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Hi all,

Any new start dates rolled out for 2020 for DEP’s?
I’ve been in the hold pool since June this year. Wonder when they’ll start the 2020 training!

boeing89

18th Oct 2019 13:22

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Originally Posted by Morris Ogg (Post 10597530)

Hi all,

Any new start dates rolled out for 2020 for DEP’s?
I’ve been in the hold pool since June this year. Wonder when they’ll start the 2020 training!

I’m in the same boat as you Morris Ogg. Been in the hold pool since May...previously told to expect a start in Jan-Feb but not sure if that still holds true. Fingers crossed though!

Jock Trapped

18th Oct 2019 13:38

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Originally Posted by boeing89 (Post 10597554)

I’m in the same boat as you Morris Ogg. Been in the hold pool since May...previously told to expect a start in Jan-Feb but not sure if that still holds true. Fingers crossed though!

Same here, it’s all gone very quiet. Wondering if TCX, Brexit, IA all have a bearing on 2020 requirements?

122.85

18th Oct 2019 13:57

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Originally Posted by kookiesandkreme (Post 10597450)

Hi, I’m thinking about applying when they next open up, but am only fussed about long haul, is it unheard of for someone who isn’t able to unfreeze to go directly to long haul? Or is it 100% required to be able to unfreeze?

If you are talking about having an fATPL and looking to go long haul at BA then I beleive the answer is no, you need an ATPL for the long haul fleet.

clvf88

18th Oct 2019 14:37

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Originally Posted by kookiesandkreme (Post 10597450)

ATPL required, due requirement for FOs to become acting PIC when in-flight rest facilities are in use.

VinRouge

18th Oct 2019 15:05

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Originally Posted by clvf88 (Post 10597591)

ATPL required, due requirement for FOs to become acting PIC when in-flight rest facilities are in use.

unless you have the hours and just need the type rating to unlock the licence.

corporaljones

18th Oct 2019 15:38

Given what’s happened recently and how the workforce has been treated im amazed anyone is still actually considering the move

clvf88

18th Oct 2019 15:39

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Originally Posted by VinRouge (Post 10597616)

unless you have the hours and just need the type rating to unlock the licence.

Very true. I know people who have done the ATPL check items as part of their initial LST and then applied for the licence. What I should have said is you need an ATPL, or have all required hours to apply for one.

Jock Trapped

18th Oct 2019 16:02

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Originally Posted by corporaljones (Post 10597638)

Given what’s happened recently and how the workforce has been treated im amazed anyone is still actually considering the move

I take your point, but for those of us having gone through the long process that is BA recruitment, presumably because what may be on offer is still better than where we are, it’d be nice to have some idea of what may be available instead of just treading water waiting to drown. Perhaps for some the future hinges on what fleet (SH/LH) is offered, but would be nice to know.

corporaljones

18th Oct 2019 16:09

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Originally Posted by Jock Trapped (Post 10597653)

yeh fair enough, all the best and I genuinely hope it works for you 👍

Phantom4

18th Oct 2019 16:39

Ten years ago the hold pool was drained due financial crisis knock on and swimmers had to reapply two years later if they felt the need.
i don’t think that will repeat and 2020 courses will be available and those in hold pool dovetailed in to courses where required.
Six 787 and further seven 350s to be delivered by end 2020.
Good luck

Percula

18th Oct 2019 19:37

I've been swimming since April. Still expecting a Q1 2020 start.

Biggles88

18th Oct 2019 20:13

Same, been swimming since March. Last told a start date Jan/Feb and would be told Sep/poss Oct. It’s all gone very quite recently. I think the T’cook situation is likely to have a big impact on our start dates.

boeing89

18th Oct 2019 21:40

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Originally Posted by Biggles88 (Post 10597889)

Any idea whether BA have actually taken on guys/girls from Thomas Cook?

wiggy

19th Oct 2019 03:11

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Originally Posted by boeing89 (Post 10597953)

Any idea whether BA have actually taken on guys/girls from Thomas Cook?

If you mean "taken on," as putting through interview/selection - don't know...if you mean "taken on" as in actually working for BA, I'd suggest very strongly that the answer is no.

Reason being in as some of you will find out BA very works very very much by "process" and personally, IMVHO, I can't see BA side stepping the whole current recruiting system and bypassing those in the DEP hold pool to get ex Thomas Cook pilots on-line...but that's just my take on it..

I think UK/world economic factors are going to have a much bigger effect on uptake from the hold pool than the demise of Thomas Cook.

wiggy

19th Oct 2019 09:40

Thanks for the update.

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