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JB007 17th Aug 2014 07:52


with a different calibre of people.
Approaching my 26th year in UK airlines...totally agree with FANS!

WHYEYEMAN 17th Aug 2014 14:40

Yes, young people these days. Tut tut tut. It was different in my day you know! Bloody first officers.......Yawn.

If you wanted multiple employee share schemes, you should have joined Easyjet!

ManUtd1999 18th Aug 2014 14:34


Seems several years down the road BA have been told by someone in IAG that the shares are not going to be made available...in other words BA management made a promise they couldn't keep. Cash may now be offered by way of compensation but details/amounts are yet to be confirmed:
I certainly wouldn't be accepting any sort of compensation without a fight. By definition, this "profit sharing" scheme only applies when the airline is in a good financial position. Maybe if this agreement is dropped pilots can have a pay rise to make up for their side of the bargain?

Bengerman 18th Aug 2014 20:08


It is a legacy of Dan Air, but that's over 20 years ago.
This is not the case.

In truth it is the legacy of Bob Ayling and a continuous loop of grey suited accountants who now run everything.

kirungi1 20th Aug 2014 10:04

Invitation for more applicants, re-opened today! :ok:

Wonderful things happen at BA, don't they?

Threethirty 20th Aug 2014 12:34

I just checked the DEP recruitment page, it says it's closed?

Widebdy 20th Aug 2014 12:44

Makes sense for BA to reopen if Monarch is on its knees.

wiggy 20th Aug 2014 13:04


Makes sense for BA to reopen if Monarch is on its knees.
BA don't think like that..and in any event AFAIK the recruitment for DEPs has not reopened.

mark_eisner 20th Aug 2014 13:14

Hasn't it?

Jet Set Willie 20th Aug 2014 14:01

Still need a bus rating though :(

wiggy 20th Aug 2014 14:34

mark e

Apologies, certainly wasn't showing when I looked a little while back...I'm either going to blame my browser or BA iM :E:E

mark_eisner 20th Aug 2014 15:45

A few friends couldn't find it either, the DEP page links to an old First Officer opening so you need to go in to the job search and do it manually. I was signed up for alerts and got an email this morning.

UpnDn 20th Aug 2014 16:54

Anyone know what the current starting salary is for DEP airbus? Do they still get £9 per hour flying pay as pilotjobsnetwork says, I understand the ex bmi guys didn't get this flying pay so is that now the norm for all joiners? Otherwise, how much does this work out annually?

Also, anyone know a realistic time to command?

no sponsor 20th Aug 2014 19:44

So, not enough applicants last time around. Now only 200hrs on the Airbus required...

Perhaps the next round will recruit non typed individuals?

Anyway, interesting to see BA was not flooded with applicants.

Tay Cough 20th Aug 2014 22:05

It used to be the case that guys and gals would flock in from RYR and EZ. There have even been a handful going back to EZ recently believe it or not!

The fact is that if you are close to a command at either of the above (or elsewhere for that matter), all of a sudden it isn't a cut and dried decision to head for BA anymore, especially as there is currently no direct entry onto longhaul. 34 pay points for new joiners (34 being the same as the old 24), the BARP pension (middle of the road compared to the competition, by all accounts) and a long time to either RHS longhaul or LHS (any) make it a less attractive proposition than it used to be.

You will do at least five years on shorthaul at LHR (do your research carefully as to what that actually means in terms of lifestyle. :=) before you are able to bid to move to longhaul RHS. Even then you need the seniority, which you may or may not have (research the demography). A shorthaul command will traditionally occur at some point after longhaul. Currently this is running at nearly fifteen years for a LGW command, slightly more for LHR (this does vary a little to be fair). Longhaul commands take significantly longer.

Welcome aboard but for Pete's sake do your research properly.

Zippy Monster 21st Aug 2014 07:13

A few of my colleagues applied. They are all well-trained, highly-motivated, enthusiastic, knowledgeable and generally excellent all-round operators and thoroughly nice people. All with plenty of Airbus experience at a reputable airline. Not one of them got in this time around.

It does make you wonder what the recruitment team are looking for.

wiggy 21st Aug 2014 07:17

Just to add to Tay Cough's excellent precis:

We are being made increasingly aware that the shots regarding T&Cs are being called in Madrid, not Harmondsworth......it is very difficult to see what life at BA will be like next year, let alone in 5 years time (IMHO especially in Short Haul)

As Tay said for Pete's sake do your research but be aware you are very much rolling the dice.

eaglesnest1972 25th Aug 2014 07:20

Hi guys, i'll go straight to the point.

South european. 40yrs (i've been in the military for 18yrs)
EASA FATPL
A320/A330 both current
ICAO level 6
EASA class 1 with no restrictions

800hrs TT - 300+hrs on the A320

Currently employed by possibly the worst airline in the world and flying the 320 (transitioning to the 330).
Do i have any chance with BA?
I really don't understand what they're looking for.

Thanks in advance folks.

mark_eisner 25th Aug 2014 11:27

You technically meet their requirements for the DEP recruitment closing on 2nd September as long as you have the right to work in the UK.

Your guess is as good as anyone else's on what they are actually looking for...

eaglesnest1972 25th Aug 2014 11:56

Hi mate,

Thanks for your reply.
Yes, i hold an EU passport so i am entitled to live and work in UK too.
Honestly speaking my concern is about my age and my grand total flight time.

I applied, we'll see.

Good luck to everyone, wish you all the best.


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