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time2leave 30th Aug 2014 09:52

Maybe
 
Unless you had to leave at your exit date to enter the Hold Pool and cannot now apply as you are no longer serving because you left to enter the Hold Pool

wiggy 30th Aug 2014 10:00


Nothing much changed then, in half a century of, so called, selection. In 1964,
Meanwhile......For the benefit of younger readers a bit of context: In 1964 I was a spotter (who wasn't yet old enough to have spots) at the airport formerly known as Ringway. BOAC were flying the likes of Viscounts and BOAC had 707's, ( I think, I must check my spotters logs).

Since then I've been through one of the iterations of the BA selection process, served over a quarter of a century in BA, and survived routine checks, conversion and command upgrades and am now past the former compulsory retirement age of 55. Like the vast vast majority of my colleagues in BA I have never been in a lodge, indulged in funny handshakes or gone around with a trouser leg rolled up (well, not when sober). As far as I'm aware not being "in the club" hasn't done any lasting harm.

In other words whilst some of the stories about BA selection process "back in the day" are interesting, they are no resemblance to the modern HR driven, computer scored, pier reviewed sausage machine.

wiggy 30th Aug 2014 10:01


Nothing much changed then, in half a century of, so called, selection. In 1964,
Meanwhile, and if I may, a bit of balance, and for the benefit of younger readers a bit of context: In 1964 I was a spotter (who wasn't yet old enough to have spots) at the airport formerly known as Ringway. BEA were flying the likes of Viscounts and BOAC had 707's, ( I think, I must check my spotters logs).

Since then I've been through one of the iterations of the BA selection process, served over a quarter of a century in BA, and survived routine checks, conversion and command upgrades and am now past the former compulsory retirement age of 55. Like the vast vast majority of my colleagues in BA I have never been in a lodge, indulged in funny handshakes or gone around with a trouser leg rolled up (well, not when sober). As far as I'm aware not being "in the club" hasn't done any lasting harm.

In other words whilst some of the stories about BA selection process "back in the day" are interesting, and if as described a downright disgrace, they bare no resemblance to the modern HR driven, computer scored, peer reviewed sausage machine.

gatbusdriver 30th Aug 2014 10:45

Hey wiggy,

Must be getting on a bit now........you've told us that story already!

eaglesnest1972 30th Aug 2014 10:50

Anyone got any news from BA? (for those who applied).
Deadline is approaching.

kirungi1 30th Aug 2014 13:18

GBD
 
Let us slow down things a bit and analyse #545 carefully. There is more than meets the eye in that post. You have to be a lateral thinker to arrive at wiggy's vantage point. Call it his wisdom for such great posts but I would accept and agree that it is this guy's dunamis at play.

Thanks wiggy :)

Harry palmer 30th Aug 2014 18:23

Any chances for us Non Airbus Rated civilians?

bex88 30th Aug 2014 18:53

I don't speak for the company but with the new fleets coming on line and the large training demand on the airbus fleet I think they will want to minimise the strain on the training resource. Hence the type rating requirement. Perhaps if pilots can't be found requirements will relax further

wiggy 31st Aug 2014 07:02


Hey wiggy,

Must be getting on a bit now........you've told us that story already!
Yeah sorry, I know it doesn't bring anything to the debate but I'm just getting a bit tired of some who seem to see Freemason's in every sim /interview/every interaction they've had with "big bad BA".......

You'd almost think they were trying to put folks off applying ;)

BOAC 31st Aug 2014 07:44


Originally Posted by wiggy
Yeah sorry, I know it doesn't bring anything to the debate

- I think you missed the humour there?

Hey wiggy,

Must be getting on a bit now........you've told us that story already!
We'll put it down to old age.............

Landflap 31st Aug 2014 08:11

Oh leave him alone. He's Irish...........................to be sure to be sure !

777X 31st Aug 2014 14:10

BA Direct Entry Pilot.
 
Are there people out there seriously holding out for the opportunity to enter the hold pool a third time?

I heard of non-type rated folk last time who got hired with no more than a day or so in the hold pool. When it comes to recruitment it definitely helps to know people inside...

Megaton 31st Aug 2014 14:39


When it comes to recruitment it definitely helps to know people inside..
That is absolute nonsense. Good mate of mine with absolutely impeccable background and type-rated didn't get in first time despite having met all the right people. He fluffed the interview so was rejected. Two/three years later he re-applied and passed.

There are many accusations you can level at BA recruitment but they are painfully fair.

RHS 31st Aug 2014 14:51

Widebody must be tough being a boeing guy right now. Almost as bad as having a turboprop type rating! ;)

Let's hope for non TR soon.

Flyer2007 31st Aug 2014 14:56

Either way, BA opening recruitment for Airbus rated Pilots with 500hrs, then 200hrs and now non rated Military experience is positive news. Here's hoping non rated recruitment isn't too far off. There are so many skilled and experienced Pilots at the likes of Flybe, Loganair and Eastern Airways that have been subject to limited opportunities in recent years. Here's hoping a wide range of people are able to apply should non rated recruitment open.

Does anyone have an idea why the 500hrs requirement was lowered? Less applications than expected, or those that did not up to the BA standard?

Superpilot 31st Aug 2014 15:12

I am yet to hear of a single person in my extended circle of friends/friends of friends who has made it (I'm talking in the region of 15 candidates). Most failed at the initial assessment stage (like me). BA are being fussy gits as usual, no wonder they had to extend the net! Good opportunity for others though.

Megaton 31st Aug 2014 17:03

BA has happily soaked up pilots from the likes of FlyBE in the past and their entrance minimums drift up and down according to supply and demand. It is likely that BA will be less attractive to a senior EasyJet FO these days who is perhaps not far from promotion so expect the entrance requirements to drop as experienced FOs choose to stay where they are.

Megaton 31st Aug 2014 19:11


Yet we still have Easyjet captains joining the bottoms of our list?

Perhaps, but the last ex-EasyJet captain I spoke to wasn't sure he'd made the right choice and can't say I blame him.

bex88 1st Sep 2014 07:16

I person I know was told he was successful and he politely turned it down to stay as a orange SFO. In short BA has competition from other airlines who offer better pay due to shorter times to command. It's no longer the clear cut decision it once was

eaglesnest1972 1st Sep 2014 09:34

Seriously? :ooh:
I thought BA was the dream of every single UK pilot, i am serious.
It is still for me, and i am not British.
Anyone got any reply from BA? Today is the last day to apply for DEP (rated).


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