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jimboy473 19th Jan 2016 22:38


Originally Posted by VeroFlyer (Post 9242875)
787 Course April. Currently 737 rated, 4000 TTL, background regional TP and SH flying. Very Excited to get started!

My main advice for getting through the process is be prepared for every stage and put the work in. It's worth it in the end. Good luck to all!

How long from confirmation of hold pool to hearing - currently waiting at the moment!

P0tt3r 20th Jan 2016 08:01


Originally Posted by jimboy473 (Post 9242966)
How long from confirmation of hold pool to hearing - currently waiting at the moment!

I think that varies a bit depending on the positions they are filling at the time, and your experience.

From what others have told me, A couple of months generally for an offer for 787/777/320 at the moment. Guess that could change either way though.

For me it was only 48hrs. They needed to fill a slot quickly, and I matched the requirements.

jimboy473 20th Jan 2016 08:30


Originally Posted by P0tt3r (Post 9243227)
For me it was only 48hrs. They needed to fill a slot quickly, and I matched the requirements.

Good man - congratulations, applied through the DEP longhaul, did the sim on the 5th of Jan and got the confirmation last week but no other information apart from that! When's your start date?

VeroFlyer 20th Jan 2016 08:48

2 weeks for me from hold pool to offer. But yes this varies on your experience and notice period available.

P0tt3r 20th Jan 2016 08:55


Originally Posted by VeroFlyer (Post 9243275)
2 weeks for me from hold pool to offer. But yes this varies on your experience and notice period available.

Very good point re notice period being a factor. Mine was 3 months, but people with less might be able to take places at short notice I guess.

nrn 20th Jan 2016 14:42

I completely skipped the pool. Sim till startdate 93 days. Notice period was 90 days..

jimboy473 20th Jan 2016 15:03


Originally Posted by nrn (Post 9243622)
I completely skipped the pool. Sim till startdate 93 days. Notice period was 90 days..

When did you do your sim?! This is insane - what do they want you on?

P0tt3r 20th Jan 2016 16:12


Originally Posted by jimboy473 (Post 9243255)
Good man - congratulations, applied through the DEP longhaul, did the sim on the 5th of Jan and got the confirmation last week but no other information apart from that! When's your start date?

Cheers. I passed mid December. Start end of March. 380.

DunlopDanglerUK 20th Jan 2016 17:36

Entered the pool in Oct, offered 777 last week starting April. Looks like things are starting to move quickly for everyone waiting. Good luck everyone.

nrn 20th Jan 2016 18:21

Sim in June somewhere, started in September on the 787

OttoMatic 21st Jan 2016 11:22

Excuse my ignorance and possibly misdirected hope in this matter, but it seems BA are still very much desperate for pilots, although now it's mostly for long haul. What's to stop them from taking the boys and girls with less than the 1000 hours of jet (possibly 0 hours jet :rolleyes:) that are already in the hold pool for LH rather than SH? I don't see anything legality wise, so is there a lot of extra training involved to comply with regulations or is this just BA's own made up limit that they technically could change if they so wished?

Thanks for any help clearing this up :ok:

Chief Brody 21st Jan 2016 14:05

Otto

You make an interesting point. And not having anything to do for 15 minutes here's my thoughts - it comes with a major BS warning !!

I initially thought it was an insurance thing .... ie the insurance company gives BA a preferred rate based on prescribed experience levels. But I've flown with many skippers who went direct onto 'the classic' strait out of the RAF (fast jet) and also some from ATRs at CityFlyer.

Now of course the tornado is a jet but given the total lack of handling similarities with it and a heavy pax jet it's hard to see how these guys were deemed any more proficient than say a current Dash8 pilot (for example) - yet sure enough there are dozens or Harrier and Tornado guys who back in the mid 90s lef the service and went straight onto the 747-2. The Cityflyer turboprop guys and gals are a rarer breed but it did happen and hence it proves its sure as hell not insurmountable. In fact IMHO having flown private, regional, short, medium and LH - the turboprop regional was by far the most challenging aircraft to fly and I venture to say I would have taken to longhaul (380) like a duck to water.

Now in both cases above (RAF & Cityflyer et al) circuit training in some very heavy tin was done and thats currently not part of the BA training dept zeitgeist.

Any thoughts (very succinctly) on what Virgin will do with their cadet cruise-pilots. X years down the line they're gonna be ready for the 'upgrade' and either have to do circuits or be farmed out for a year or two a bit like Thomas Cook did to Flybe.

Blue skies to all

CB

P0tt3r 21st Jan 2016 14:19

I would suggest that with sub-2000hrs, going into an environment where you'll land infrequently, sometimes to the point of being near to going out of recency, would do you no favours at all. Just an opinion, and not linked to anyone's policy.

LlamaFarmer 21st Jan 2016 17:34


Originally Posted by P0tt3r (Post 9244656)
I would suggest that with sub-2000hrs, going into an environment where you'll land infrequently, sometimes to the point of being near to going out of recency, would do you no favours at all. Just an opinion, and not linked to anyone's policy.


I have to agree. Family friend on LH did only 11 landings in a 6 month period last year. 2 were CAT II/III autoland, so only 9 manual landings.


Compare that to shorthaul where you might get 5-10 a week rather than 2 a month

OttoMatic 21st Jan 2016 18:54

Thanks for the replies, and I would very much agree with you guys on recency and so forth. That would explain the 2000 hour demand with which I agree, it's more the jet part of it that I would dare to suggest isn't absolutely necessary. Funnily enough I would actually prefer SH to start with and then see what happens, but I'd rather get in at all and straight in on LH than to be timed out in the pool just for being a TP:er... :}

bucket_and_spade 21st Jan 2016 18:58

The other thing to remember is that on LH you'll be acting PIC when the skipper's in the bunk so there are also experience requirements related to that.

LlamaFarmer 21st Jan 2016 20:18


Originally Posted by bucket_and_spade (Post 9244946)
The other thing to remember is that on LH you'll be acting PIC when the skipper's in the bunk so there are also experience requirements related to that.

what about when skipper goes for a piss on SH

NukeHunt 21st Jan 2016 21:58

Anyone prepared to share any recent sim feedback as they've now changed from the 747 to the 757?

Nibber 22nd Jan 2016 00:23

Nothing seems to have changed apart from the sim itself. The best tip I can give is to buy 757 Professional for X-Plane. It was identical to the real thing except for the speed tape was missing. Even the power settings worked. Helped me feel much more relaxed knowing where everything was. Got into the hold pool just before Christmas.

wiggy 22nd Jan 2016 05:21


The other thing to remember is that on LH you'll be acting PIC when the skipper's in the bunk so there are also experience requirements related to that.
Yep.


what about when skipper goes for a piss on SH
:E Well...unless he/she's got a rather large bladder or serious GI problems they aren't likely to be off the flight deck for several hours.......


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