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MaxShr 21st Jun 2014 21:14

I received an email last week inviting me to Day 1. Not my first time applying - the old Day 1 is now spread over 2 days. Tests on Day 1. If you're successful go back on another day for an interview and the group exercise. If you're again successful you'll be called back for a sim check. Quite a frugal process and with forced draft, the potential for change in the bidline system AND SH working their socks off it really is an interesting proposition. Having said that, it's a long term career which I think will pay off as I wish to go long haul. However, it's not for everybody......

Dornier_228 22nd Jun 2014 10:43

I was invited for the 1st Day as well.
It's my 2nd attempt, last one on 2011.
Does anybody know what the 2 computer tests consist of?
Good luck to everyone...

nintendojet320 23rd Jun 2014 01:05

Out of curiosity, the 2 guys who have been re-invited for interviews, whats your experience like, TT? 320hrs? RHS/LHS?

wiggy 23rd Jun 2014 07:39

MaxShr
 

the potential for change in the bidline system AND SH working their socks off it really is an interesting proposition.
Given the firestorm that is raging elsewhere (i.e. BALPA forum and the in house BA forum) over the definite but supposedly only temporary changes made to Bidline to cover August's work I'd say that's an something of an understatement....

Good luck with the assessment but given the state of flux with Bidline at the moment I'd recommend that any successful applicants have a very critical and careful look at what BA's rostering system looks like at the end of this summer before signing on the line - especially if you value having more than a weeks notice of your days off early in a month and/or have ongoing family commitments such as childcare (be aware, if you are not, that generally under current Bidline there isn't an underlying pattern of days on/days off). Under the temporary (?) arrangements announced last week we won't know our confirmed August rosters until 25th July at the earliest, so this patch up of Bidline is a bit of a horror story for anyone who has made plans or is trying to make plans for activities outside work.


it's a long term career which I think will pay off as I wish to go long haul.
Fair enough, but remember if you are successful in getting into BA you will almost certainly be "serving time" :E in short haul for quite a while because it takes a long time to dig that tunnel that allows you to escape to long haul, if that's what you want (i.e. years at least, decade plus probably). Regardless on where you plan on ending up you really do need to seriously consider the life style issues and problems associated with BA short haul before making any decisions. BTW to give you some idea here's a video of a BA short haul pilot finally making the transition to a long haul fleet -

I know regardless of what I say successful applicant will sign on the line regardless, I'd probably do the same....but please don't pop up on the forums in a year or two under another name complaining that rostering was better at Easyair or Ryanjet.....you've been given a heads up....

wiggy 23rd Jun 2014 08:33

Supposed to be hats on in public, though many hats do seem to go mssing and uniform stores ( another long story) are very slow at getting replacements:sad:...


I hate head-wear! (out-dated, pointless nonsense that I can assure you customers belonging to the 21st century don't give a damn about).
Maybe, some customer surveys seem to say otherwise and I believe following recent changes hats are back "in" at at least one other major UK airline.

Must admit being ex-Mil the hats are fine by me, especially as it hides my grey hair... and it's very a useful place for storing ID, keys, rank slides, pens et al when down route......

overstress 23rd Jun 2014 13:55


is the wearing of a hat absolutely mandatory
Yes. As wiggy says, customers like it. Symbol of authority.. we fly to nations where hat wearing for officials is de rigeur! We also wear uniform in the simulator.
No sick notes for that either.


out-dated, pointless nonsense that I can assure you customers belonging to the 21st century don't give a damn about
Use that line in the interview, then you won't have to worry about wearing a BA hat...

JW411 23rd Jun 2014 15:27

Do you really wear uniform in the simulator? How very quaint.

JW411 23rd Jun 2014 16:12

In my last company (before I retired) we had a chief pilot who was a bit of a stickler about the wearing of hats. Imagine his chagrin when the management introduced a new uniform and decided that hats would not be worn nor would they be issued. I don't think he ever totally recovered from the shock. Mind you, as someone has already said, the hat was a useful receptacle for holding your car keys, ID Card etc etc on a layover.

JW411 23rd Jun 2014 16:31

Incidentally, I haven't seen or worn a uniform in the simulator since I left Mrs Windsor's employ in 1978 (and I have spent thousands of hours in the box - usually in the back examining). Nor have I seen any other airlines wearing uniform in the simulator except that I have a very vague memory of seeing a Gulfair crew coming out of the box in Crawley in uniform about 30 years ago. It would be interesting to hear of which other airlines wear uniform in the sim.

Superpilot 23rd Jun 2014 17:47

Out of interest when did you guys click the submit button? I did mine on the first Sunday (on the 3rd day), no news yet.

Plastic787 23rd Jun 2014 17:53

Superpilot, I submitted mine in the morning on the same Sunday as you. I wouldn't read anything into this necessarily as there's nothing to say they're working on these applications sequentially.

Blighty Pilot 23rd Jun 2014 17:59

As you tick boxes on the application, type rating, disabled, M/F etc etc you earn points. If you're registered disabled you earn 10000 points and are eligible for an interview - some European ruling thing!! So the higher the points the closer to the top of the pile you are. The recruiter then goes into the application and reads through your essay answer and grades them is several piles: Suitable for BA, Review, Reject.
Only after all these filters have been applied you'll get your email to invite or PFO. No news is either good news or a PFO will follow in due course. The date you applied will have NO relevance!

binsleepen 23rd Jun 2014 21:04

If you look back through the old DEP thread some of the questions were answered on there.

As I understand it applications are put into 3 piles. 1) definitely yes, 2) definitely no, and 3) maybe. The 1's will get a quick invite to interview, the 2's a quick PFO and the 3's will be reassessed after all the 1's have been invited and the numbers still required looked at. i.e BA may want to interview 10 applicants for every post available. If they get the numbers with all 1's then the 3's will be PFO'd. If they don't have enough 1's then the best 3's will get an invite.

As far as interview slots go, more are constantly added. There will be enough slots for those invited. Keep checking the web site.

Gutter Airways 23rd Jun 2014 22:23

When your application is reviewed, do they go through your previous applications/essay answers also, or base it on your current application only?

kirungi1 24th Jun 2014 06:23

Gutter Airways

I would like to think it would be based on your current application as your skills and experience might have changed :ugh:

Blighty Pilot 24th Jun 2014 07:39

All done on current application. The only time they MIGHT consider a previous application is if you were in the hold pool.
Its all part of BA's clean sheet, treat everyone the same policy.

billybuds 24th Jun 2014 08:03

I logged on within 30 mins of getting the invite yesterday morning and there weren't any slots. I'm guessing it is just a case of constantly checking?

kirungi1 24th Jun 2014 08:15

billybuds

Yes, I presume; binsleepen has some fine words on this in #318.

a-ricky-town 24th Jun 2014 15:47

Does the status of the application change prior to receiving an email from BA? Mine still says "submitted". I sent my CV on June 6th.

a-ricky-town 24th Jun 2014 21:08

Received the invitation this evening! :)


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