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whitepark109 5th Jul 2019 09:56


Originally Posted by Daddy Fantastic (Post 10510182)
Do new hire unrated FO's still have to pay for their own type rating or can they be bonded now?

I think they still have to pay upfront, unless it has changed very recently.

dirk85 5th Jul 2019 19:15

It’s going to take time, but easyJet is expanding their training capability with a dozen of brand new sims plus many more in option, and the idea is to take in house the training also for initials in the future, and as a consequence also charge less the rating for new hires.

CaptainProp 7th Jul 2019 20:47


Originally Posted by VJW (Post 10510139)


Would you be able to elaborate on where this information was gleaned?

Not really, but high enough for me to post it here with a relatively high level of confidence.

CP

VJW 10th Jul 2019 22:01


Originally Posted by CaptainProp (Post 10510055)
There should be news coming about DEC movement already this summer.

CP

That news came out today....2019 courses full and no Captain jobs in UK in 2020.....

Yupi 11th Jul 2019 11:28

I am in the hold pool for DEC. Just got advised they are looking for Porto DEC only at the moment. I called and was not given ANY information about other bases or position from recruiting. I am looking for a Lisbon position. Does anyone who actually works at EZ have any intel about base staffing or growth? Also, I was not able to get a detailed answer of how transfers to Lisbon work...can anyone comment if you can put in a transfer on day one and if there is a long list of people wanting to transfer?
Also, anyone from EZ in Porto who can tell me how likely it is to get 5 on/4 off or how it get assigned as well as part time in the winter?

I have a deadline to make a decision and I do not know anyone in the company to get the information from and unfortunately recruiting does not have the kind of information I need to make a decision. Please help anyone!

Almag 15th Jul 2019 15:57


Originally Posted by Ziller85 (Post 10468479)
Hey Guys,

does anyone know the need of type rated Captains for TXL?! There where some last assessments in April for that....

Cheers

Assessments in April for TXL? That's mighty strange, as I was already told mid January by EZY recruitment before the start of the assessment during presentation that the base that I had applied for Berlin, was no longer available and neither were UK bases and Swiss contract. The only base, EZY recruitment told us, that was still available for DEC at that time was Portugal, can't remember if it was just OPO or also LIS. At the same time the recruitment website was changed and Berlin, UK and Swiss contract removed from DEC list, and only still open to apply for DEC Portugal base. They checked willingness for Portugal base on individual basis and I kindly declined at the time, and got put in the Talent Hold Pool as a result, due no more vacancies in Berlin.

Update from the Talent Pool received last week and again, only OPO available from beginning of 2020 and 1 week to decide... ANY info on OPO base would be highly appreciated.
1) Approximate salary after tax for a DEC with family
2) If it is possible to receive Non-Habitual Resident status as an easyJet Captain under the Portuguese tax laws, coming form outside EU (more than 10 years)
3) Living in Porto, as it seems to be a beautiful historic city
4) And why it is so unpopular that EZY can't seem to crew it, even after the revised salary package.....

Thanks in advance!

LHS320 15th Jul 2019 19:09

Easy policy OPO not available to British nationals, because of Brexit. Hence vacancies being carried.
LHS320

737 Jockey 15th Jul 2019 19:24


Originally Posted by LHS320 (Post 10519363)
Easy policy OPO not available to British nationals, because of Brexit. Hence vacancies being carried.
LHS320

Does that not contravene some sort of employment law? Last time I heard, UK is still part of the EU and the freedom of movement rules apply?

dirk85 15th Jul 2019 20:31


Originally Posted by 737 Jockey (Post 10519368)


Does that not contravene some sort of employment law? Last time I heard, UK is still part of the EU and the freedom of movement rules apply?

They are never going to officially admit it, not till Brexit, if ever.

In the meantime, from company communication, Direct Entry Captain requirements for S20 have not yet been fully accessed, they are working through internal command upgrade candidates so presently are unable to say precisely on S20 DEC requirements.

Busdriver01 15th Jul 2019 20:34


Originally Posted by 737 Jockey (Post 10519368)


Does that not contravene some sort of employment law? Last time I heard, UK is still part of the EU and the freedom of movement rules apply?

eJ allocate base placements based on a forecast or actual requirement in that base, for that rank. They don’t have to offer anyone any particular base and that’s part of the contract.

I experienced this first hand when I requested to do a season in PMI. I was told that I couldn’t apply because the planned start date was about a week after the original date for brexit, and they couldn’t plan a whole summer roster on the assumption I’d be allowed to move because if we’d had a hard brexit I may not have been able to then move to Spain, leaving them short. A kick in the teeth when brexit was delayed but that’s life, sadly.

Daily Dalaman Dave 15th Jul 2019 21:03


Originally Posted by VJW (Post 10515418)


That news came out today....2019 courses full and no Captain jobs in UK in 2020.....

Are you referring to courses for DECs or courses in general, i.e do you anticipate FO recruitment reopening for TRd guys?

Cheers

Almag 17th Jul 2019 15:34


Originally Posted by LHS320 (Post 10519363)
Easy policy OPO not available to British nationals, because of Brexit. Hence vacancies being carried.
LHS320

Interesting statement LHS320, as they haven't been able to properly crew this base since it was first announced, well before the Brexit vote. Even then the Brits and other nationalities didn't seem to be interested. I wonder what is going to happen with all the Brits stationed in mainland Europe and all the other European nationalities remaining in the UK in case of a no-deal Brexit.

From the information I managed to gather it looks like the main reason is the very high taxation and Net salary after Tax, as the salary before tax is not that bad. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Any information from OPO and LIS based Captains is highly appreciated, as I'm enthusiastic about living in Porto but I need more information regarding the approximate salary after Tax. Is 7500 EURO a/month after Tax and Social Contributions achievable for a married Captain, with 2 school going children?

Regards.

dirk85 17th Jul 2019 16:32


Originally Posted by Almag (Post 10520939)
Interesting statement LHS320, as they haven't been able to properly crew this base since it was first announced, well before the Brexit vote. Even then the Brits and other nationalities didn't seem to be interested. I wonder what is going to happen with all the Brits stationed in mainland Europe and all the other European nationalities remaining in the UK in case of a no-deal Brexit.

From the information I managed to gather it looks like the main reason is the very high taxation and Net salary after Tax, as the salary before tax is not that bad. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Any information from OPO and LIS based Captains is highly appreciated, as I'm enthusiastic about living in Porto but I need more information regarding the approximate salary after Tax. Is 7500 EURO a/month after Tax and Social Contributions achievable for a married Captain, with 2 school going children?

Regards.

Maybe not on the first year, but from the 2nd year, with the loyalty bonus kicking in you are not far from that money with a family, with the on target company performance bonus. Definitely after 5 years, with the second step of the loyalty bonus you should be there.
You get 14 salaries per year, but over 12 the numbers quoted are roughly correct.
I am not based there, but that’s what I heard from collegues.

LockheedTristar 9th Aug 2019 13:47

I was invited to the selection process.
Anyone can tell me the net salary per month? PORTO, Non rated FO, married and 1 kid.

Thanks

Ziller85 9th Aug 2019 13:52


Originally Posted by LockheedTristar (Post 10540914)
I was invited to the selection process.
Anyone can tell me the net salary per month? PORTO, Non rated, married and 1 kid.

Thanks


have you been invited out of the talent pool for DEC‘s?

Is there anyone who got further infos to the courses starting beginning of 20?

LockheedTristar 9th Aug 2019 13:58


Originally Posted by Ziller85 (Post 10540919)



have you been invited out of the talent pool for DEC‘s?

Is there anyone who got further infos to the courses starting beginning of 20?

No. I've just completed the online assessment for NON RATED FO and invited to attend easyJet assessment.




Ziller85 10th Aug 2019 06:46

Is there anyone out of the talent pool for DECs that got further infos regarding the OPO course?

dirk85 4th Sep 2019 13:35

At the moment there are no DECs planned for next financial year.
Some of the assessments might be to build a holding pool.

Things in easyJet can change very quickly though.

chonchon_c160 10th Sep 2019 16:12

Hello !

I would like to know the details about the type rating in CAE Gatwick.
What about hotel and food? Where and which is the hotel?
I know that the salary is the basic only, but I heard that if you are based out of London, you have some overnight allowance. Is it still in force?

Does easy provide transportation to go there?

Thanks

TheAirMission 10th Sep 2019 16:35


Originally Posted by chonchon_c160 (Post 10566627)
What about hotel and food? Where and which is the hotel?

As far as I am aware it's at yourself who sorts out and pays


Originally Posted by chonchon_c160 (Post 10566627)
Does easy provide transportation to go there?

No


Originally Posted by chonchon_c160 (Post 10566627)

I know that the salary is the basic only, but I heard that if you are based out of London, you have some overnight allowance. Is it still in force?

if you are contracted by easyJet from day one of type rating then yes you will get nightstop allowance outside of your base

chonchon_c160 10th Sep 2019 17:04

Thank you THEAIRMISSION,

About the hotel : When I did the assment I remember that the airline briefing included an overview on the type rating conditions : basic salary and hotel. But it could have change now.
However I wanted to know if the hotel chosen by easyjet would be next to CAE building.

I will be under contract with easyjet during the TR, so I guess transport to gatwick is included.
Concerning the night stop allowance, I remember that it was mentioned during the assesment briefing. But on my contract, that is written that the nightstop allowance is not concerning the initial training....

So I dont know...

Murtoman 11th Sep 2019 10:21

I dont know about type ratings, but for OCC some time back they used Hilton in the airport and Crowne Plaza in Crawley. Transportations were all covered from day 1. I don't think you got nightstop allowance during training, but I think that you DID get something for the weekends spent in UK. Better to ask the company though :)

-M

monkey.tennis 11th Sep 2019 18:05

If you are a Direct entry pilot you will have your accommodation paid for (bed and breakfast) and you will get £40 a night in allowances. You will be paid from day 1 of the type rating.

limahotel 21st Sep 2019 19:23

CPT joining Easy as FO
 
Hi,

as a captain, does anyone have an idea how long would one have to wait for an upgrade if joing as an FO (either OPO or PMI)?

Thanks

Denti 21st Sep 2019 20:04


Originally Posted by limahotel (Post 10575561)
Hi,
as a captain, does anyone have an idea how long would one have to wait for an upgrade if joing as an FO (either OPO or PMI)?

Thanks

Same as any other FO. After six months in the company you can apply for the command process. The process takes about two to three years and you compete against young cadets who know the procedures and manuals pretty much by heart. Additionally the numbers of upgrades has decreased considerably, from the usual 180 to 200 a winter to only 60 for this one, until now.

UberPilot 22nd Sep 2019 05:17


Originally Posted by limahotel (Post 10575561)
Hi,

as a captain, does anyone have an idea how long would one have to wait for an upgrade if joing as an FO (either OPO or PMI)?

Thanks

PMI has a huge internal waiting list for transfers and upgrades already, so that would take many years to upgrade into. OPO on the other hand is not popular at all. At present, the key factor in determining the length of time that it takes to complete the upgrade is your base choice. So realistically, if one were to opt for a Portuguese base it could be completed In under 18 months if the company need remained. However, as things have started to slow down people have realized that a Portuguese command is better than nothing so I would expect there to be a significant wait for any DE FO joining now. Also it’s worth remembering that eJ took on hundreds of ex-Air Berlin FOs with up to 15 years experience, so there are already a significant number of guys in the process “ready to go” as soon as courses become available in addition to the usual cadet-to-captain flow.

bigbangx2 22nd Sep 2019 06:30

Waiting time talent pool DEFO OPO
 
Hi guys!
Just wondering how long it will take to have an offer? I am currently in the talent pool NTR DEC FO, applied for OPO, preferences CDG LGW STH.
I read above that OPO is not a very famous base. However I think that better be in the company with a not so good base than being out and waiting a potential entry... So if any opportunity at OPO better accepting it, IMHO.
In that case and knowing about the situation do you know how long will it be to have the opportunity for an internal change from OPO to the preferences listed above?
Lots of questions from a newbie sorry about that😉
See ya in the air!
​​​​M.

dirk85 22nd Sep 2019 08:40

Portugal is becoming/has become very popular due to the new tax breaks available for pilots, quite a few easy pilots are moving into those waiting lists.
Little to no chances for DECs to get it, a bit more for FOs.

bigbangx2 22nd Sep 2019 11:29

Thanks for your answer.
Honestly I do not care about any bases. Preferences are preferences the most important thing for me is being inside of the company ASAP. That's why I was wondering about the average time being hold in the talent pool with or without my preferences.
​​​​​​

LockheedTristar 22nd Sep 2019 14:23

Did you guys participate in the selection recently?

I participated in the beginning of September and this week I received the email informing that I passed and I'm in the pool for non rated FO. First option was Porto followed by Barcelona and Amsterdam.

Does anyone know how long (average ) a pilot stays in the pool? Of all who passed the only rated FO was the one who received a date for February 2020.

Things are weird in Europe with Eigle azur and XL both in france. The number of rated pilots that are available is large.

bigbangx2 22nd Sep 2019 18:17

Hi LockeedTristar,
This was my question as well. I went through the assessment process during early September.
I read above that the specific waiting time was IAW your results during the assessment process, but no clue about that. And honestly not sure this is happening this way.
​​​​​​

LockheedTristar 22nd Sep 2019 23:17

IAW????

what day did you go?

The 4 that passed only one was rated and he has been called to join in February.

bigbangx2 23rd Sep 2019 15:55

In accordance with.
I did the assessments the 12th of September alongside with other candidates. No news about them.
And no idea about the actual waiting time inside the pool.

tryu32 9th Oct 2019 09:39

any idea about TR cost/available bonds etc for cadets?

zen krempie 15th Oct 2019 15:34

Hey guys

Does anyone knows if they offer a bond for TR or they cooperate with some banks for loan upon contract?

Also, can you move from any european base to Swiss bases?


dirk85 15th Oct 2019 17:10


Originally Posted by zen krempie (Post 10594994)
Hey guys

Does anyone knows if they offer a bond for TR or they cooperate with some banks for loan upon contract?

Also, can you move from any european base to Swiss bases?

No agreements with banks, and no bond at the moment.

Transfers to switzerland not possible at the moment, but a new transfer protocol should be approved in a few months and that will probably change it.

Cycloptic 13th Nov 2019 22:33

Hello There!

Are there any Non Type Pilots here in the holding pool for 2020?
If so, how long have you been in the pool? And for what bases? Any idea on any Type Rating Dates?

slamdunkthefunk 17th Jan 2020 05:58

Yes, since July 2019. Looking for a London base. Not sure of dates......Anyone know of any movement this year for NTR FOs?



Originally Posted by Cycloptic (Post 10618094)
Hello There!

Are there any Non Type Pilots here in the holding pool for 2020?
If so, how long have you been in the pool? And for what bases? Any idea on any Type Rating Dates?


whitepark109 17th Jan 2020 14:11

Been in the talent pool since Feb 19 and heard nothing. Non type rated FO looking for Belfast or Northern base!

airjords1220 22nd Jan 2020 18:07

Same here, although only since October 2019. London Milan, or Palma. Not sure why they continued to interview if they had a hold pool from Feb last year.


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