@ShortfinalFred sent you a message a few days ago |
If that last post is for me, can the PM please be resent as I never got it. Thanks. |
No COMB was for ShortfinalFred I sent a long message regarding my positive experience as a recent'ish DEC
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Originally Posted by FlyboyUK
(Post 10167283)
No COMB was for ShortfinalFred I sent a long message regarding my positive experience as a recent'ish DEC
would you be kind enough to pm it to me too? 👍🏻 |
Any idea how much the bond is for the type rating?, its a real shame that we in the UK and Europe have to do the type rating again, I've over 10,000 hours in command of the A320 but not flown it since 2012 so as far as I know it' a full type rating again?👎. I'e already done two 737 type ratings in my career but that was a 20year + gap, I believe the Americans don't have to do this on an FAA license, just enough to pass a proficiency test, not a full rating?
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Originally Posted by Sick
(Post 10168201)
It's not a bond. You pay £22,000 (unless you take a Portugal base). Payments can be spread over three years. I don't think it can be taken off your pre tax salary.
Sadly, easa came out with some ill thought out guidance which said a full type rating would typically be required after three years since last flight. So far as I'm aware, it was never more than guidance, but no airline would be willing to step outside easa guidance, so it is always applied rigidly, irrespective of previous experience. Before that, it was five years, and even beyond that, exemptions could be granted for less than a full rating. Yet again, easa screws it up for the humble flight crew! |
Originally Posted by Sucram
(Post 10168289)
From my understanding only extra training is required between 3 and 5 years under the latest EASA rules, after 5 years its a full type rating
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Next intake
Has anyone in the know got an idea of when they will be training up new joiners onto LGW/LTN base? Interviewed for NTR FO in March and currently in the talent pool. Moving home from the Far East so keen to get a heads up on top of the 3 month’s required notice. |
Originally Posted by BizJetJockey
(Post 10168763)
Has anyone in the know got an idea of when they will be training up new joiners onto LGW/LTN base? Interviewed for NTR FO in March and currently in the talent pool. Moving home from the Far East so keen to get a heads up on top of the 3 month’s required notice. One of our group for DEC NTR in early March was offered an almost immediate start for Berlin base but wanted to wait for LGW. He was told that courses for LGW/LTN would most likely start in Autumn, so possibly a call in June/July to be able to give three months notice. |
Many thanks to you FlyboyUK for the very helpful PM. Pprune at its best as a source of information and support. Thanks again.
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Has anyone of the TR guys been called for autumn yet?
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Interesting to see they’ve just opened 2018/19 NTR recruitment for various bases including; Paris and French regional as well as the usual suspects of London, Berlin and Portugal. Could be a sign they are getting ready to drain the current ‘talentpool’? |
Originally Posted by 737 Jockey
(Post 10172307)
Interesting to see they’ve just opened 2018/19 NTR recruitment for various bases including; Paris and French regional as well as the usual suspects of London, Berlin and Portugal. Could be a sign they are getting ready to drain the current ‘talentpool’? |
Anyone out there been offered a UK FO DEP on 100 % recently ?
Anyone in the hold pool for UK FO DEP ? |
Anyone know if the online tests that they send you work ok on windows 10? |
Originally Posted by The Cleaner
(Post 10176212)
Anyone know if the online tests that they send you work ok on windows 10? |
Originally Posted by Sirijus
(Post 10176221)
it does! W10, Firefox and Flash - worked like a charm |
Guys, what is the take home pay of a SFO in one of the French regional bases? I hear the contract is quite good
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Hey ,does anyone have the latest info on the first stage online assessments? any tips would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by dudubrdx
(Post 10176631)
Guys, what is the take home pay of a SFO in one of the French regional bases? I hear the contract is quite good
The taxation can change a lot depending on family situation (married/not married, kids, etc). |
Originally Posted by dirk85
(Post 10176681)
Including sector pay around 97k euro gross per year, plus performance bonus and discretionary shares.
The taxation can change a lot depending on family situation (married/not married, kids, etc). 3000€/month, including sector pay, before income tax! |
The question was about SFO contract, I honestly didn't put the effort to check what the entry contract is.
Can't you join as SFO like in Germany/Spain or FO like in Italy? |
Originally Posted by dirk85
(Post 10176821)
The question was about SFO contract, I honestly didn't put the effort to check what the entry contract is.
Can't you join as SFO like in Germany/Spain or FO like in Italy? |
Similar to Italy, but to join as FO there you need more than 3000 hours factorized. |
Does anyone know, what is the type rating cost for NTR FOs joining the Berlin base? Also, which salary level would I start in with ~2300 factorized hours and an ATPL? Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Nil further
(Post 10172723)
Anyone out there been offered a UK FO DEP on 100 % recently ?
Anyone in the hold pool for UK FO DEP ? |
Originally Posted by Sirijus
(Post 10176875)
Does anyone know, what is the type rating cost for NTR FOs joining the Berlin base? Also, which salary level would I start in with ~2300 factorized hours and an ATPL? Thanks! I dont know about the rating. |
EZY assessment
Hi Guys,
I have my interview for DEC position next month, all in one day (non tech assessment, group exercise, individual interview and also SIM!!). Could anyone provide the latest contents of the non tech assessment and the sim profil? Thanks a lot |
Hi lfrk,
I went last week for NTR DEC. sim: from edinburgh SID normal takd off no fd no ap. FO from EZY but acted as a sand bag. Then a bit of manoeuvers to get the a320 in hand, basically climb/descent with a given ias, 35 bank turn at given ias.... Then hand fly ils raw data Positioning at fl350 LOFT frm EDI to LGW. Medical eme, divert to MAN. The objectives is to check the managment skills so I gave control to the FO. Back to LGW EZY office. 30mn presentation of ezy and the test team: 3 pilots and 2 hr. Then 30mn group exercise: given an A4 with the description of the exercise. Quite vague on purpose. 30mn to solve the problem. We had to build 4 tunnels to carry a vehicule, all with restrictions and limitations. Main objectives: check your participation, leadership and management. Later, 45mn hr interview. Advice: gather as much info as possible on ezy, the core values and organisation. They will check your motivation on that. 3 scenarios for a STAR discussion. Prepare these carefully. And then good by to catch the flight home😉 I hope this will be useful. The day is VERY relax and fun. They are all pro so be careful, behind any question lies a snake.... Stay relax and try to enjoy, a smile does not cost much but can make the difference. At last, you will get a thorough briefing before any task so they are not trying to trick you. They tell you what they expect frm you and what they want to see. The Easy way 😊 |
Originally Posted by Altair
(Post 10180878)
Hi lfrk,
I went last week for NTR DEC. sim: from edinburgh SID normal takd off no fd no ap. FO from EZY but acted as a sand bag. Then a bit of manoeuvers to get the a320 in hand, basically climb/descent with a given ias, 35 bank turn at given ias.... Then hand fly ils raw data Positioning at fl350 LOFT frm EDI to LGW. Medical eme, divert to MAN. The objectives is to check the managment skills so I gave control to the FO. Back to LGW EZY office. 30mn presentation of ezy and the test team: 3 pilots and 2 hr. Then 30mn group exercise: given an A4 with the description of the exercise. Quite vague on purpose. 30mn to solve the problem. We had to build 4 tunnels to carry a vehicule, all with restrictions and limitations. Main objectives: check your participation, leadership and management. Later, 45mn hr interview. Advice: gather as much info as possible on ezy, the core values and organisation. They will check your motivation on that. 3 scenarios for a STAR discussion. Prepare these carefully. And then good by to catch the flight home😉 I hope this will be useful. The day is VERY relax and fun. They are all pro so be careful, behind any question lies a snake.... Stay relax and try to enjoy, a smile does not cost much but can make the difference. At last, you will get a thorough briefing before any task so they are not trying to trick you. They tell you what they expect frm you and what they want to see. The Easy way 😊 Like previous poster said, it's all very relaxed and aimed at having a nice day out. Nervousness would probably be your worst enemy. They trust you can fly a plane as a DEC (okay you have to actually show it by doing some turns and climbs/descends during 10 minutes). Seemed to me that they are just trying to weed out bad personality fits (could immediately identify 1 in the group exercise: "what you're doing is wrong, I'll show you how they want it to be done"...) Good luck! |
Many Thanks guys!!
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Is the sim assessment conducted on 320 or 737 for NTR FO? It seems to change from times to times....
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DEC NTR Bond
Hi Guys,
What if you tick DISAGREE about TR self fund on application page ? Do they still call you for interview or is it a nogo ? I agrée to be bonded for 2 or 3 years but not to pay for it ... thx |
I did that. Doesn’t make any difference. You’ll currently pay for it one way or another - either upfront or through your net salary. To be honest I don’t regret joining for one second. |
Does anyone have any knowledge of the rumoured 4 on / 4 off roster that is allegedly going to make an appearance at the UK bases (i.e. it is definite)? thanks.
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How is it wirh AMS base? İs there a long waitinglist? Which base would you guys recommend to apply for while waiting for AMS base to come up?
Regards |
Originally Posted by OutsideCAS
(Post 10184314)
Does anyone have any knowledge of the rumoured 4 on / 4 off roster that is allegedly going to make an appearance at the UK bases (i.e. it is definite)? thanks.
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Originally Posted by captain.weird
(Post 10184320)
How is it wirh AMS base? İs there a long waitinglist? Which base would you guys recommend to apply for while waiting for AMS base to come up?
Regards Most of the dutch guys are commuting, look at the easyjet network from AMS. Italy a favourite, but super long list to get there (especially MXP with 5 daily ezy flights or so to AMS) as a Cpt. |
And lets say everything is in your favour, how long then to come up? When getting the upgrade, will there be again a basechange?
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If you are FO you can have it straight away, if you are lucky. Also any other base, actually. I have no clear statistics, but a course mate or mine joined MXP straight away as FO and got a transfer to AMS in about one year, for example.
You can bid for a specific base for the upgrade once you have a certain amount of hours and time in the company, and when your name is on top of the list for that specific base, you go for the command, and if you pass it, you end up there. Or like most you can upgrade in LGW as soon as you have the requirements, and then wait to transfer as a Cpt wherever you want, also according to the waiting lists. |
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