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FlyboyUK 7th Jun 2018 08:55

@ShortfinalFred sent you a message a few days ago

Count of Monte Bisto 7th Jun 2018 10:15

If that last post is for me, can the PM please be resent as I never got it. Thanks.

FlyboyUK 7th Jun 2018 12:29

No COMB was for ShortfinalFred I sent a long message regarding my positive experience as a recent'ish DEC

737 Jockey 7th Jun 2018 14:15


Originally Posted by FlyboyUK (Post 10167283)
No COMB was for ShortfinalFred I sent a long message regarding my positive experience as a recent'ish DEC


would you be kind enough to pm it to me too? 👍🏻

Sucram 8th Jun 2018 10:35

Any idea how much the bond is for the type rating?, its a real shame that we in the UK and Europe have to do the type rating again, I've over 10,000 hours in command of the A320 but not flown it since 2012 so as far as I know it' a full type rating again?👎. I'e already done two 737 type ratings in my career but that was a 20year + gap, I believe the Americans don't have to do this on an FAA license, just enough to pass a proficiency test, not a full rating?

Sucram 8th Jun 2018 14:34


Originally Posted by Sick (Post 10168201)
It's not a bond. You pay £22,000 (unless you take a Portugal base). Payments can be spread over three years. I don't think it can be taken off your pre tax salary.

Sadly, easa came out with some ill thought out guidance which said a full type rating would typically be required after three years since last flight. So far as I'm aware, it was never more than guidance, but no airline would be willing to step outside easa guidance, so it is always applied rigidly, irrespective of previous experience. Before that, it was five years, and even beyond that, exemptions could be granted for less than a full rating. Yet again, easa screws it up for the humble flight crew!

From my understanding only extra training is required between 3 and 5 years under the latest EASA rules, after 5 years its a full type rating

VJW 8th Jun 2018 20:40


Originally Posted by Sucram (Post 10168289)
From my understanding only extra training is required between 3 and 5 years under the latest EASA rules, after 5 years its a full type rating

In that case, why don't you go renew the rating off your own back, and apply to Easyjet as a current rated A320 pilot where you don't need to fund a full type rating? Lack of recent hours on type might be your undoing, but worth a shot.

BizJetJockey 9th Jun 2018 06:54

Next intake
 
Has anyone in the know got an idea of when they will be training up new joiners onto LGW/LTN base? Interviewed for NTR FO in March and currently in the talent pool. Moving home from the Far East so keen to get a heads up on top of the 3 month’s required notice.

737 Jockey 9th Jun 2018 09:20


Originally Posted by BizJetJockey (Post 10168763)
Has anyone in the know got an idea of when they will be training up new joiners onto LGW/LTN base? Interviewed for NTR FO in March and currently in the talent pool. Moving home from the Far East so keen to get a heads up on top of the 3 month’s required notice.


One of our group for DEC NTR in early March was offered an almost immediate start for Berlin base but wanted to wait for LGW. He was told that courses for LGW/LTN would most likely start in Autumn, so possibly a call in June/July to be able to give three months notice.

ShortfinalFred 12th Jun 2018 23:55

Many thanks to you FlyboyUK for the very helpful PM. Pprune at its best as a source of information and support. Thanks again.

flyhigh788 13th Jun 2018 11:12

Has anyone of the TR guys been called for autumn yet?

737 Jockey 13th Jun 2018 17:41

Interesting to see they’ve just opened 2018/19 NTR recruitment for various bases including; Paris and French regional as well as the usual suspects of London, Berlin and Portugal. Could be a sign they are getting ready to drain the current ‘talentpool’?

flyhigh788 14th Jun 2018 07:56


Originally Posted by 737 Jockey (Post 10172307)
Interesting to see they’ve just opened 2018/19 NTR recruitment for various bases including; Paris and French regional as well as the usual suspects of London, Berlin and Portugal. Could be a sign they are getting ready to drain the current ‘talentpool’?

Yes, I have seen that too. A lot of Recruitment going on.

Nil further 14th Jun 2018 11:54

Anyone out there been offered a UK FO DEP on 100 % recently ?
Anyone in the hold pool for UK FO DEP ?

The Cleaner 18th Jun 2018 22:09

Anyone know if the online tests that they send you work ok on windows 10?

Sirijus 18th Jun 2018 22:22


Originally Posted by The Cleaner (Post 10176212)
Anyone know if the online tests that they send you work ok on windows 10?

it does! W10, Firefox and Flash - worked like a charm

The Cleaner 19th Jun 2018 05:00


Originally Posted by Sirijus (Post 10176221)


it does! W10, Firefox and Flash - worked like a charm

Thanks for that!

dudubrdx 19th Jun 2018 12:34

Guys, what is the take home pay of a SFO in one of the French regional bases? I hear the contract is quite good

patelv6 19th Jun 2018 13:47

Hey ,does anyone have the latest info on the first stage online assessments? any tips would be appreciated.

dirk85 19th Jun 2018 14:02


Originally Posted by dudubrdx (Post 10176631)
Guys, what is the take home pay of a SFO in one of the French regional bases? I hear the contract is quite good

Including sector pay around 97k euro gross per year, plus performance bonus and discretionary shares.

The taxation can change a lot depending on family situation (married/not married, kids, etc).

SpGo 19th Jun 2018 17:21


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10176681)
Including sector pay around 97k euro gross per year, plus performance bonus and discretionary shares.

The taxation can change a lot depending on family situation (married/not married, kids, etc).

The entry contract in France is SO, not SFO!
3000€/month, including sector pay, before income tax!



dirk85 19th Jun 2018 17:45

The question was about SFO contract, I honestly didn't put the effort to check what the entry contract is.

Can't you join as SFO like in Germany/Spain or FO like in Italy?

SpGo 19th Jun 2018 17:57


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10176821)
The question was about SFO contract, I honestly didn't put the effort to check what the entry contract is.

Can't you join as SFO like in Germany/Spain or FO like in Italy?

Impossible to join as SFO in France, FO if full ATPL and more than 1500 easyJet factored hours otherwise SO.

dirk85 19th Jun 2018 18:53

Similar to Italy, but to join as FO there you need more than 3000 hours factorized.

Sirijus 19th Jun 2018 19:06

Does anyone know, what is the type rating cost for NTR FOs joining the Berlin base?

Also, which salary level would I start in with ~2300 factorized hours and an ATPL?

Thanks!

giggitygiggity 19th Jun 2018 22:59


Originally Posted by Nil further (Post 10172723)
Anyone out there been offered a UK FO DEP on 100 % recently ?
Anyone in the hold pool for UK FO DEP ?

Perhaps bad news on this front but apparently (says Balpa), direct entry recruitment in the UK is stopping for now until the problem of direct entry pilots being recruited on 100pc contracts when experienced current easyJet FOs are being forced to take 75pc contracts for seasonal resilience purposes. easyJet have been doing this for years! Finally, the current generation of FOs have moaned enough that Balpa have remembered they are not just there to support the captains.

dirk85 20th Jun 2018 12:47


Originally Posted by Sirijus (Post 10176875)
Does anyone know, what is the type rating cost for NTR FOs joining the Berlin base?

Also, which salary level would I start in with ~2300 factorized hours and an ATPL?

Thanks!

You would join as FO. SFO only with more than 2500 factorized. You go up in rank after 2 years.

I dont know about the rating.

lfrk 21st Jun 2018 14:00

EZY assessment
 
Hi Guys,
I have my interview for DEC position next month, all in one day (non tech assessment, group exercise, individual interview and also SIM!!).
Could anyone provide the latest contents of the non tech assessment and the sim profil?
Thanks a lot

Altair 24th Jun 2018 18:54

Hi lfrk,

I went last week for NTR DEC.
sim: from edinburgh SID normal takd off no fd no ap. FO from EZY but acted as a sand bag.
Then a bit of manoeuvers to get the a320 in hand, basically climb/descent with a given ias, 35 bank turn at given ias....
Then hand fly ils raw data

Positioning at fl350 LOFT frm EDI to LGW. Medical eme, divert to MAN. The objectives is to check the managment skills so I gave control to the FO.

Back to LGW EZY office. 30mn presentation of ezy and the test team: 3 pilots and 2 hr.
Then 30mn group exercise: given an A4 with the description of the exercise. Quite vague on purpose. 30mn to solve the problem. We had to build 4 tunnels to carry a vehicule, all with restrictions and limitations.
Main objectives: check your participation, leadership and management.

Later, 45mn hr interview. Advice: gather as much info as possible on ezy, the core values and organisation. They will check your motivation on that.
3 scenarios for a STAR discussion. Prepare these carefully.

And then good by to catch the flight home😉
I hope this will be useful. The day is VERY relax and fun. They are all pro so be careful, behind any question lies a snake.... Stay relax and try to enjoy, a smile does not cost much but can make the difference.
At last, you will get a thorough briefing before any task so they are not trying to trick you. They tell you what they expect frm you and what they want to see.

The Easy way 😊

cumulustratus 25th Jun 2018 06:59


Originally Posted by Altair (Post 10180878)
Hi lfrk,

I went last week for NTR DEC.
sim: from edinburgh SID normal takd off no fd no ap. FO from EZY but acted as a sand bag.
Then a bit of manoeuvers to get the a320 in hand, basically climb/descent with a given ias, 35 bank turn at given ias....
Then hand fly ils raw data

Positioning at fl350 LOFT frm EDI to LGW. Medical eme, divert to MAN. The objectives is to check the managment skills so I gave control to the FO.

Back to LGW EZY office. 30mn presentation of ezy and the test team: 3 pilots and 2 hr.
Then 30mn group exercise: given an A4 with the description of the exercise. Quite vague on purpose. 30mn to solve the problem. We had to build 4 tunnels to carry a vehicule, all with restrictions and limitations.
Main objectives: check your participation, leadership and management.

Later, 45mn hr interview. Advice: gather as much info as possible on ezy, the core values and organisation. They will check your motivation on that.
3 scenarios for a STAR discussion. Prepare these carefully.

And then good by to catch the flight home😉
I hope this will be useful. The day is VERY relax and fun. They are all pro so be careful, behind any question lies a snake.... Stay relax and try to enjoy, a smile does not cost much but can make the difference.
At last, you will get a thorough briefing before any task so they are not trying to trick you. They tell you what they expect frm you and what they want to see.

The Easy way 😊

Exactly the same as what I went through in January. The day is designed to catch your personality and leadership style. Raw data flying in the a320 would be the only way to prepare for the assessment, something I personally didn't do and don't think would've done me much good, as they cut me more slack for never having been in a a320 flight deck before.

Like previous poster said, it's all very relaxed and aimed at having a nice day out. Nervousness would probably be your worst enemy. They trust you can fly a plane as a DEC (okay you have to actually show it by doing some turns and climbs/descends during 10 minutes). Seemed to me that they are just trying to weed out bad personality fits (could immediately identify 1 in the group exercise: "what you're doing is wrong, I'll show you how they want it to be done"...)

Good luck!

lfrk 25th Jun 2018 07:41

Many Thanks guys!!

eiffel 25th Jun 2018 14:04

Is the sim assessment conducted on 320 or 737 for NTR FO? It seems to change from times to times....

cheickyour6 28th Jun 2018 15:31

DEC NTR Bond
 
Hi Guys,

What if you tick DISAGREE about TR self fund on application page ?
Do they still call you for interview or is it a nogo ?
​​​​​​​I agrée to be bonded for 2 or 3 years but not to pay for it ...
​​​​​​​thx

VJW 29th Jun 2018 08:58

I did that. Doesn’t make any difference. You’ll currently pay for it one way or another - either upfront or through your net salary. To be honest I don’t regret joining for one second.

OutsideCAS 29th Jun 2018 11:55

Does anyone have any knowledge of the rumoured 4 on / 4 off roster that is allegedly going to make an appearance at the UK bases (i.e. it is definite)? thanks.

captain.weird 29th Jun 2018 12:08

How is it wirh AMS base? İs there a long waitinglist? Which base would you guys recommend to apply for while waiting for AMS base to come up?

Regards

dirk85 29th Jun 2018 12:49


Originally Posted by OutsideCAS (Post 10184314)
Does anyone have any knowledge of the rumoured 4 on / 4 off roster that is allegedly going to make an appearance at the UK bases (i.e. it is definite)? thanks.

Latest rumours are it ain’t happening.

dirk85 29th Jun 2018 12:55


Originally Posted by captain.weird (Post 10184320)
How is it wirh AMS base? İs there a long waitinglist? Which base would you guys recommend to apply for while waiting for AMS base to come up?

Regards

There is no definite waiting list for AMS, just a regular bidding couple of times per year, based mainly on social criteria (house in the vicinity, relatives, language, etc).

Most of the dutch guys are commuting, look at the easyjet network from AMS. Italy a favourite, but super long list to get there (especially MXP with 5 daily ezy flights or so to AMS) as a Cpt.

captain.weird 29th Jun 2018 13:31

And lets say everything is in your favour, how long then to come up? When getting the upgrade, will there be again a basechange?

dirk85 29th Jun 2018 13:40

If you are FO you can have it straight away, if you are lucky. Also any other base, actually. I have no clear statistics, but a course mate or mine joined MXP straight away as FO and got a transfer to AMS in about one year, for example.
You can bid for a specific base for the upgrade once you have a certain amount of hours and time in the company, and when your name is on top of the list for that specific base, you go for the command, and if you pass it, you end up there. Or like most you can upgrade in LGW as soon as you have the requirements, and then wait to transfer as a Cpt wherever you want, also according to the waiting lists.


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