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randon 22nd Apr 2018 16:27


Originally Posted by Cmon-PullUP (Post 10126887)
Sorry for asking, but how can you have 6000 hrs on airbus and not be Cat 3?

It's not all airlines in the world that have this training... The number of ours has nothing to do with the fact of having or not CAT3 training. It depends on the airline you fly.

NessunoAmo 28th Apr 2018 00:11

EZY Milan Rostering
 
Hi, Im interested in the EZY Milan rostering. Is it similar to LGW where you work 5/3-5/4 earlies then lates? Are nightstops common?

Thank in advance for the heads up.

737 Jockey 28th Apr 2018 21:52


Originally Posted by NessunoAmo (Post 10132149)
Hi, Im interested in the EZY Milan rostering. Is it similar to LGW where you work 5/3-5/4 earlies then lates? Are nightstops common?

Thank in advance for the heads up.


outside the UK I believe it’s FRV roster rather that fixed pattern.

5453 28th Apr 2018 21:55

Lots of 5/4 in Milan

dirk85 28th Apr 2018 22:56

One year mandatory flexi roster in Italy, and then 5/4.

Dan Winterland 29th Apr 2018 05:21


Sorry for asking, but how can you have 6000 hrs on airbus and not be Cat 3?
Some parts of the world don't require it. For example, who needs in LWMO in Australia? My company trained to CAT II only for many years as 300m is was about the lowest experienced on any of ports in our network. It's only recently that we went to CAT III and that was to align with our sister company. I doubt if I do more than one LWMO approach in a year.

NessunoAmo 1st May 2018 02:17


Originally Posted by 737 Jockey (Post 10132853)



outside the UK I believe it’s FRV roster rather that fixed pattern.

thanks for the heads up..

NessunoAmo 1st May 2018 02:17


Originally Posted by 5453 (Post 10132855)
Lots of 5/4 in Milan

thanks for the heads up..

NessunoAmo 1st May 2018 02:18


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10132896)
One year mandatory flexi roster in Italy, and then 5/4.

Thanks Dirk

G-IZMO 2nd May 2018 10:46

DEC Type Rating Costs
 
Sorry if this is a repeat, but for DEC NTR, how much is the candidate required to pay and is it taken off before tax? Interested in UK based work.

VJW 2nd May 2018 16:26

Does anyone know what the flight pay works out 'roughly' per year (net) for a DEC?

737 Jockey 2nd May 2018 19:15

I would disagree that the TR costs are not reclaimable against tax. The TR is required to be able to do the job, therefore (IMHO) it’s a legitimate business expense and should be put through on your self assessment form, just like travel, subsistence, dry cleaning etc. Ryanair Pilots were successfully putting the £20,000 through in one tax year. This would be approx. £7,000 per year for three years.

Still outrageous that DEC’s are required to stump up for this in any case!

flight pay around £17,000 a year, so I’ve been told.

flareflyer 3rd May 2018 04:59

Gents,
At the moment it seems that they are recruiting ntr dec only for LIS.
Any hope they will reopen for LGW?

Monarch Man 3rd May 2018 05:26

737, until experienced pilots STOP paying for typeratings, EZY will keep charging for them, it’s that simple.

Yupi 4th May 2018 09:41

Can anyone comment on what to expect for the NTR DEC sim evaluation? I fly a 737NG so am thinking if I got as far as a sim evaluation it might be good to get familiarized with the A320 on my own dime.

Harbat 8th May 2018 07:16

Can anyone provide information about the Portuguese bases please? Trying to find out some information on the rosters and how the staff travel works. Thanks

Airone2977 16th May 2018 12:53

https://easyjet.taleo.net/careersect...=GMT%2B02%3A00

Seems like EZY reopen recruitment for low timers this time

737 Jockey 16th May 2018 13:12


Originally Posted by Airone2977 (Post 10148318)
https://easyjet.taleo.net/careersect...=GMT%2B02%3A00

Seems like EZY reopen recruitment for low timers this time


interesting that they seem happy to fully fund cadet type ratings, but not experienced DEC! 🤔🤬

dirk85 16th May 2018 14:13

They want 10k “contribution” plus a bond most likely, so not properly fully funded.

am111 16th May 2018 21:18


Originally Posted by Airone2977 (Post 10148318)
https://easyjet.taleo.net/careersection/2/jobdetail.ftl?job=08156&tz=GMT%2B02%3A00

Seems like EZY reopen recruitment for low timers this time

Interesting that the job posting is under the Amy Johnson Iniative but there is no mention of it being open exclusively to women...

CAE recently re-opened easyJet recruitment to their cadets but were still asking for the cadets to self-fund the type rating.


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10148380)
They want 10k “contribution” plus a bond most likely, so not properly fully funded.

​​​​​​​Where did you see that?

dirk85 16th May 2018 21:40

Internal communication. The 10k part, the bond part is my guess.

captbod 17th May 2018 10:58

Got an email from CAE asking if I’d be interested in DEC positions with their client Easyjet. I replied including my details and received the following....Sorry but they only accept application form pilots operating as commercial passenger Captains so we can’t proceed. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Regards.
In other words experienced cargo pilots need not apply, never realised an ATPL for cargo aeroplanes differed from passenger????




matt283 17th May 2018 12:02

blue and yellow does not have any problem to take cargo pilots ;)

dirk85 17th May 2018 12:03

Apply straight to easyJet, no need to go via CAE.

Mendel 18th May 2018 09:08

I joined as a DEC from the cargo world less than 2 years ago, as above.

HF13 22nd May 2018 05:06


Originally Posted by Mendel (Post 10150129)
I joined as a DEC from the cargo world less than 2 years ago, as above.

Hi Mendel,

Can you remember if at that time u applied there was the limitation of:
  • Currently operating* as a Commercial Passenger Captain on aircraft above 30 Tonnes MTOW
https://easyjet.taleo.net/careersect...=GMT%2B02%3A00

thanks

worldnomad 22nd May 2018 13:33

Are you already on the payroll when u start the type rating training?

dboy 26th May 2018 08:56

Hello.

I am considering applying for Easy Swiss as a FO NTR. I was wondering if you have to fund the rating yourself?? If so, it is then a no-go for me.
Second question: if you are based in basel or geneva, how does youe roster look like? Random pattern or fixed pattern?

grts

Gabbers 26th May 2018 10:50

What are the chances of BRS base as DEC? Very senior base? Will it take years to get there or could you get lucky?

Paddingtonbear 26th May 2018 10:59

If you join EZY UK with 2,501+ factored hours, do you still need to do 2 years with the company as an FO before being eligible for SFO status?

Cheers

737 Jockey 26th May 2018 16:40


Originally Posted by Gabbers (Post 10157317)
What are the chances of BRS base as DEC? Very senior base? Will it take years to get there or could you get lucky?


I would guess at slim to anorexic! Recent recruitment for LGW, LTN, Berlin and Portuguese bases. I imagine LHS places at BRS and most regional U.K. bases are like gold dust. In those bases, SFO’s are probably reluctant to go for upgrade due to being sent away to LGW and waiting ages to get back, hence the need for DEC.

It seems DEC has almost stopped except for rated folks for Berlin bases. Even Portugal is not featured on the careers website as far as I can see, or are they using external agencies now?

tmtxpress 27th May 2018 03:58


Originally Posted by Paddingtonbear (Post 10157327)
If you join EZY UK with 2,501+ factored hours, do you still need to do 2 years with the company as an FO before being eligible for SFO status?

Cheers

No, you will start as SFO straight away.

Paddingtonbear 27th May 2018 06:05


Originally Posted by tmtxpress (Post 10157839)
No, you will start as SFO straight away.

Thank you, much appreciated.

tomuchwork 28th May 2018 01:25

Seems Portugal is gone which is no big loss(for me). Was hoping that Berlin NTR would open but nothing yet(rumour says they are lacking DEC's there as not enough AB skippers are applying).

Seems Italian bases are full(always skipper) as well which would be interesting because of the italian CLA... Well, we will see. And how much RYR is increasing their "package" to keep up with pilot demand. Not sure if EZY is really the right "horse" to put your bet on after that not really clever move of leaving the EU(even they have the swiss and new austrian AOC)....

dirk85 28th May 2018 11:21

Before talking about bases I would be more worried about passing the assessment.
Only a very small % of DEC applicants are getting the offer, since most of the positions are filled with internal upgrades.

Once you go for the interview it does not matter what you applied for, you will be asked 3 bases of preference, even out of the application base.

737 Jockey 2nd Jun 2018 15:42

Any folks been called recently with a TR course start date?

ShortfinalFred 5th Jun 2018 08:24

Any recent DEC at LGW
 
How is life at easy? Much chance of part time? How many hours per year full time? Are you sent to fly from another base for your x5 day block often? Can you ever get any leave in the summer? Are the rosters stable or does the content of the block of work change much after publication?

Count of Monte Bisto 6th Jun 2018 01:33

There is absolutely zero possibility of DEC positions at a regional base here in EZY - as 737 Jockey says, they are like gold dust and you have to wait your time for them (a very long time of many years in most cases). It is not true to say that the DECs have dried up and nor is it true that Air Berlin captains are not applying. Not all the Air Berlin or Monarch captains have been successful at interview or the sim assessment, but we have still taken a shed load of them (a couple of hundred or thereabouts). It is a happy arrangement all round - unemployed captains get jobs with a good company and easyJet gets top quality guys - win-win for everyone. Regarding non-rated DECs, we have taken a lot from Norwegian and Ryanair (could not tell you the exact number) and will continue to do so from what I hear. The limitation at the moment is training capacity. EasyJet are taking around 900 new pilots this year and that is a massive training burden. There is not an airline in the world that would not wince at that and easyJet is no exception. Nonetheless, it is happening and the vast majority of people are happy to be there.

Regarding ShortfinalFred's questions, there is no one easy answer as it varies from base to base. I will try and cover the questions as best I can. In short, life for most pilots at easyJet is good, but it is hard work. Part-time is hard to come by, but not impossible. You can reckon on it taking 3 years from applying to getting it. You are virtually never sent out your base for a 5-day block, but there are temporary bases available for captains in LIS and OPO if you want them. You can get the odd night away, but rarely whole blocks. Trainers who have volunteered are getting a few months in MXP to run the new sim there. Leave in the summer is very controversial and extremely individual in terms of experience. Most people can get some but not everyone does. Roster stability varies from base to base, but July and August are prone to massive disruption - particularly in bases like LGW and LTN. The content of the block of work often changes after roster publication, but not so much at the smaller bases. However, once the roster is out, your days off are set in concrete and cannot be touched unless you volunteer to work them for extra money. Hope that helps.

dirk85 6th Jun 2018 09:15

Just to add to the excellent Count’s post, in some of the contracts there is a guaranteed block of leave in Summer (from mid June to mid September).
There is not such a thing as an easyJet unique contract, every country has its own set of rules, in terms of money, holiday, pension, ftl limitations, part time options and rosters. It’s almost like working for different companies, that’s why it’s not easy to answer to some of the questions here.

ShortfinalFred 7th Jun 2018 00:56

Many Thanks....
 
....to The Count and to Dirk for those informative and helpful replies.


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