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Oops, Simon, you are correct..... must have been TF-ARH they turned down.
mea culpa, mea maxima culpa..........:} |
TF-ARH will definately not meet any passenger requirements, it is a freighter!
Even Icelanders are not that rude to offer a freighter for Hajj-flights. |
JEEZ.. you guys are a tough audience!
TropicalUpdate: Don't be too sure about your last comment. It would not surprise me if AAI tried that some time. They respect their customers just half an iota more than they respect their ex-pat crews. PERCHANCE, yea PERCHANCE.... could the aircraft refused by Garuda have been TF-ARU???? Had to take a quick perusal of my logbook. If it wasn't TF-ARS, it was TF-ARU.....(ducking for the cover of the dining table):oh: |
What's d latest?
Are there any more encouraging news or otherwise regarding AAI's survival thru the economic upheaval? Share us through this forum. People who have worked and served years with AAI should always be interested to listen or read the latest!
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I was hoping your post was going to inform us all that this outfit was consigned to oblivion.
All it has done is trigger flashbacks from my time there, as I am still traumatised and having nightmares, from the mauling I experienced there. |
Just hoping that people can read what has been written between the lines and they can come out with good or bad to that effect. Having resigned more than a year ago made me feel good something in disguise. On the otherhand, there is always the disadvantage or advantage for every decision I made during my time with AAI.
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AAI
They could save a lot by auditing the Travel Department...
the money they p)))s away is unreal |
AAI Travel Dept
....brings back memories, the day they told an F/O to position to SHJ from DXB via London!!!! After protesting he called them back an hour later saying that he was already there.....via a taxi!!!! Fond memories.....
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Krappp All Over
I feel the same,
I left a year ago this month and I feel lucky the Bastards in the office oppted to listen to this"FURLOUGH" me !!!! Fat chance, they should have said you are fired. Got an e-mail from airborne 2 months ago telling me I better start looking for another job. How stupid can they be !!! I started looking as soon as they told me to go home. I am flying, and in Europe, and I cna come home every month WITH PAY !!!! Not like the KRAPP they had and still have. I did here they called some guys back and are now flying !!! Feel sorry for them, they are just either looking for a 400 spot or they are asleep and in another world. Good luck to all, the group with a few exeptions like the ******* chief engineer are great guys. Bruce should get the remaining a/c, extend the flaps and ram it up his assssss !!! :ok: |
...brings back memories, the day they told an F/O to position to SHJ from DXB via London!!!! After protesting he called them back an hour later saying that he was already there.....via a taxi!!!! Fond memories..... PMSL! Yeah I remember that one - Arngrimmer himself told me that one .... after he'd sold the company. :) I use to tell it to some of the people I worked with after I left AAI, when they complained about their company doing daft things. "You think that's bad, how about this then ...." :D |
Same same Urraca,I am also so happy I left this :mad: company,no future over there!!!!!!!
Guys..take the money and leave as soon as you can or after the hajj it will be the same.. ULV:E |
18 wheeler
....and the fish heads were even quietly proud of this story.... |
Travel..
How about MAN-DUB-AMS ?
When queried.. 'Oh we just ask xxx (their 'travel provider; based in USA whose knowledge of geography was on a par with the Travel Office themselves) for the best deal!!! |
avherald today...
Hi all,
from today's news Report: Air Atlanta Icelandic B742 over Romania on Jul 14th 2007, strong odour in cockpit Report: Air Atlanta Icelandic B742 over Romania on Jul 14th 2007, strong odour in cockpit By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Jun 16th 2009 09:16Z, last updated Tuesday, Jun 16th 2009 12:35Z An Air Atlanta Icelandic Boeing 747-200 freighter on behalf of Malaysia Airlines, registration TF-ATX performing freight flight MH-6151 from Milan Linate (Italy) to Dubai (United Arab Emirates) with 2 passengers and 3 crew, was enroute overhead Romania, when an odour in the cabin appearing shortly after takeoff became so strong, that the passengers complained about the smell. The captain, who was aware the airplane carried some level 9 hazardeous material (hazard to environment) sent the flight engineer to the cargo bay to inspect the cargo. When the flight engineer returned to the cockpit, he immediately donned his oxygen mask, then reported a piece of cargo just underneath the cockpit, that leaked vapour or fumes. The flight engineer felt dizzy and said, he was about to pass out. At this point the captain noticed, that the first officer acted strangely and showed signs of hypoxia. The first officer donned his oxygen mask, the captain used his oxygen mask only occasionally as he did not feel any symptom other than the odour. Without declaring emergency the captain decided to divert to the closest available airport at Budapest and requested a technical landing reporting the odour at 21:16LT (19:16Z). He decided to land as quickly as possible and opted to not dump fuel, but perform an overweight landing. The aircraft landed safely 25 minutes later. The Hungarian Transportation Safety Board reported in their English report released via the Icelandic "Rannsóknarnefnd flugslysa" (RNF), that the material was a synthetic pharmaceutic raw material. That material was solid below 5 degrees Centigrade, at higher temperatures the material becomes fluid and then intensively evaporates. During loading in Linate, which took several hours, the outside temperature had been around 30 degrees Centigrade, the temperature in the cargo bay had become even higher. Due to lack of cooling in the cargo bay the material evaporated during the flight and leaked through the non-airtight plastic barrels. The vapor caused nausea, the use of the oxygen masks prevented a deterioration of the situation. The Hungarian TSB concluded: 3.1 Direct causes of the occurrence - The company that prepared the hazardous material BAL5287 for shipping (Antibioticos S.P.A.) did not indicate on the shipping documentation and on the storage containers the required temperature while in storage and during shipping, and did not provide airtight containers. - The cargo loader – while being aware of the fact that they were handling dangerous goods – did not check the MSDS upon receipt (they did not open the envelope containing the document) therefore the required storage temperature of +5 C° was neither ensured nor noted on the NOTOC. - The required temperature of +2…+8 C° in the aircraft's cargo bay was not provided for the 149 kgs of vaccination that was listed in the NOTOC and was transported in JL position. - The required cooling in the aircraft’s cargo bay was not provided for the 90 kgs of chocolate that was listed in the NOTOC and was transported in QL position. - Due to lack of cooling, the crystallization of the material that could have prevented evaporation of dangerous vapours could not take place. - The cargo load inspector did not sign the NOTOC and the captain accepted it without the signature. 3.2 Indirect causes of the occurrence - The captain was aware of the procedures of the emergency manual for Category Nine dangerous goods but he did not consider the use of oxygen mask mandatory for himself. 3.3 Risk factors that cannot be linked to the occurrence - There were several packages where the UN sign, the UN number, the PSN number, or the sender's data were covered or otherwise not clearly visible. - The ULD identification tags contained the three-letter cargo IMP code, in contradiction with the IATA DGR which requires the usage of Class/Division Numbers. - There were simultaneously Air Malaysia and Air France package ID labels on the packages which is not allowed. - The form for listing the non-radioactive dangerous goods was a 2006 edition, and the answers given to questions No. 37 and No. 51 were incorrect. - The medical check in the captain's pilot licence expired on 2 June 2007. DOES ANYBODY KNOW SOMETHING MORE??? |
Angola to China ?
let the dream go ON. There are about 5 crews from TAG training at ALTION for their 777, They will be flying that route, I asked them about the AAI deal and all said the A/C has been grounded ever since it got to Luanda. All the guys were in the B747 before coming to train in the 777.
I am glad I was sent home last year, had time to get back , relax and find another job. If still there, Good Luck getting one when the ship full of rats go down, specially the incestuous residents of the Northern Rock !!!! paladin, they will pay, bloody pay, better not come near where i am, except for a few like argrimurs son he is nice. The rest can kiss my ass, specially the Chief F/E from down under !!!!:ugh::ugh: |
400 tons,
I hope the guys smell the roses and do take their money and run !!! looks like the Grim ripper is coming to get them !!!!!:ok: |
Chief F/E from down under ... |
FFS.. +2/+8C on the maindeck of a 742 is a no-can-do. After hours and hours of cruise coming out of DXB (lets say 35-40C) you might just get about 15C. WTF wasn't this stuff in the rear belly? (fairly decent temp control).
And before anyone talks about what a 744F can or can't do... believe me , it can't (Boeing say it can, but then Airbus said the A380 was a good -F too). I have been in the 400F game since 93. (1st one, 2nd one, 3rd one, 25th one etc etc... ever built). |
Latest rumour from the sand pit is that AAI has complained formally to Saudia about the recent hiring of 8-9 South African F/Es. Seems the former Airborne Personnel contractors, who had been flying on the AAI contract in JED, have been hired by SV.
AAI seems bent on trying to prevent their employment on grounds they were AAI employees ! Kudos to SV for pointing out they were contractors and NOT AAI property. Free market provides free opportunity... Suck on that fact, AAI. If you're gonna try to screw your ex-contractors..... you'll find that you'll have many more targets in the next few weeks and fewer crew to man the fleet....:ok: Good on ya Saudia HR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Well that fits. Screw your crew, they will walk at the first opportunity.
Your post indicates there maybe an element of surprise at the actions of these morons. I am not suprised in the least. If they were not ACMI, would you be surprised if they were paying cash for essential services? I wouldn't. |
Saudia HR:ok:keep on going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
AAI, everything goes around comes around,its your turn..what do you expect? |
.....specially the Chief F/E from down under Interesting that most of the whingers on this thread,complaining about AAI, couldn't get a job with any other Company. Being brutally honest, the only "bad" thing about AAI is the uncertainty of one's longevity with the Company. That,unfortunately,is the same with ALL wet lease operators - your job is only as good as the next contract!:ok: |
This was tried with a few Captains, Italian types from Phuket Air,
Same thing different day, less than 1 year ago. This letter did end up in HR with Saudia, the Italian Captains were never hired after there sim checks, I hope Saudia HR learned something from this. If crews are furloughed and AAI or Phuket has no more work for them then they are free to go. Saudia is a real company, not ACMI type, with contracts that are followed. You may hear a lot of bad things about Saudi Arabia on here, but rarely ever about how the crews are treated. Give it up AAI, you don't have any work, let these people go and pay there bills! I am really shocked to hear this, AAI was a marginal half way decent company years ago, what happened? If you wish to keep crews on standby then you should be paying them to stay! Cant have it both ways! Surprised you even have the audacity to try! |
Whiskery (I would lay off it if I were you)
"Interesting that most of the whingers on this thread,complaining about AAI, couldn't get a job with any other Company." Hang on a minute sport. When I kicked AAI into touch I have never looked back and am still gainfully employed thank you very much. Doing 100 hours per year max, flying corporate on decent pay. I work for company who values their employees and treats them like human beings. AAI was the worst company I ever worked for because of the lies and the cancerous nepotism, to name just few. The present outfit I work for have their faults but AAI could offer me double the pay and I still would tell them to take a running jump, in the extremely unlikely event I would be asked. You see I get paid to stick around. Oh BTW I did not need a validation when I worked at AAI. |
the Italian Captains were never hired after there sim checks Mutt |
The rest are with Midex.
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weido salt - so after your time in AAI you secured a corporate flying job. Why not the corporate job on 100 hours per year before you joined AAI?
AAI could offer me double the pay and I still would tell them to take a running jump, My point is you can get a job with AAI with very little experience and build up hours on wide body heavy transport aircraft. Unfortunately, you have to take the **** for a while to get enough experience to enjoy the spoils of a job you now have.:D ......lies and the cancerous nepotism |
"Why not the corporate job on 100 hours per year before you joined AAI?"
Don't know, luck of the draw I guess. Please be assured, my situation was desperate at the time, that is why I joined AAI. Any port in storm, as the old saying goes. I do hope I am never in the same situation where I have to even contemplate resorting to the likes of AAI. In fact I would give up aviation, if I was reduced to that level again. :) "Get used to it or get out." Get used to it? Not me mate. S**t on me and I walk, as I am nobodies whore and don't intend to be. I bend over for no one := |
Please be assured, my situation was desperate at the time, that is why I joined AAI. Any port in storm, as the old saying goes. That's the whole point - You have to be desperate to work for AAI and when they give you a job, instead of toughing it out, you bitch about trivialities like "the lies and the cancerous nepotism" - GIVE ME FRIGGIN BREAK!:ugh: |
Don't ever recall insinuating I did any work. Was "there" for a (remunerated) period of time, that's all you need to know.
They didn't s:mad:w me. Before you attack that unfortunate keyboard again, don't assume. |
that's all you need to know. They didn't s:mad:w me Yeah, right! |
Wow !!!!
Complains to SV because they hired F/E's that were stuck in assam? Now that really shows how low they think about contractors !!! Shame on AAi !!! How low can you go?
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Not only that Urraca,Capt,F/O's and F/E's at home since months without any income;this is what AAI calls "being flexible"
That's why we leave this :mad: flying club!!!!! SV:D |
At least in SV, the new FE's can sit around for months with an income :ok::ok:
Mutt |
For those readers who are ex AAI, be informed that ex CEO Hafthor Hafstiensson - "Haffi" - was killed in a light aircraft accident in Iceland at the weekend - I understand the aircraft hit a power cable. He was very much instrumental in bringing AAI from a 2 aircraft Hajj operator to what was a 50 aircraft company.
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So HE was the brains behind AAI???
Current management seem to be determined to drive the company back to a 2-plane operation!!! R.I.P. "Haffi" |
Well of course the current management want to drive it back to a 2 plane operation...what else can they do when you have to employ stupid cod-head pilots to work for you. AAI was built to a almost 30 aircraft company when they had lots of contracrors working for them who knew what it takes to make a company work and knew what loyalty meant, the cod-head pilots as usual go out of their way to poison everything they touch.:sad:
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I just saw a photo with an Air Atlanta Icelandic 74F at Byrno, and it was stated that it was flying for MasKargo. Do they normally fly to Byrno, and where do the 747-200F usually fly? (via Air Atlanta Icelandic) What are the conditions? Cheers!
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where is Byrno? what is its code
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Racist remarks.
Why does it seem as it is acceptable on this website to use quite freely racist remarks and slangs ?
Now it is quite clear and obvious that jumbolloyd has a big issue with AAI and maybe few of my fellow countrymen, but how in the world does this website and its moderators allow him to use words like "Cod-Heads" and "IceNiggers" when talking about us ?I know you'll not find the latter word because I reported it and it was removed but not before that like it should be. And shame on the rest of you for not thinking anything of this! No one would get away using what is now considered derogatory slang about peoples nationality like used for Chinese, Mexican, Italian, Polish and whatnot. Why should it be any different for us?.. I have been a member of this site for quite some time now and have on most occasion admired how it is control and how valuable, informative and respectful most replies are until now. I admit that I have complained about this use of "Cod-Heads" or "Fish-Heads" and it has not been considered worthwhile to reply to me, let alone remove them from this discussion. What do you think ? Proxus. |
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