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jumbolloyd 17th Mar 2009 14:58

Ahhh...sorry Janne, quite right poor choice I realize, now I don't know what to call them, what a dilemma, I'll have to come up with a new category.

And Nippon1, I send you & yours my regards, I got your e-mail, hope all is well there, and yes you sure got delt a bad hand by AAI a few months ago, wrong people got fired, talk about shooting the messenger. :sad:

GlueBall 18th Mar 2009 07:52

Hey, . . are you the guys who eat Hákarl, the putrified shark meat; and drink Brennivín, the schnapps made from fermented potato pulp...? :p

aeroground 18th Mar 2009 12:55

Rumour on the street the Etihad contract is ending

Codhead in Abu Dhabi 21st Mar 2009 13:24

Just heard about this thread

Is there any update on this - we have two airbuses here in AUH - I know contract is due for renewal with Etihad - have we lost this contract as well ? Time to dust off the CV me thinks ??

Atlanta-Driver 21st Mar 2009 13:27

From what I hear, that contract is ending in June. Subject to change as usual.

Kato747 29th Mar 2009 12:42

CODHEAD.....

Just don't be surprised by the sheer numbers of CV's on desks ahead of yours. Lots of guys, "released" in Jan/Feb by AAI will be ahead of you !

kEEP THE FAITH, maybe AAI will survive this, maybe not.

Codhead in Abu Dhabi 3rd Apr 2009 20:13

Etihad Contract ends 31st May
 
Heard that AAI have definately lost the Etihad contract at the end of May - time to be sending off the CV's to Maximus as they have picked up the contract - guess this makes sense for Etihad to feed another UAE company and maybe AAI should have seen it coming...

jumbolloyd 4th Apr 2009 05:41

Well this is bad news to say the least, and as for AAI should have seen it coming, well what do you expect from the codheads up there.

All run by a mothers club and feminists, with young kids in VP postions who have no experience or a real education most likely, and the others in operations etc that send e-mails to each other and NOT talking all the while being in the same room, how can you build a first class company with this kind of philosophy.

So what is left now, SV and MH, don't suppose any one from Sales & Marketing if you can call it that, are doing anything except sitting in their offices staring at computer screens waiting (hopeful) for someone to come through the door offering a contract like a rabbit out of a hat, may Allah bless them, AAI will need it, I don't suppose I can expect a re-call anytime soon hey.:sad:

old fart 4th Apr 2009 07:15

empty
 
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...Freighter1.jpg

good luck chaps.

Whiskery 4th Apr 2009 09:04

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/s...irAtlanta2.jpg

Those were the days !

Kato747 4th Apr 2009 15:27

Wow, that's still in the old "Horny Viking" Logo !

gubaclagan 5th Apr 2009 23:58

AAI JED/KUL stations
 
Any further details re-above subject? How many aircrafts flying now? Personnel-wise (flight operations and maintenance), are there any abrupt changes? Hoping that AAI can survive the economic crisis! Have enjoyed working with them for more than 10 years as a contractor! To all those who are lucky among the few, God bless.:ok:

znote6224w 9th Apr 2009 10:33

Just heard that 8 FE´s and 7 FO´s are joining SV in May - guess it´s time to dedust alle the CBT´s on the rock. Good news for line trainers.

mutt 9th Apr 2009 14:09

Good for them :):):)

SV Lesson #1: Forget that you ever flew a B747 before :)

Mutt

Paladini 9th Apr 2009 14:50

Hey Mutt.....

Was that comment directed at the guys "upgrading" to real jobs at SV or for the newbies taking their places with AAI?

Ya gotta wonder!

Podunk 9th Apr 2009 17:03

Znote, how could that possibly be good news for the line trainers?

It would just mean a fresh batch of snot-nosed, white-rubber booted, Ice-kids off the trawlers with 4oo hours TT.

jumbolloyd 10th Apr 2009 06:52

Good news and good luck to the guys joining SV and getting out of that quagmire AAI :ok:, I hope none of the codheads got a look in, as they are useless and only function when surounded by their own kind, anyway no one in their right mind would offer anyone 2 weks on and 4 weeks off as part of a contract.:rolleyes:

Yobbo 10th Apr 2009 13:19

Does anyone know if any Capts. are among the new hires with SV? It would be nice to see AAI scrambling for several productive... replacement crews.

Kato747 10th Apr 2009 13:25

Heard they were not recruiting for Captains this round.

THX for the PM, Mutt... answered my Q ! Age is correct, perhaps the reason. :{

edited to include ..............: Confirmed..... several very highly qualified "Sith Ifrican" F/E's did not get interview invitations due to being over 55.

Hope SVA changes to align with FAA age-65 regs soon.

screwballburling 17th Apr 2009 14:10

An outfit in the UK advertising for B747 classic crews. UK residence only. Now is your chance to get off a sinking ship.

Kato747 17th Apr 2009 15:00

Well, as of 15 April......

Fresh"ish" from the rock.........

There is currently no plan to rehire ANY of the ex-pat crewmembers who were "Terminated " in the January Putsch.

Crew Planning has been rotating some of those who were sent home on ULV but no recall is planned.

Any rehiring/recall will be only for those with 744 rating because AAI is doing all they can to replace the Classics with the 744.

:bored:

Looks like a large number of FIA "dues paying crewmembers" ... the Icelandic Flight Engineers.....have been wasting their time. .... Unless, of course, they wish to finish their pilot's licenses or become Cabin Attendants.

As they say... "Oh Dear, this will only end in tears."

Paladini 18th Apr 2009 19:03

SCREW............ling

Where did you see an ad for Classic crews?? In the UK or otherwise.

screwballburling 19th Apr 2009 05:14

Orange background.

Yobbo 2nd May 2009 12:52

I hear that the MAS contract will not be renewed and Saudi contract is hanging by a thread. Can anyone confirm this?

cp35 2nd May 2009 23:06

That sounds like a reasonable assesment.

jumbolloyd 3rd May 2009 07:19

Yes I heard this the other week speaking to a friend in K.L. who was at a gathering there where this was mentioned to my friend.

It seems that the contract will not be renewed, as AAI does not it seems have made any effort to protect its position or has any idea how to do business in Asia except of the same stupid codhead mentality of shooting the messengers.

Until a couple of years ago Oli Smith before his death was the station manager, who knew exactly how to look after the goose that was laying the golden eggs and ability on how to deal with Asians.

The new station manager is as skilled as the one in JED in being able to line their own pockets with the spoils with great skill, greed and corruption...after all of the same ilk.

Its a pity, they just don't get it, they just rape and corrupt everything they touch and then its to late, I also hear there is a couple or so classics parked in JB waiting to pounce on an opportunity.

Same outfit that got some Hajj work this last one passed as somehow AAI screwed that up also, figures so its down to SV, yep I believe it would be hanging by a thin thread what else.:sad:

Paladini 9th May 2009 10:10

Sorry if this is old news...it's new to me...

Is it true the Icelandics are now getting $255 perdiem? That's a damned fine payrise at the expense of all the ex-pat crews they let go !

That's more per day than I was making as an F/O in year 4!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys oughta be ashamed.....................

Nightcargo 9th May 2009 13:52

Haha bunch of w*****s
 
Ive been sitting here and laughing at your comments.
First of all there is not one single truth in any of your comments on this forum.
It is obvious that you have to much time off. Your imagination is running your lifes. I happen to be a Icelander and you call us all kind of names.
If we are so bad and treat you badly. Turn in your validations if you dont have a proper licence and work in your own country. There are people lined up to take over your positions. I dont know any european country who is so kind to you non europeans and give you validations year after year. Why are U still here? Its because nobody else wants you.

Get a life.

Paladini 9th May 2009 14:40

Oh, PLEASE excuse me Nightcargo, my last post was posed as a question, or don't you understand European and American punctuation? This lttle fella (?) at the end of a sentence denotes an interrogative (that's asking a question, fool.)

FYI, "this" particular non-Icelander has NEVER used a vallidation from the ICAA.... never needed to, I have a real license, as well as the JAR. You seem to think that all non-CODs are from the US or Canada. Do you understand the term Wan_ ker?

A lot of very professional pilots and F/Es were released in January, Guys who, even you will have to admit (if you're honest) YOU have learned MUCH from, so don't take a haughty tone. Good people are on the street because of your UNION. They have a life, it's just a bit harder to pay for essentials now. Don't expect a large positive reaction to recalls when the ICAA realizes you cant run the business without ex-pats.

Perhaps, Helgi & Hannes should change the name of the company to FIAir Atlanta? Oops, there it (?) is again, certainly would not wish to confuse you as well.

Nightcargo 9th May 2009 15:46

Paladini you need a life.
 
There is a treatment for this.

Take a vacation. It is a good start.
Also if you are not happy go somewhere else.
If you are one of those fired or failed the sim. Get a life.
Thats what normal people do.

doubleu-anker 10th May 2009 07:20

Night Cargo

I have just hooked a piece of cod!

Validations. Well it just proves the Icelandic CAA are in the pocket of AAI. The validation system has been abused for years by these outfits, with continued employment of individuals who are incapable of getting the licence or too damned lazy.

Failed the simulator? Don'T you mean crashed the sim, like a local "Captain" managed to do twice I am reliability informed, in one session? (Question) Let me repeat. He did not FAIL the sim, he simply CRASHED it, twice! That said, AAI can be very thankful they operate Boeing A/C for e.g., as anything else less forgiving, would have resulted in at least one bad crash.

"If it ain't Boeing, then I'm not going"

Nightcargo 10th May 2009 13:30

Boring Boring Boring.
 
Reliable sources??????????

Read the forum.

To many negative people around.

znote6224w 22nd May 2009 18:32

Give this outfit a mail : www.alwafeeair.com. It´s a start-up but contracts have already been signed and aircraft shoud arrive in time for the forthcomming HAJJ and from what I hear they will be the final nail in the AAI coffin and might even help them fianacing brand new fishing boats. Life away from AAI is fantastic.

dsp1285 23rd May 2009 16:35

alwafeeair link not working....

Paladini 23rd May 2009 17:08

try emailing them at [email protected] or try Alwafeer Air Homepage or try one of the three or more threads talking about Al Wafeer

good luck in getting an answer:ugh:

mutt 24th May 2009 06:16


what I hear they will be the final nail in the AAI coffin
Whats the connection with AAI? Why do you think that they will have an impact on their operations?

Mutt

Metro man 24th May 2009 07:46

Try this link Alwafeer Air Homepage

Paladini 30th May 2009 16:16

Mutt, I think Znote was referring to the impending loss of non-SV Hadj contracts flown by AAI. AAI is trying to switch to an all -400 fleet, with exception of the cargo ops.

Last year, Garuda refused to accept TF-ARS, a -300, due to the fact the cabin fixtures are unsuitable for transport of humans. So AAI had NO aircraft for the Indonesian Hadj. They operated a few aircraft for SV into Jakarta but nothing for Garuda. As far as I know, that aircraft is still mouldering away in Merana, and is unlikely to be accepted anywhere except Africa.

Al Wafeer Air will probably not be a "nail-in-the coffin" so to speak, but unless AAI sharpens up their act, they will find it difficult to operate from anywhere except Saudi Arabia and Nigeria. Garuda drew the line on QUALITY ... AAI is still ignoring there is a problem.

oceancrosser 30th May 2009 16:47


Garuda drew the line on QUALITY ...
Now there is a cause for a grin... :}

Atlanta-Driver 31st May 2009 19:17

You will find that ARS ended up being toasted in DAC a few years back so it would not have been available for last hajj season, unless one wanted to fly on a wing and a half and 3 engines.


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