BA f/os Wanting GSS commands
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Lord_Flasshart
After serving Queen and Country and being decorated many times it is certainly my right to a BA command
God help us I even have to fly with ex- cadet entry captains on the 747-400 now.
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On the contrary I am not here as a "wind up". I stopped posting on this site a couple of years ago because people in the BA section could not see the right way to deal with ex forces pilots. As the cream of UK aviation we should not be forced into humiliation by wearing 2 stripes or sitting at the bottom of the seniority list.
All ex forces entry pilots should have at least year for year for there time served or at least 0.75 of a year per year time served. that way we could have our rightful positions sooner.
Lord Flashhart
All ex forces entry pilots should have at least year for year for there time served or at least 0.75 of a year per year time served. that way we could have our rightful positions sooner.
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As the cream of UK aviation we should not be forced into humiliation by wearing 2 stripes or sitting at the bottom of the seniority list.
Quite right. Now tell me about when your were on Lightnings again, I love those stories. And don't forget to be rude to the purser.
Quite right. Now tell me about when your were on Lightnings again, I love those stories. And don't forget to be rude to the purser.
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Flash,
By the tone of your comments on this thread I would suggest that you are not yet ready mentally for a command.
What's it they say floats on the top of the cream?
If you don't want the humiliation of wearing two stripes I know of plenty of people, just as able as you, who will swop places with you.
Perhaps the saying "get your knees brown" applies to you?
GROW UP SONNY!!!!
MP
By the tone of your comments on this thread I would suggest that you are not yet ready mentally for a command.
What's it they say floats on the top of the cream?
If you don't want the humiliation of wearing two stripes I know of plenty of people, just as able as you, who will swop places with you.
Perhaps the saying "get your knees brown" applies to you?
GROW UP SONNY!!!!
MP
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As a BA frequent flyer I have no objection to four ring ex-service pilots - I do have an objection to you though. BA is not the national carrier any more, and thus owes ex-service personnel the same as pilots transferring from any other carrier besides HM Flying Club.
If such privilege led to higher fares or disruption due strikes from the p!ssed off non-ex-service pilots, I and others would be forced to take our business elsewhere, and Rod E doesn't need help doing that!
As a BA frequent flyer I have no objection to four ring ex-service pilots - I do have an objection to you though. BA is not the national carrier any more, and thus owes ex-service personnel the same as pilots transferring from any other carrier besides HM Flying Club.
If such privilege led to higher fares or disruption due strikes from the p!ssed off non-ex-service pilots, I and others would be forced to take our business elsewhere, and Rod E doesn't need help doing that!
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Flash,
I really thought that your posting was a wind up - clearly I was wrong and that changes my view of you.
You are a disgrace to your fellow ex service pilots who just get on with the job. You should be ashamed of yourself. What's more important to you, being a professional or the number of stripes you have?
As for seniority based on service time, well, how about a national seniority based on date of gaining a PROFESSIONAL licence, or would that not suit your ambitions either?
As has been suggested, it seems that you are not mature enough to hold a BA command. If you think that doesn't matter, then have a read of the OTM - it specifically states that you must be considered technically suitable and mature enough to hold a command. You clearly are not. I pity the guys with which you fly - not so much the Captains because THEY ARE the captain NOT YOU, but the other F/O's must hate you. And with people like you about no wonder the cabin crew think we are all a bunch of tossers.
Flash, i do not think that you are suitable to hold a command. I am not too certain that you should be in the right seat either (so at least we agree on something)
Grow up sonny and ditch the attitude or get out of flying.
I really thought that your posting was a wind up - clearly I was wrong and that changes my view of you.
You are a disgrace to your fellow ex service pilots who just get on with the job. You should be ashamed of yourself. What's more important to you, being a professional or the number of stripes you have?
As for seniority based on service time, well, how about a national seniority based on date of gaining a PROFESSIONAL licence, or would that not suit your ambitions either?
As has been suggested, it seems that you are not mature enough to hold a BA command. If you think that doesn't matter, then have a read of the OTM - it specifically states that you must be considered technically suitable and mature enough to hold a command. You clearly are not. I pity the guys with which you fly - not so much the Captains because THEY ARE the captain NOT YOU, but the other F/O's must hate you. And with people like you about no wonder the cabin crew think we are all a bunch of tossers.
Flash, i do not think that you are suitable to hold a command. I am not too certain that you should be in the right seat either (so at least we agree on something)
Grow up sonny and ditch the attitude or get out of flying.
I have been thinking about L337's comments. I can immediately think of three ex-RAF Wg Cdrs that I have flown with. All of them started in the right seat, were excellent pilots, good company and extremely kind to the ladies.
They all subsequently became good captains and bore no resemblance whatsoever to the pillock who has just thrown his toys out of his pram and fled this discussion in a fit of childish pique.
I assume that since he reckons he deserves a command with GSS that he must currently be a Nigel? If so, it doesn't say much for your selection procedure does it?
He can't spell puerile either!
They all subsequently became good captains and bore no resemblance whatsoever to the pillock who has just thrown his toys out of his pram and fled this discussion in a fit of childish pique.
I assume that since he reckons he deserves a command with GSS that he must currently be a Nigel? If so, it doesn't say much for your selection procedure does it?
He can't spell puerile either!
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I read earlier in this post:
"seriously though, ALL of us at BA would far rather get ALL of the BA work back into BA, AND get you all onto the BA seniority list.
This was offered to BAcitiexpress pilots, but there BALPA company council told us to get stuffed - their loss".
I think this is stretching the truth a bit, I can't see that the BA CitiExpress pilots would have been allowed on to th BA SENIORITY list, after all they(CitiExpress) are second rate citizens!
"seriously though, ALL of us at BA would far rather get ALL of the BA work back into BA, AND get you all onto the BA seniority list.
This was offered to BAcitiexpress pilots, but there BALPA company council told us to get stuffed - their loss".
I think this is stretching the truth a bit, I can't see that the BA CitiExpress pilots would have been allowed on to th BA SENIORITY list, after all they(CitiExpress) are second rate citizens!
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BACX RJ pilots were offered a place at the bottom of the BA seniority list as per City Flyer. They turned this down. My understanding was it was to be offered only to the RJ guys and not the turboprop guys.
They held out for the lot and ended with nothing..their choice.
Bit like GSS. Some in BA want all the commands. BALPA have said this is unrealistic and to accept the deal, ie take what we've got and don't end up with nothing a la BACX
NN
They held out for the lot and ended with nothing..their choice.
Bit like GSS. Some in BA want all the commands. BALPA have said this is unrealistic and to accept the deal, ie take what we've got and don't end up with nothing a la BACX
NN
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JW411 - I think most observers of this thread can spot that Flash isn't really a BA pilot, he's a wind up merchant - and a good one to boot. The fact that there are very few characters resembling him in BA and most of them joined 10+ years ago suggests to me the selection procedure is rather good for the remaining 99% of BA pilots.
bral - BACX is losing money hand over fist, and thats got nothing to do with BA mainline pilots. Unless you count TDLF.
pilotatlast - thats exactly what they were offered, but turned it down. I'm told they were hanging on for merged seniority based on BACX date of joining.
bral - BACX is losing money hand over fist, and thats got nothing to do with BA mainline pilots. Unless you count TDLF.
pilotatlast - thats exactly what they were offered, but turned it down. I'm told they were hanging on for merged seniority based on BACX date of joining.