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Old 17th December 2023 | 06:39
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Originally Posted by Scorpape
Anyone with a Malta Air contract able to share what the net pay is for SFO and CPT ? Thank you!
depends on the country. Malta air is just an AOC. Each country has their own CLA.
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Old 17th December 2023 | 07:06
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Originally Posted by Lazyturtle
depends on the country. Malta air is just an AOC. Each country has their own CLA.
Yes of course, I am aware of that. If anyone with a french, Italian or German MAY contract could share the figures
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Old 17th December 2023 | 20:24
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Ryanair is a business, the prime role being to provide transport and make money, I'm not sure career development or dream fulfilment is high on their priority list, but job security is part of the package.
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Old 18th December 2023 | 11:00
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Originally Posted by rotorwills
As you represent Ryanair I shall say that you and IamRyanAir indicate that salary levels that are constructed with inflated add ons. Anyone who has grey matter can see that they are misleading. However the really big statement that training is flourishing is erroneous. Ryanair has a lack of training staff and no command upgrades being run as well as none planned. The recruitment is solely focused on skippers. DEC is priority. Please don't not accuse me of rumour spreading I am just pointing out the facts of the matter. I am in training and are in contact with many working in my field spread over many airlines in Europe. I have time for RyanAir and believe they provide great avenues for prospective aviation people, but let's no pretend they have terms and conditions which are competitive. Ryanair provide a route and good luck to all who chose it. It's not for every one but it's a route all the same.
What add ons are you referring to? Salaries can easily be checked with current crew. You are spreading rumours including the fact that there are no command upgrades which is simply not true. I don't represent RYR... IamRyanair seems a legit account and the info they have provided seem correct
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Old 19th December 2023 | 07:23
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i am based in Italy but the numbers is correct, however the voting over the new (UK) deal should finish today. That would make a non-training Captain on 157800£ yearly.

the other countries are still in negotiations…
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Old 25th December 2023 | 20:46
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Figures on PPJN are accurate as per new addendum to the CLA voted through.
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Old 30th December 2023 | 17:15
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Can anybody advise what the salary structure is after completing the cadet TR programme? I understand salary is underwhelming initially, but increases after Line Training. I cannot find any consolidates info on initial salary, then increases after hitting milestones such as line check, hour mile stones and month milestones (if any). Say this is for a EASA licence only, UK base in case of any differences
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Old 17th January 2024 | 15:24
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I would be interested whether anyone else is in the same situation; I completed my TR several weeks ago and still waiting to be assigned somewhere for line training. Any idea on current waiting times? Thanks!
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Old 17th January 2024 | 20:46
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Originally Posted by VeeeOne
I would be interested whether anyone else is in the same situation; I completed my TR several weeks ago and still waiting to be assigned somewhere for line training. Any idea on current waiting times? Thanks!
When did you have your max diff training?
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Old 18th January 2024 | 12:45
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Originally Posted by VeeeOne
I would be interested whether anyone else is in the same situation; I completed my TR several weeks ago and still waiting to be assigned somewhere for line training. Any idea on current waiting times? Thanks!
Many people in the same situation yes, problem is the lack of LTC and the fact they maxed the hours before the end of the year 2023 and had to take some annual leaves. It should improve soon but the pipes are clogged by all the cadets waiting.
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Old 18th January 2024 | 12:51
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Originally Posted by Golfss
Can anybody advise what the salary structure is after completing the cadet TR programme? I understand salary is underwhelming initially, but increases after Line Training. I cannot find any consolidates info on initial salary, then increases after hitting milestones such as line check, hour mile stones and month milestones (if any). Say this is for a EASA licence only, UK base in case of any differences
After your initial Line check you will receive a new contract that will determine your new permanent base, type of employment and payscale. Lots of different scenarios possible and various pays depending on your country and tax system.

Before 500h expect around 3000€
Between 500h and 1500h anything between 3000 and 6000€
Above 1500h add between 500 and 1000€ on top of that.
Very hard to give correct figures but you get the idea
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Old 19th January 2024 | 10:15
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Originally Posted by VeeeOne
I would be interested whether anyone else is in the same situation; I completed my TR several weeks ago and still waiting to be assigned somewhere for line training. Any idea on current waiting times? Thanks!
I'm also waiting for base to do the LT, just out of curiosity what base did you ask for? I understand that plays a role in how long you wait since there are bases with enough LTC's whilst most bases don't
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Old 21st January 2024 | 15:17
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I completed my Max differences training at the beginning of this month. I asked for any base in the UK (No preference). How long have you been waiting since completion of the Max Differences sim?
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Old 30th January 2024 | 12:15
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I was listening to Mark Duffy on a podcast about hiring pilots in Brasil. I was surprised when he mentioned the immense numbers of recruited pilots this year compared to the total pilot population.


7000 total RYR pilots
2500 hired pilots this year. Whereoff 1300 cadets.

That is 35% of the entire RYR pilot population which was hired last year. What a crazy pilot overturn at the moment.

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Old 31st January 2024 | 09:08
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Originally Posted by VeeeOne
I completed my Max differences training at the beginning of this month. I asked for any base in the UK (No preference). How long have you been waiting since completion of the Max Differences sim?
not too long mate, i just did the Base training 1 week ago! Hope you get called soon. From what i hear its between 2-3 months from the day you have your lst. This is all dependant on several things though
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Old 31st January 2024 | 11:44
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Originally Posted by ptflying
not too long mate, i just did the Base training 1 week ago! Hope you get called soon. From what i hear it’s between 2-3 months from the day you have your lst. This is all dependant on several things though

so are you literally just sat on pay (I.e the AFA 16.8k) doing nothing whilst you wait for line training?
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Old 31st January 2024 | 21:13
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From: lyon
Originally Posted by Singapore777
so are you literally just sat on pay (I.e the AFA 16.8k) doing nothing whilst you wait for line training?
Yes we are...
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Old 1st February 2024 | 07:22
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Originally Posted by oiatic
Yes we are...
that’s remarkable. Staff on pay doing nothing.. that surely keeps MOL up at night.

does base training have to be done by a certain point after the LST? I.e they couldn’t delay BT until they were ready for your LT to avoid having to pay you for a few months to do nada
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Old 2nd February 2024 | 10:37
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From: France
Originally Posted by Singapore777
that’s remarkable. Staff on pay doing nothing.. that surely keeps MOL up at night.

does base training have to be done by a certain point after the LST? I.e they couldn’t delay BT until they were ready for your LT to avoid having to pay you for a few months to do nada
I might be incorrect, but I believe it's 21days
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Old 4th February 2024 | 10:31
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From: portugal
Originally Posted by Golfss
Can anybody advise what the salary structure is after completing the cadet TR programme? I understand salary is underwhelming initially, but increases after Line Training. I cannot find any consolidates info on initial salary, then increases after hitting milestones such as line check, hour mile stones and month milestones (if any). Say this is for a EASA licence only, UK base in case of any differences
Everything will be written on your contract
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