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Don’t have to, already a captain for one of the majors, making 3 x that of Norse! And working 12-14 days per month! My point here is that Europe and the US have become two different worlds! European pilot unions, if the airline even have one, have no power anymore! When pilots in Europe are willing to fly for food, well, that’s what you get then!
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Don’t have to, already a captain for one of the majors, making 3 x that of Norse! And working 12-14 days per month! My point here is that Europe and the US have become two different worlds! European pilot unions, if the airline even have one, have no power anymore! When pilots in Europe are willing to fly for food, well, that’s what you get then!
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The basic premise that US Unions have protected their workforce far better though is absolutely correct prima facie but it’s also an apples and pears argument because it’s a vastly different market in Europe, far more easily undermined.
Last edited by RexBanner; 7th Aug 2023 at 07:57.
“Ex., BA senior Captain pay in 1990 was 120k, in today’s money that’s 268k. They may be able to make 150k today!”
Well, I retired over three years ago as a 22-year LH Captain, (so not the most senior pay-point), and my BASIC salary was 180,000 GBP, so you need to check your figures. Not that I really care.
There’s more to life than money, though I’d be the first to admit it’s important.
Well, I retired over three years ago as a 22-year LH Captain, (so not the most senior pay-point), and my BASIC salary was 180,000 GBP, so you need to check your figures. Not that I really care.
There’s more to life than money, though I’d be the first to admit it’s important.
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Hello, can anyone let me know what it is like to work for Norse as a pilot. Could you give an insight with regards to Rosters out of Gatwick, like trips per month, days off to expect and what sort of standby coverage they employ i.e time to call out?
Also when down route what kind of hotel does Norse provide.
I also hear that they are looking at commuting rosters. Is there any info as to what that may look like?
Many thanks if anyone can answer those for me.
Also when down route what kind of hotel does Norse provide.
I also hear that they are looking at commuting rosters. Is there any info as to what that may look like?
Many thanks if anyone can answer those for me.
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Anyone received a similar mail after the initial interview with the psycologist? Good or bad!? We hope you are doing fine.
Due to various different circumstances, we have to postpone your assessment process with Norse Atlantic Airways. Due to planning and resources, the decision has been made to continue the recruitment at a later stage. This is complete our fault, from our planning and we are sorry for any inconvenience.
You will be kept on file, we will keep you updated and will invite you again when next opportunity arise.
We wish and hope for your understanding and we look forward to meet you in the near future.
Kind Regards
Team Norse
Due to various different circumstances, we have to postpone your assessment process with Norse Atlantic Airways. Due to planning and resources, the decision has been made to continue the recruitment at a later stage. This is complete our fault, from our planning and we are sorry for any inconvenience.
You will be kept on file, we will keep you updated and will invite you again when next opportunity arise.
We wish and hope for your understanding and we look forward to meet you in the near future.
Kind Regards
Team Norse
Am a Norseman. So, you will probably hear from Norse shortly, recruitment will start imminently for next year. FO's and possibly a sprinkling DECs.
2 AOCs, UK and Norway. Bases LGW,CDG and Oslo.
UK will prob have most expansion, although nothing is firm yet, all leased out aircraft coming back, is the plan. (15 total)
During the ramp up, it has been full on, for most of us. Rosters are tight with the ramp up, and training backlog, although we are guaranteed 11 days off. It is a commuting friendly airline, though rosters do need to improve to facilitate this fully. Trainers are flat out, and not happy, but that is standard at a lot of airlines.
Overtime is paid >70 hrs. and most are doing 85+ at the moment, which should ease off in the winter.
Quite a lot of commands this winter, internally. Which is great.
Typically 3-4 trips per month, but can be 5, depends east or west coast US trips ya get. West coast is 3 crew, and MIA/FLL, as well. We hoping to get MCO to 3 crew as well. But what other companies do, on that route may well dictate what happens. W patterns, are a thing at Norse. You can opt in or out. You go on a trip, back to LGW, hotel, and out next day on another trip. Productive 5-6 days. Some like, some don't.... Standbys, in theory 90 mins from call out. Never been called out yet, it does happen. Next CBA union, hoping to change this. Also reserves, where they have to give you 10 or 20 hours notice of a duty change.
BALPA council, and Norse have a great working relationship, its not all perfect, but to be honest, in all my time, is pretty good, and collaborative. Norway unions, I can't comment on. But seems ok, from what I know. A new CBA is being worked on, and hopefully will be ready by years end. Lots of improvements sought.
Load factors have been great this summer, on routes. Company in profit. As with most new companies, some teething issues, but the motivation is to get things right.
PM me if you have questions.
EGGW.
2 AOCs, UK and Norway. Bases LGW,CDG and Oslo.
UK will prob have most expansion, although nothing is firm yet, all leased out aircraft coming back, is the plan. (15 total)
During the ramp up, it has been full on, for most of us. Rosters are tight with the ramp up, and training backlog, although we are guaranteed 11 days off. It is a commuting friendly airline, though rosters do need to improve to facilitate this fully. Trainers are flat out, and not happy, but that is standard at a lot of airlines.
Overtime is paid >70 hrs. and most are doing 85+ at the moment, which should ease off in the winter.
Quite a lot of commands this winter, internally. Which is great.
Typically 3-4 trips per month, but can be 5, depends east or west coast US trips ya get. West coast is 3 crew, and MIA/FLL, as well. We hoping to get MCO to 3 crew as well. But what other companies do, on that route may well dictate what happens. W patterns, are a thing at Norse. You can opt in or out. You go on a trip, back to LGW, hotel, and out next day on another trip. Productive 5-6 days. Some like, some don't.... Standbys, in theory 90 mins from call out. Never been called out yet, it does happen. Next CBA union, hoping to change this. Also reserves, where they have to give you 10 or 20 hours notice of a duty change.
BALPA council, and Norse have a great working relationship, its not all perfect, but to be honest, in all my time, is pretty good, and collaborative. Norway unions, I can't comment on. But seems ok, from what I know. A new CBA is being worked on, and hopefully will be ready by years end. Lots of improvements sought.
Load factors have been great this summer, on routes. Company in profit. As with most new companies, some teething issues, but the motivation is to get things right.
PM me if you have questions.
EGGW.
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Am a Norseman. So, you will probably hear from Norse shortly, recruitment will start imminently for next year. FO's and possibly a sprinkling DECs.
2 AOCs, UK and Norway. Bases LGW,CDG and Oslo.
UK will prob have most expansion, although nothing is firm yet, all leased out aircraft coming back, is the plan. (15 total)
During the ramp up, it has been full on, for most of us. Rosters are tight with the ramp up, and training backlog, although we are guaranteed 11 days off. It is a commuting friendly airline, though rosters do need to improve to facilitate this fully. Trainers are flat out, and not happy, but that is standard at a lot of airlines.
Overtime is paid >70 hrs. and most are doing 85+ at the moment, which should ease off in the winter.
Quite a lot of commands this winter, internally. Which is great.
Typically 3-4 trips per month, but can be 5, depends east or west coast US trips ya get. West coast is 3 crew, and MIA/FLL, as well. We hoping to get MCO to 3 crew as well. But what other companies do, on that route may well dictate what happens. W patterns, are a thing at Norse. You can opt in or out. You go on a trip, back to LGW, hotel, and out next day on another trip. Productive 5-6 days. Some like, some don't.... Standbys, in theory 90 mins from call out. Never been called out yet, it does happen. Next CBA union, hoping to change this. Also reserves, where they have to give you 10 or 20 hours notice of a duty change.
BALPA council, and Norse have a great working relationship, its not all perfect, but to be honest, in all my time, is pretty good, and collaborative. Norway unions, I can't comment on. But seems ok, from what I know. A new CBA is being worked on, and hopefully will be ready by years end. Lots of improvements sought.
Load factors have been great this summer, on routes. Company in profit. As with most new companies, some teething issues, but the motivation is to get things right.
PM me if you have questions.
EGGW.
2 AOCs, UK and Norway. Bases LGW,CDG and Oslo.
UK will prob have most expansion, although nothing is firm yet, all leased out aircraft coming back, is the plan. (15 total)
During the ramp up, it has been full on, for most of us. Rosters are tight with the ramp up, and training backlog, although we are guaranteed 11 days off. It is a commuting friendly airline, though rosters do need to improve to facilitate this fully. Trainers are flat out, and not happy, but that is standard at a lot of airlines.
Overtime is paid >70 hrs. and most are doing 85+ at the moment, which should ease off in the winter.
Quite a lot of commands this winter, internally. Which is great.
Typically 3-4 trips per month, but can be 5, depends east or west coast US trips ya get. West coast is 3 crew, and MIA/FLL, as well. We hoping to get MCO to 3 crew as well. But what other companies do, on that route may well dictate what happens. W patterns, are a thing at Norse. You can opt in or out. You go on a trip, back to LGW, hotel, and out next day on another trip. Productive 5-6 days. Some like, some don't.... Standbys, in theory 90 mins from call out. Never been called out yet, it does happen. Next CBA union, hoping to change this. Also reserves, where they have to give you 10 or 20 hours notice of a duty change.
BALPA council, and Norse have a great working relationship, its not all perfect, but to be honest, in all my time, is pretty good, and collaborative. Norway unions, I can't comment on. But seems ok, from what I know. A new CBA is being worked on, and hopefully will be ready by years end. Lots of improvements sought.
Load factors have been great this summer, on routes. Company in profit. As with most new companies, some teething issues, but the motivation is to get things right.
PM me if you have questions.
EGGW.