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Old 17th Nov 2023, 15:03
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Well the net debt of Wizz is pretty substantial as well. Cash is only one part of the equation
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Old 18th Nov 2023, 03:40
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Are the same as RYR in so much as pay for own uniform , car park , food , medical , revalidations
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Old 18th Nov 2023, 12:36
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I have not paid for my uniform.
I have not paid for my car park; the company looks after that.
Crew meal could be better in some bases.
Medical and revalidations are refunded and pilots don't need to move their licenses to a specific authority.
During type rating, induction and line training hotac and transportation was provided.

It could be a better workplace, but don't come here to spread false information as you have just done.
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Old 18th Nov 2023, 14:07
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Originally Posted by enzino
I have not paid for my uniform.
I have not paid for my car park; the company looks after that.
Crew meal could be better in some bases.
Medical and revalidations are refunded and pilots don't need to move their licenses to a specific authority.
During type rating, induction and line training hotac and transportation was provided.

It could be a better workplace, but don't come here to spread false information as you have just done.
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Thanks for your aggressive reply . I got autocorrected - " Are they the same as ryanair " is what my post meant to say .

I am comparing the two
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Old 18th Nov 2023, 14:29
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In that case I owe you an apology. Everything is provided by them. Hotel quality in Budapest tend to be good as long as you are not put in some Ibis.
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Old 18th Nov 2023, 15:13
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Originally Posted by enzino
In that case I owe you an apology. Everything is provided by them. Hotel quality in Budapest tend to be good as long as you are not put in some Ibis.
No problem .
Actually sounds better than RYR these days . the quoted 5/4 seems to be 1 rest and 3 off so that's a bit of a fudge .

But ryr 5/4 is not contractual i don't believe so couid be changed in a heartbeat
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Old 18th Nov 2023, 21:45
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Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA
No problem .
Actually sounds better than RYR these days . the quoted 5/4 seems to be 1 rest and 3 off so that's a bit of a fudge .

But ryr 5/4 is not contractual i don't believe so couid be changed in a heartbeat
WUK had 5/4 a couple of years ago, so it's already been removed in a heartbeat ("thank you for your understanding"). Also, I believe I saw it's only for 9 months a year, and the other 3 months are 'flexible' - which completely undoes a lot of the attraction of the RYR style 5/4 roster where you know what you are doing for evermore.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 21:54
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But of course none of these roster patterns are in the contract for some of these airlines, so you are at their mercy

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Old 21st Nov 2023, 01:08
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It is contractual in easyJet, and most likely in other companies as well.
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Old 21st Nov 2023, 04:05
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Originally Posted by dirk85
It is contractual in easyJet, and most likely in other companies as well.
interesting , that they commmit to that
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 07:56
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Forced Unpaid Leave and Part time coming after winter peak. 30% of the fleet is down with NEO engine issues
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 08:19
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Is it in the contract that they can do that ?
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 12:47
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Forced Unpaid Leave and Part time coming after winter peak. 30% of the fleet is down with NEO engine issues
They haven't said forced as far as I remember.
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 14:29
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They haven't said forced as far as I remember.
well , voluntary and forced unpaid leave are very different things .
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 18:34
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How big of an impact is the NEO engines issue going to be on pilots (specially those who are brand new CPLs)? Will it significantly halt or diminish hiring, or lower Terms and Conditions?
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You can expect hiring to almost come to a halt. They still some need captains, but the majority of upgrades will be internal.

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Old 29th Nov 2023, 01:35
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Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA
Is it in the contract that they can do that ?
It is in their manuals, however they threw everything away in COVID and just did what they wanted to staff.

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well , voluntary and forced unpaid leave are very different things .
I expect it to be done in the wizz way, for efficiency they will volunteer you for whatever they deem necessary, if you donít like it you can always leave.

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How big of an impact is the NEO engines issue going to be on pilots (specially those who are brand new CPLs)? Will it significantly halt or diminish hiring, or lower Terms and Conditions?
Most likely a slow down in cadet level hiring, theyíre still desperate for DEC. Iím not sure theyíll drop the T&Cís overall, just use volunteered part time and UPL for their savings
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 07:13
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Originally Posted by Prob30Tempo TSRA
No problem .
Actually sounds better than RYR these days . the quoted 5/4 seems to be 1 rest and 3 off so that's a bit of a fudge .

But ryr 5/4 is not contractual i don't believe so couid be changed in a heartbeat

Clearly a lot of guessing from your side, so why spread false information? Its written black on white on my employment contract just so people can compare oranges with oranges without wrong information.
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 18:24
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Clearly a lot of guessing from your side, so why spread false information? Its written black on white on my employment contract just so people can compare oranges with oranges without wrong information.
Iím not spreading anything . Iím comparing jobs . RYR contract ( Iím told ) doesnít mention roster pattern .
Wizz info from ppjn. 4 off - 1 rest and 3 off .

Whether thats true I have no idea but I have nothing more to go on .

I work for neither of them
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 21:23
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Originally Posted by enzino
You can expect hiring to almost come to a halt. They still some need captains, but the majority of upgrades will be internal.
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It is in their manuals, however they threw everything away in COVID and just did what they wanted to staff.



I expect it to be done in the wizz way, for efficiency they will volunteer you for whatever they deem necessary, if you donít like it you can always leave.



Most likely a slow down in cadet level hiring, theyíre still desperate for DEC. Iím not sure theyíll drop the T&Cís overall, just use volunteered part time and UPL for their savings
Sorry for being clueless. But has it already started? And I guess this is not only going to affect Wizzair, right? I imagine Ryanair that has 737s will be fine, but Iberia, Vueling, Eurowings, etc will also be affected, no?
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