Wizzair

[FlightDetent]

Funny the larger ACMI players have summer contracts almost fully booked, who's gonna help Wizz this year?

#therewasanattempt To run an airline without crews.

[PilotLZ]

Originally Posted by My Rifle and I

Wizzair fail 85% of all applicants so it's little wonder they are losing money at this rate.

Has the assessment pass rate gone even further down? Last year, it was about 25-30% on account of a few people who attended. Surely it's a massive waste of resources to screen this many people in person if you only intend to hire a small number. Some form of online pre-screening could save lots of men-hours to the company and spare many candidates the expenses of going to BUD only to find out that they didn't make it.

[Giuff]

Short on crew basically everywhere.
Its going to be a fun summer...

[Sms320]

Anyone who’s attending upcoming recruitment event in the month of May at Budapest can DM me!!
Thanks!!

[BarryMG]

Originally Posted by PilotLZ

Has the assessment pass rate gone even further down? Last year, it was about 25-30% on account of a few people who attended. Surely it's a massive waste of resources to screen this many people in person if you only intend to hire a small number. Some form of online pre-screening could save lots of men-hours to the company and spare many candidates the expenses of going to BUD only to find out that they didn't make it.

It's not intentional, that's just the quality of people that apply vs airline requirements (whatever they are).

[nicoli]

It is intentional, before Covid getting in Wizzair was a straight forward process.

It’s surprising that TR candidates accepts to go through the pass rate of a legacy assessment but with the T&C of an ultra low cost.

[YosserHughes]

Does anyone know when they plan on conducting more NTR DEC assessments for positions within the UK?

Thanks

[Vokes55]

Originally Posted by Giuff

Short on crew basically everywhere.
Its going to be a fun summer...

Three people turned up to a recent cabin crew recruitment event at LGW. One didn’t make it through and the other two have turned it down.

[380Mrat]

Type Rated

1) Will a type rated but zero hour on type pilot still be bond free or treated like an NTR candidate?

2) what is the difference in pay between a rated and NTR FO and NTR Captain
3)I One joins as FO due to factorisation of hours limitation how long does it take to get a command upgrade considering normal progress and the rate of induction of the 172 jets you mentioned?

4) After the company presentation meeting , how long a wait before the series of assessment interviews?

5) If so much retrenching of Pilots is taking place why recruit? Why not recondition the bad apples?

Thanks

[​​​​​QUOTE=Giuff;11125985]1. No
2. Normally 1 year but anybody can apply for base transfer from line release

Expect great expansion therefore some time at initial base[/QUOTE]

[londonDriver]

Hello,

does anyone know how many people got to the psychometric tests last Friday/Saturday (April22nd/23rd)?

How long does it take to receive a job offer from Wizzair after the assessment? They said 1/2 weeks but I have heard that sometimes can be a matter of days.

Thanks

[Potatos_69]

1) You will most likely be bonded as a type rating with 0 hours is basically NTR.
2) Substantial difference as it is in most airlines between FO and CPT
3) Factorized hours only apply to hours earnt before WZZ, all WZZ hours are factorised as 1 hour so it depends on how many hours you do per year to reach your 3000 to be eligible.
4) How long is a piece of string? Recruiting like the rest of wizz is chronically understaffed and overworked.
5) Would those pilots want to come back to the absolute mess that it is working for wizz?

2. Base transfer depends on your working rights etc and if the base needs crew. Could be 3 months, could be 3 years, if the base you're at is chronically understaffed could be stuck their permanently.

[380Mrat]

Thank you Potatoes9.

On the rated with zero hours I should have qualified that already rated and experienced on a small inter continental Jet might the situation change?

Previously trained on A320 but expired since 2020 and would have to re do the rating. They might fast track me I would gave thought if treated like another plain NTR FO then not worth the effort and let them bear the burden of training. You would still have to pay 15% upfront and the 30k is bonded over 3 years if already jet experienced otherwise 4 years as I have discovered. On a less active new bade like Abu Dhabi I suppose you would also take longer to upgrade?
Training can be 60-70 sectors, which is ok if you fly short sectors but only.mostly longer sector the training till checkout would take longer and landing pay would also suffer though mileage pay might be good.

[Potatos_69]

Originally Posted by 380Mrat

Thank you Potatoes9.

On the rated with zero hours I should have qualified that already rated and experienced on a small inter continental Jet might the situation change?

Previously trained on A320 but expired since 2020 and would have to re do the rating. They might fast track me I would gave thought if treated like another plain NTR FO then not worth the effort and let them bear the burden of training. You would still have to pay 15% upfront and the 30k is bonded over 3 years if already jet experienced otherwise 4 years as I have discovered. On a less active new bade like Abu Dhabi I suppose you would also take longer to upgrade?
Training can be 60-70 sectors, which is ok if you fly short sectors but only.mostly longer sector the training till checkout would take longer and landing pay would also suffer though mileage pay might be good.

You will enter as NTR with your experience. I’m sure.

Training will probably be 80 sector as well.

You won’t get fast tracked or given any special treatment you will be bonded like everyone else NTR.

There are no upfront costs for the TR with wizz unless you choose that path, it’s normally just bonded with half returned at the end of the bonding period.

Concentrate on getting the job before you start dreaming of fast captain upgrades. You’re just another number and nothing special to them so take it step by step.

[380Mrat]

I understand what you are saying. What you did not know is that I am already a Captain on an intercontinental jet so not looking for any special treatment here, just trying to maintain my rank. It was Wizz Air that suggested the fast track scheme not I, should I join as FO. It is they that also said about paying the 15% up front and no mention of any money returned after the bond period. Perhaps this is a new scheme they are trying now. Are you with them still?

[enzino]

Originally Posted by Potatos_69

There are no upfront costs for the TR with wizz unless you choose that path, it’s normally just bonded with half returned at the end of the bonding period.

Is this still the case? I heard they stopped returning 50% of the bonded amount a few years back.

[Jetliner737]

Assessment day, 30th of May

Hi there, anybody attending the assessment on the 30th of May? 😄

[380Mrat]

30th May Assessments

Any leaks on best online prep lacks for Wizz Air Assessments!

[380Mrat]

Bond

Originally Posted by enzino

Is this still the case? I heard they stopped returning 50% of the bonded amount a few years back.

Apparently so. You now pay 15% and they pay the rest PLUS you get bonded 3 years if jet experienced and 4 years if you have to do a jet conversion course.

[Alloy]

Either way Wizz seem very keen to tie crew up with long bonds and/or longer than normal airline notice periods while having a low basic salary. This all seems to tie in with employers who have employee retention problems for whatever reason.

[380Mrat]

Taking advantage of pilot supply market and pandemic economy

Originally Posted by Alloy

Either way Wizz seem very keen to tie crew up with long bonds and/or longer than normal airline notice periods while having a low basic salary. This all seems to tie in with employers who have employee retention problems for whatever reason.

Apparently yes. Taking advantage. The basic is indeed very low but there is an increase incentive if you work hard(fly more than 70hrs/ month as I reckon it, to make the money or you could end up making only 45% of basic salary if you stick to what was rostered..and on the other hand if you say yes to every extra flight they assign you whether on your off days or leave days you could end up making 150% of basic which by the end your health and certainly family might suffer too. This stick and carrot system in my suspicion has more stick and less carrot. For a beginner hungry to fly and build a foundation it may well be a great chance, but for those already experienced to have to make such sacrifices and on top get paid much lower than say previous premium Airline/Aviation jobs that may not be an easy bridge to cross unless you have long term career development goals on Airbus and you have the age advantage to pursue them.I.magine having to leave a €12000/month with accommodations and crew transport provided for flying a meagre 25-30 hrs/month with oervdiems paid if off base to interesting destinations and finding time to tour them then suddenly immerse yourself in this low basic pay(60% lower) low cost high productivity stick or carrot system punitive system can take a brave heart indeed, especially if you have a family to support. At the end it is a personal choice...unless you have no choice in which case any job becomes attractive in itself for security's sake.