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From: Out of a bag
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From: Runcorn,Cheshire,England
if the theory about increasing salaries is correct then….
not sure the differnant types is a valid arguement though as each new hire is required to complete a course at the new company anyway. Granted previous experience on type “may” be of some benefit, but it’s not a barrier to movement of labour like seniority.
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From: Out of a bag
in that case it’ll be very Intersting to see
if the theory about increasing salaries is correct then….
not sure the differnant types is a valid arguement though as each new hire is required to complete a course at the new company anyway. Granted previous experience on type “may” be of some benefit, but it’s not a barrier to movement of labour like seniority.
if the theory about increasing salaries is correct then….
not sure the differnant types is a valid arguement though as each new hire is required to complete a course at the new company anyway. Granted previous experience on type “may” be of some benefit, but it’s not a barrier to movement of labour like seniority.
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From: Runcorn,Cheshire,England
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From: Oxford
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From: UK
But it’s not really is it? Couple less sims and a few fewer line training flights. Anyway, we’re considering captains that are supposed to be able to move freely from Co to co without starting at the bottom. Surely Captain X is capable of passing a new type DEC course at min cost (read min sectors) as he’s “been a captain for years”.
I made no particular comment about my self worth or feeling of entitlement to join big airlines on PP24.
If that’s how you choose to interpret my post then fair enough, it certainly wasn’t how it was intended though.
I disagree that there is little between a type rating and a full OCC. I have done both. The type rating took over twice as long, and with 3x the sim sessions and 3x the line training sectors. That is huge. If you’re recruiting 200+ pilots in a single season that is a huge training burden!
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From: Whitehall
that’s a shame I agree. It’s frankly hard to imagine how BA/TUI/Virgin have managed to survive with out you. Suggest writing to the DFO @big airways quoting your mates and tell him you’re available for immediate hire onto Pp24 LHS A350 as you’ve “been a Captain for years”.
Let us all know how you get on.
Let us all know how you get on.
See, eg, RAF A330 pilots who have been doing a more demanding job for a third of the money.
It's BALPA/organised labour rather than any special flying talent endowed by staying at BA for 30 years that stops you being replaced by the itinerants above.
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From: Birmingham
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Would you need base training? If you’re not eligible for ZFT then it’s difficult in the summer for any leisure airline to give up an airframe for circuits. So I would imagine that ZFT-able candidates are getting priority in the busy season.
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Another candidate I spoke to was told despite meeting CAA requirements for ZFTT they have, if I remember this correctly, their own internal higher hour requirements exceeding this and as you say couldn’t spare any aircraft at this time of year for base training. I have 2500 hours but haven’t been told either way of require base training or not, I would imagine I would not. Be good to even have an indication of say end of year if plan but believe they launching new recruitment campaign soon. Just keep swimming with hope……
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From: Kristiansand
Another candidate I spoke to was told despite meeting CAA requirements for ZFTT they have, if I remember this correctly, their own internal higher hour requirements exceeding this and as you say couldn’t spare any aircraft at this time of year for base training. I have 2500 hours but haven’t been told either way of require base training or not, I would imagine I would not. Be good to even have an indication of say end of year if plan but believe they launching new recruitment campaign soon. Just keep swimming with hope……
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From: Either the back of a sim, or wherever Crewing send me.
Another candidate I spoke to was told despite meeting CAA requirements for ZFTT they have, if I remember this correctly, their own internal higher hour requirements exceeding this
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