LOT Polish Airlines hiring
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Bumping this thread. Have been invited and ignorantly assumed that the figures mentioned on PJN were old. But a typerated 737 FO with less than 1500 hours can expect 47 EUR per block with a minimum of 40 guaranteed, right? And no base pay? These are... uhm, interesting numbers. =)
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Hello Guys!
i have a general question.
Is there anyone that has been to LOT Assesment recently .
If yes. it would be great if you could provide with feedback.
i have a general question.
Is there anyone that has been to LOT Assesment recently .
If yes. it would be great if you could provide with feedback.
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Hi guys,
To all of you wondering about LOT assessment. I attended in April. Mixed feelings about it. Here we go
Day 1: 9 AM at LOT HQ. They will collect you at reception, there was 6 of us. All mixed from captains to F/O-s to NTR. And we were all together on assessment.
First part: Group exercise. Everybody gets a paper with a different description of city streets and you all need to draw a Map of the city combining your clues. Fun and 20min long. After that, one by one, you get in for Technical Interview and HR interview. Very basic questions, about TAS, ISA temp., Jeppsen charts, little eroute and aerodrome charts and meteo. Nothing too difficult. And HR as basic as can get. One guy did not pass, so there was 5 of us for tomorrow.
Day 2:
First Psychotest. It is not the Vienna testing system, I don't know why the said it will be but it wasn't. I wrote the previous post about that so I won't write it here again.
And now the fun part. Simulator. They will pair you with who they got that day. So basically Captain and NTR cadet with 200 hours together. But that does not matter that much cause captains are almost as clueless as you are about the sim. Sim is ALX FTPN, generic a/c. They will provide you with briefing pack a few days earlier (3 for me) but it will be to little use for you. Anyway, guys were exiting sim session while i waited outside. They exited angry and tired, all of them. Why, because you don't know how to do things in the simulator. Pitch and power settings, anything. It was complete chaos and guys who are already flying said that it was the worst sim session of their life. I did not get the job in the end. I passed all of ATPL exams in the first try, all check flights also and I got over 500 TT. On MCC/JOC course I got excellent feedback from instructors. But I did not get real chance to present myself in this simulator and that's too bad. They replied to me that I can reapply in 3 months.
Anyway guys, I hope my feedback will help you and if anybody had different experience please write it for all of us to know.
To all of you wondering about LOT assessment. I attended in April. Mixed feelings about it. Here we go
Day 1: 9 AM at LOT HQ. They will collect you at reception, there was 6 of us. All mixed from captains to F/O-s to NTR. And we were all together on assessment.
First part: Group exercise. Everybody gets a paper with a different description of city streets and you all need to draw a Map of the city combining your clues. Fun and 20min long. After that, one by one, you get in for Technical Interview and HR interview. Very basic questions, about TAS, ISA temp., Jeppsen charts, little eroute and aerodrome charts and meteo. Nothing too difficult. And HR as basic as can get. One guy did not pass, so there was 5 of us for tomorrow.
Day 2:
First Psychotest. It is not the Vienna testing system, I don't know why the said it will be but it wasn't. I wrote the previous post about that so I won't write it here again.
And now the fun part. Simulator. They will pair you with who they got that day. So basically Captain and NTR cadet with 200 hours together. But that does not matter that much cause captains are almost as clueless as you are about the sim. Sim is ALX FTPN, generic a/c. They will provide you with briefing pack a few days earlier (3 for me) but it will be to little use for you. Anyway, guys were exiting sim session while i waited outside. They exited angry and tired, all of them. Why, because you don't know how to do things in the simulator. Pitch and power settings, anything. It was complete chaos and guys who are already flying said that it was the worst sim session of their life. I did not get the job in the end. I passed all of ATPL exams in the first try, all check flights also and I got over 500 TT. On MCC/JOC course I got excellent feedback from instructors. But I did not get real chance to present myself in this simulator and that's too bad. They replied to me that I can reapply in 3 months.
Anyway guys, I hope my feedback will help you and if anybody had different experience please write it for all of us to know.
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gAndrej!!!
Thank you for your detail information you given in your last post.what was checked in the simulator? Holding? Raw data? Loft mission. What was your screening airport. Where did the candidates have the most problems.
Thank you for possibles answers.
Im still waiting for my invitaion.
All the best
Jamees
Thank you for your detail information you given in your last post.what was checked in the simulator? Holding? Raw data? Loft mission. What was your screening airport. Where did the candidates have the most problems.
Thank you for possibles answers.
Im still waiting for my invitaion.
All the best
Jamees
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If anyone is going to a LOT interview then here is some info. My mate just got back from interviewing and told me a few things that were quite interesting.
1. The interview felt more like an interrogation than a professional interview where they get to know you. They questioned every little possible issue in his logbook as if he was some kind of criminal. All his flying and sim time is legit backed up by professional airline references and records yet apparently his logbook is not done correctly according to LOT.
2. The HR lady was asking questions that were very subjective, like what is your motivation for becoming a pilot or joining LOT. When he answered they would start arguing his point by telling him that’s not really a motivation. In other words if you don’t match their answers it must be wrong. Quite stupid questioning really. You also do a technical on jepp plates, taf, meter etc.
3. He applied for 787 and was invited to a 787 interview.. He has 6000 hours total with about 3000 jet and approximately 2600 PIC time. Typed on one of their narrow bodies but when he asked where the 787 TR was done they said it’s a little early to say what jet you would be on. In other words you are experienced on one of our NB’s so we are sending you there.
4. Bases - Warsaw and Budapest. Budapest is small but you can get it. BUD has 1 or 2 787 there and Embraer aircraft. There seems to be no seniority system in place so if you are experienced and ready you leap frog others who joined earlier than you for command etc. Apparently the rosters are just assigned and they try and balance it out for everyone so you all get good, medium and bad schedules mixed in together to keep it fair.
5. PPJN seems to be pretty spot on with regards to salaries. 787 captains can be getting up to 112 Euro per block hour though if over I believe 10,000 hours and a bit less if below. He said 1st year junior captains were on about 90 per hour. FO and CA average about 70 flight hours per month so nobody should be earning less than 4K a month (50k) a year but your cost of living in BUD and WAW is a lot cheaper than Western Europe so you would save every month. Not great money but not bad considering where you would be.
6. Quick upgrade does to be had in as little as 2 years and even less with experience on type. DEC joining on type can expect a 787 in less than 3 years if joining on NB fleet apparently. Of course they need 787 pilots now so you could go straight to the 787 from the get go. 787 TR done in Singapore.
7. Apparently working on a commuting roster as well and will guarantee any 4 days off per month that you would want. He did not say how many days of a month you get in total but I think it is fair to say a safe bet would be to bank on a minimum of 8 and maybe as high as 12.
All in all he said it was an okay experience and good if you want a quick upgrade. Not the dream job but a lot of positives if you don’t plan on staying forever and if you do things will most likely only get better. If living in the CEE is your thing this could be a good option for you. This info is based on one pilots experience so others who went might have completely different take on things.
1. The interview felt more like an interrogation than a professional interview where they get to know you. They questioned every little possible issue in his logbook as if he was some kind of criminal. All his flying and sim time is legit backed up by professional airline references and records yet apparently his logbook is not done correctly according to LOT.
2. The HR lady was asking questions that were very subjective, like what is your motivation for becoming a pilot or joining LOT. When he answered they would start arguing his point by telling him that’s not really a motivation. In other words if you don’t match their answers it must be wrong. Quite stupid questioning really. You also do a technical on jepp plates, taf, meter etc.
3. He applied for 787 and was invited to a 787 interview.. He has 6000 hours total with about 3000 jet and approximately 2600 PIC time. Typed on one of their narrow bodies but when he asked where the 787 TR was done they said it’s a little early to say what jet you would be on. In other words you are experienced on one of our NB’s so we are sending you there.
4. Bases - Warsaw and Budapest. Budapest is small but you can get it. BUD has 1 or 2 787 there and Embraer aircraft. There seems to be no seniority system in place so if you are experienced and ready you leap frog others who joined earlier than you for command etc. Apparently the rosters are just assigned and they try and balance it out for everyone so you all get good, medium and bad schedules mixed in together to keep it fair.
5. PPJN seems to be pretty spot on with regards to salaries. 787 captains can be getting up to 112 Euro per block hour though if over I believe 10,000 hours and a bit less if below. He said 1st year junior captains were on about 90 per hour. FO and CA average about 70 flight hours per month so nobody should be earning less than 4K a month (50k) a year but your cost of living in BUD and WAW is a lot cheaper than Western Europe so you would save every month. Not great money but not bad considering where you would be.
6. Quick upgrade does to be had in as little as 2 years and even less with experience on type. DEC joining on type can expect a 787 in less than 3 years if joining on NB fleet apparently. Of course they need 787 pilots now so you could go straight to the 787 from the get go. 787 TR done in Singapore.
7. Apparently working on a commuting roster as well and will guarantee any 4 days off per month that you would want. He did not say how many days of a month you get in total but I think it is fair to say a safe bet would be to bank on a minimum of 8 and maybe as high as 12.
All in all he said it was an okay experience and good if you want a quick upgrade. Not the dream job but a lot of positives if you don’t plan on staying forever and if you do things will most likely only get better. If living in the CEE is your thing this could be a good option for you. This info is based on one pilots experience so others who went might have completely different take on things.
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Exactly what I was thinking. I seriously don´t understand this. Is there anything that we don´t know about the pay or do LOT have the worst payscale in Europe? I can´t understand how these guys attract people with a payscale like this. Warsaw is cheap but not THAT cheap.
Anyone who´s actually met with them and would care to shed some light on their terms and conditions?
Anyone who´s actually met with them and would care to shed some light on their terms and conditions?
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It is even worse , on the B787 fleet you are paid only 1000 euro for the all length of your training ( about 4 months ).
Not sure what kind of “talents” they want to attract
Not sure what kind of “talents” they want to attract
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Jamees,
I still keep having the below message from the system;
'Jamees has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.'
I still keep having the below message from the system;
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As I heard from a guy on the 787, there should be a payrise around 5€/hr this month and the 1000€ now only during type rating, line training should be normally paid. The best fleet should be now the Dash, as they got some extra money because of the short sectors...
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LOT Polish Airlines hiring
Hello everyone,
Any updates and information with the latest assessments?
In regard of the technical interview,
what questions do they asked.
I would appreciate any feedback.
Any updates and information with the latest assessments?
In regard of the technical interview,
what questions do they asked.
I would appreciate any feedback.
787 commuting depends on the length of your commute but generally speaking possible.
Roster stability very good.
Normal upgrade logic in LOT is such that you're normally offered upgrade from FO on shorthaul or move fleet as a FO to LH and then long wait for upgrade dct on LH.
Moneywise SH CPT earns the same as LH FO.
Roster stability very good.
Normal upgrade logic in LOT is such that you're normally offered upgrade from FO on shorthaul or move fleet as a FO to LH and then long wait for upgrade dct on LH.
Moneywise SH CPT earns the same as LH FO.