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RYR basic salary UK bases

Old 28th Jan 2018, 21:30
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RYR basic salary UK bases

Hi guys,

can anyone tell me the basic salary for CPTs on a UK base?

Thank you.
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 22:14
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Basic £75k
Flight pay £36k (850hrs)
Allowances £6k
Productivity bonus £12k
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 09:41
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Productivity bonus? What's that?
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 10:15
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Thanks, so not flying you will make 75k GBP per year, right.
Same for other UK bases like EMA, or are they different?
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 14:11
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Originally Posted by iome View Post
Basic £75k
Flight pay £36k (850hrs)
Allowances £6k
Productivity bonus £12k
Good one! More like Basic £56k with 10% reduction for the first year for being on Probation, and if you call sick within year one you'll have deductions.
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 14:18
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That’s surprising beats most including BA unless you have been there for years.
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 14:43
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What can I say, believe what you like.
These are the figures in the latest addendum and Friday's payslip shows the right amount.
I won't post it on here, but if you want a peek I'll PM you
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 14:45
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£43 an hour for flight pay, that seems way above market average. Also what are the details on the allowances, exactly what are they, duty hours, meal costs, overnight incidentals etc?
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 14:53
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My new basic in STN is £74k.
Flight pay in STN is £38.49/PSBH. 850 hrs is a little under £33k gross. I flew 890 hours last year, so 900 hours is £34.6k
New total based on 900 hours (basic was 63k last month before new deal kicked in) is now £108.6k.

Productivity bonus is £12k and in STN we got that for the first time this month. I've resigned, and wonder if they'll want this back as I've not offered to work any days off, let alone the amount (I believe its 6 per year) they require.

Allowances (or expenses) is £6k per year. While this is paid monthly at £500, this is a gross figure and I presume we actually only see £300 of it. I spend that monthly on things like LOL/private healthcare/car parking/bottled water etc - so I personally don't treat this as income. It what everyone else provides for you. Ryanair don't, and somehow convince people they make £6k more.

Yes Bex88 - the Captain salary at RYR has always been better than junior FO salary at BA. Why is that surprising? Before the new deal I'd have taken at least a 30% pay cut to go from LHS RYR to RHS BA.

Enzo- the sector pay is high because the basic pay is so pathetically low. We actually have to work our a$$ off to get a competitive salary.

This new deal doesn't beat Easyjet. Where the basic salary alone there is £105k.
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 16:44
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VJW. What I meant was the salary at RYR for captains is better than that at BA for captains unless you have been in for about 15 years. I have friends at RYR and I donít advise them to come to BA. Itís good to see a improvement in terms
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 19:03
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glad to see that RYR is slowly picking up the pieces ! Hopefully more airlines follow suit
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 23:07
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Serious question. How much would you be willing to surrender in order for the culture of the organisation to shift significantly? Sans OíLeary, Wilson etc etc
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 01:29
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In pure money terms in the UK itís 92k before you fly.
74k basic
6k allowance
12k productivity. The productivity requires you to choose three days in November and three in December of each year. You can choose the days and if they donít ask you to work them you still get it. Itís paid at 1000 a month by 12. 6k is the same paid at 500 a month by 12.
Bank on 750-800 hours at 38.49 an hour which is just shy of 29k at the lower end.

All in about 120k in the UK. LTC add 13k to that. Pension 8k in 8k matched.

Before I get flamed I am not stating itís good and Iím not stating itís bad. Iíve just clarified what it is in money terms for those that want to know.
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 08:17
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Originally Posted by Enzo999 View Post
£43 an hour for flight pay, that seems way above market average. Also what are the details on the allowances, exactly what are they, duty hours, meal costs, overnight incidentals etc?
The majority of the sector pay is non-taxable, not sure how they pulled that one with HMRC as most companies it's a couple of quid.

That's all you get for allowances, that's your food, duty pay etc etc. The only other thing you're entitled to is 30 quid for a night away.

Arguing with the youth hostel they booked you into, because they forget to make a reservation, is free of charge.
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 08:48
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Sounds like aviations best kept secret, taking into account 5-4....
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 09:13
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5/4 isn't all it's cracked up to be. And they seem to think this is a unique selling point. If you live elsewhere and commute it's great, but living locally it's pointless, the fact being that you can NEVER get AL, so any events you may like to attend on your 5 on.....not going! Unless you go sick of course.....but then on the 'new' deal you have to give them back any sick days you take.....or you lose the 'bonus'....wtf.....don't go sick folks.....fly!

Also the figures being touted around are very over exaggerated, my P60 last year sad £106000, OK they have added a few more bonuses/bribes in recently, but you have to work for it, really really hard....5 X 4 sector days in a row, flying with a guy that barely speaks English, no assistance from ops etc if it all goes tits up, ground handling atrocious, as Ryanair don't pay them, cabin crew that don't really give a about you, just have to sell 40 scratch cards per flight of they end up on the wrong end of the ginger beast! Oh and fill your old Sprite bottle up from a tap in the crew room (some guys use old gin/whisky/vodka bottles....at least people have a sense of humour!) . All in all a crap place to work, oh and this "award winning" training system is slowly being diluted with 500hr LHS heroes as the older/wiser LTCs/TREs get fed up with teaching muppets or never actually getting to fly. At a recent job interview, the guy doing the interview actually said if you had come is as a RYR TRE 3 years ago, respect! But now, no, your considered just another number in the RYR machine.

Is there a reason they are installing all these fixed base sims everywhere and trying to recruit ' training FOs'..... Yes, because the quality of the new recruits is is that bad that they have to train them before they train them....In my day 40-60 sectors would get guys out on the line.....now 100 sectors is the norm........wow.

I've left the place now, for less pay, but a lot less stress and hassle. Also my doctor says my back is getting better, probably because I don't have to carry 3 litres of water and 3 meals the 3 miles we walk on average a day, in the rain........ Oh and speaking of rain, be prepared to stand outside in the rain/snow on a headset whilst the fuel truck pumps on 12t, on a 25 min turnaround.....

Enjoy......
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 09:24
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Originally Posted by TheMightyAtom View Post
The majority of the sector pay is non-taxable, not sure how they pulled that one with HMRC as most companies it's a couple of quid.

That's all you get for allowances, that's your food, duty pay etc etc. The only other thing you're entitled to is 30 quid for a night away.

Arguing with the youth hostel they booked you into, because they forget to make a reservation, is free of charge.
So hang on th majority of the £38.50 per block hour is non taxable? How did you get away with that? I have worked for several companies that pay for duty and block time and never has the block pay been free of tax. Really is sounding like the best kept secret!
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 09:54
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Some people on here simply have no idea what they're talking about - it's scary. Enzo if it sounds too good to be true it probably is mate.

Last month I made £3366 gross on sector pay (87 hours roughly at £38.49). My pay slip specifically states £3146 of it is gross the other £220 is non taxable. I received a net of £1910 for this £3366 gross sector earned (57% of the amount gross). You all can be the judge of whether 'The majority of the sector pay is non-taxable' is a reasonable statement or not.

I genuinely think people don't know how to read their own payslips.
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 10:28
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My Son is an FO at STN and I can confirm he pays tax on his gross salary, inc sector pay, if he didn't I would charge hm more rent! He's on a UK contract, I don't know the nasty ins and outs of the paperwork, but the salary is compatible to others, guess the same rules apply to Captains
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 10:45
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Apologies if I've mislead some there! When I was there Im sure I received about £19 paid net (ok not necessarily the same as non-taxable) and the remainder (~£13) rolled into the salary taxed and paid at the end of the month. Perhaps I was on an older contract or I simply dreamt this.
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