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Old 11th Mar 2018, 18:25
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Originally Posted by Luggage View Post
Im not so sure about that. I am fairly certain they were suppossed to base aircraft there. They were also to allow FAA pilots to fly the aircraft whilst studying for the EASA which has also failed to materialise.

Like I said the pilots I know who are training are being kept in the dark about certain aspects of this job. It seems that NAS themselves are not too confident on this whole FLL situation working out.

The pilots I know are training and asking questions whilst being given very vague answers. OSM does not seem to be reliable as a contract agency at all either.

For this to work they will need to base aircraft in the US along with maintenance or it just becomes to expensive and non reliable. Just like the 2017 season of constantly having to hire aircraft from operators like Wamos Air (Spanish) and others.

US pilots based in FLL all operate under an EASA validation and have two years to convert their FAA license to an equivalent EASA license.
FLL is a crew base. It's well known.

Sorry to say, but either you are a lier/troll or your friends are complete retards.
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 22:37
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FLL

Originally Posted by lansen View Post
US pilots based in FLL all operate under an EASA validation and have two years to convert their FAA license to an equivalent EASA license.
FLL is a crew base. It's well known.

Sorry to say, but either you are a lier/troll or your friends are complete retards.
I think you better look in the mirror when it comes to retards. There is no more 2 year validation...FACT....

They are all doing EASA licences first then they start the job. The IAA never allowed the validation.

I would think you want to know this before posting more rubbish!!

Dont believe me, make some enquiries..
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 00:08
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Originally Posted by Luggage View Post
For this to work they will need to base aircraft in the US along with maintenance or it just becomes to expensive and non reliable. Just like the 2017 season of constantly having to hire aircraft from operators like Wamos Air (Spanish) and others.
It seems that the “certain aspects of the job” that your friends have been “kept in the dark” with are driven by rumour, assumptions and guestimations by people that have nothing to do with norwegian nor have any intention of joining and just out to stir. Your friends have access to an internal website, and TREs etc which would provide a lot of answers if they were really that concerned or bothered.

Why does a CREW base require an aircraft and maintenance base to work? I’m really confused by this? As far as the pilot is concerned, his duty starts and finishes at FLL, I’m not sure how the rest matter?
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Old 12th Mar 2018, 16:57
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As far as the pilot is concerned, his duty starts and finishes at FLL, I’m not sure how the rest matter?
What's the crack with commuting at DY or daren't I ask...

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Old 13th Mar 2018, 13:48
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Originally Posted by Gulf Julliet Papa View Post
It seems that the “certain aspects of the job” that your friends have been “kept in the dark” with are driven by rumour, assumptions and guestimations by people that have nothing to do with norwegian nor have any intention of joining and just out to stir. Your friends have access to an internal website, and TREs etc which would provide a lot of answers if they were really that concerned or bothered.

Why does a CREW base require an aircraft and maintenance base to work? I’m really confused by this? As far as the pilot is concerned, his duty starts and finishes at FLL, I’m not sure how the rest matter?
Well this is U.S. "definition" of base. Planes, crew room, maintanace, crewtrackers etc. Very complex and expensive."Base" means seniority issues and rules.It's how it works in U.S.
European side works bit differently, "base" might be only crew, some times even part of crew, sometimes temporarily, sometimes mixed. Very flexible, especially in low cost segment.Sometimes operated by contractor crews. My understanding for Norwegian's FLL Is more "reverse schedullung"operations network wide with only one significant difference:joblisted at U.S registered branch of OSM. And this part is most problematic for Norwegian so far regarding unions..and reason why it's not really works well. I guess if they will finish soon this experiment, U.S. pilots can get residency in Ireland and continue work for Irish OSM. Maybe I'm wrong....
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 17:03
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Originally Posted by TangoAlphad View Post
Commute for free on S2 tickets on any fleet. S2 is higher priority than ID90's and will get you on crew seats avail also ie jump seats.
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Sorry i should have been more specific. Commuting as in prior to FDP or not?
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 19:20
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I don't think any airline will advocate commuting prior to a FDP. If or not it's "possible" obviously depends on where your from / going to. Might be worth (to get a rough idea) looking at at the flight status on their site to see when the LH Departures and Arrivals come in
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Old 14th Mar 2018, 06:23
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Originally Posted by Gulf Julliet Papa View Post
I don't think any airline will advocate commuting prior to a FDP. If or not it's "possible" obviously depends on where your from / going to. Might be worth (to get a rough idea) looking at at the flight status on their site to see when the LH Departures and Arrivals come in
I assume you are only talking about EU, here in the LotF,HotB half the pilots commute, the majority before FDP. My Company requires me to have two options getting me there before check in. If I miss the first one, I call scheduling, they can buy me a ticket or just wait. If I don’t get on I get removed from the trip, lose the pay, but never disciplinary action.
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 19:00
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Upgrades

What are the requirements to upgrade for an FO and how long does it currently take on average from day of joining?

I know they have relief captains but do you have to become a RCA before CA or if you have the hours and requirements can you become a full captain from FO and skip RCA?
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 20:18
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Originally Posted by Luggage View Post
What are the requirements to upgrade for an FO and how long does it currently take on average from day of joining?

I know they have relief captains but do you have to become a RCA before CA or if you have the hours and requirements can you become a full captain from FO and skip RCA?
Well, a couple of guys I know who moved from SH to LH two years ago are currently doing their upgrade from RCA to CP, and there are a heck of a lot of RCA’s! Not sure if they upgrade FO’s directly?
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Old 20th Mar 2018, 21:26
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Whats the time frame from FO-RCA-CA looking like from day of joining?
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 00:23
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Originally Posted by Luggage View Post
Whats the time frame from FO-RCA-CA looking like from day of joining?
With what experience / hours prior to joining?
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 02:05
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Hours

For all pilots really. Whether you join with 2000 hours total and 1000 jet or 5000 total and 2000 hours jet, no 787 time though.

How many 787 hours on type do you require for RCA and full CA?
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Old 21st Mar 2018, 19:48
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Is the FLL base up and running? How many pilots?
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 04:29
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Apparently up and running with no planes based there.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 16:35
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Any idea how many pilots in FLL and if they are still hiring?
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 18:21
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No idea on how many pilots are there but I believe they are still hiring for FLL 787 base.

I spoke to a few pilots leaving the ME3 for Norwegian 787 job as apparently in the ME things are going from bad to worse.

Norwegian less money but people seem a lot happier.
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Old 22nd Mar 2018, 22:46
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Not that it has anything to do with the topic but I find it a bit interesting that no one has mentioned that Norwegian made a private placement 2 days ago to increase its equity (from very low level). We are around the peak of another economical cycle and I find it a bit alarming that they cannot keep afloat without asking the shareholders for more money. Something to consider for people out there thinking the grass is greener somewhere else.
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 09:22
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Takes a huge amount of money to expand so aggressively, I agree with, but with a fleet of over 100 aircraft should they not be making money now, which would allow them to fund their own expansion?
I did read for last year or last quarter they made a loss of $10 per passengers flown.
Investors will want their money back at some point.... And why invest more if your not seeing any returns, you don't invest out of good will, you invest to make money.
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 19:46
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Originally Posted by Luggage View Post
For all pilots really. Whether you join with 2000 hours total and 1000 jet or 5000 total and 2000 hours jet, no 787 time though.

How many 787 hours on type do you require for RCA and full CA?

Co-Pilot to Relief Captain

5,000 hours total time
2,000 hours medium jet

Don’t know about Relief Captain to Captain... correction, about two years for guys I know, after about 1,000 widebody hours. Apparently if a short haul Captain accrues 1,000 hours on The 737Max doing ETOPS, this allows them to apply for DEC in LH.

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