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Old 25th Sep 2017, 10:51
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Well, the MightyAtom. If they plan to act they must act fast and use the momentum they have in the media. I can already tell the media is slowly losing interest and up until now no actions. As soon as the winter schedule kicks in its business as usual.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 12:09
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Media momentum

Even if the media would go quiet now, a new momentum will resurface by default when the first (organized) industrial action takes place. Even if it were to be radio silence for the next days or weeks, media attention will pick up 'as soon as'. It has to: industrial action in the biggest airliner in Europe and not covering it? No way.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 15:22
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I don't think the airline has ever tried to be anything other than the 'Sports Direct' of the airline industry.

And I'ver always wondered why the UK government has paid so much attention to it, including having the CEO in front of an MP committee to explain himself, and to attack the policy of zero-hour contracts. If they put Sports D under the spotlight and harangue and embarrass the boss why not the same with RYR? It could be it's an Irish registered company, but it's largest base is in UK, so UK MP's can have a say on behalf of their constituents.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 16:50
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The issue with that is Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 18:26
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Two RYR 73s wearing out the (newly re-furbed runway surface) at SNN yet again today in the desperate race to qualify new pilots. Not seen circuit work on this scale for years!
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 18:42
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset View Post
The issue with that is Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom.
A fact lost on many.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 18:47
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It's unfair to call the Ryanair pilots spineless behind the comfort of proper contracts, labour laws and union representation.

I welcome the new ECJ (European Court of Justice) ruling and the ERC letter where several base representatives demand local contracts. That should level the playing field to other, serious, employers.
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 21:00
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset View Post
The issue with that is Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom.
Depends which part of the island of Ireland you’re referring to . Anyway back to the thread!
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Old 25th Sep 2017, 22:55
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Originally Posted by Skipname View Post
Another "genius" idea from the FR management?

Many cabin crews are reporting that the "not suitable for drinking" stickers above the water taps in the galleys are being covered up.
I guess the crew can't complain about not having water anymore.
Why would you have those stickers in the first place - its potable water
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 06:05
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The issue with that is Ireland is not part of the United Kingdom.

It could be it's an Irish registered company, but it's largest base is in UK, so UK MP's can have a say on behalf of their constituents.


Which is exactly why I added the last sentance caveat. Are you suggesting UK governement has no 'duty of care' or influence or jurisdiction over its citizens working within its own borders allbeit for a foreign registered company?
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 06:18
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Originally Posted by Jet II View Post
Why would you have those stickers in the first place - its potable water
So they can sell bottled water. Simple
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 07:00
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Fairly pointless cleaning your aircraft potable water systems if you can't verify the cleanliness of the next truck that refills your system.

Its about good enough to flush the toilet with and that's as far as I would go with ours.
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 08:08
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Originally Posted by TangoAlphad View Post
Out of curiosity is there a cleaning schedule for the 'potable' water systems on Ryanair or any airline? Ours is inhibited on our fleets so I genuinely don't know.
During my time in engineering we cleaned the potable water system every month. All filters were removed and the system flushed with a cleaning agent followed by chlorine. This was left in the system for a couple of hours and then the system was flushed with clean water untill the chlorine levels were within a certain band. When all this was completed, new filters would be installed and the aircraft was good to go.
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 08:46
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EMERGENCY

This thread is dying. So is the interest in this subject in the mainstream media. Something must be done NOW, before we lose momentum and this window of opportunity.
MOL has almost won. (again)

Before you know it, you could be discussing potable water systems cleaning procedures.

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Old 26th Sep 2017, 08:53
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clearly you don't have clue what's going on
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 09:17
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Originally Posted by RAT 5
Which is exactly why I added the last sentance caveat. Are you suggesting UK governement has no 'duty of care' or influence or jurisdiction over its citizens working within its own borders allbeit for a foreign registered company?
Am I suggesting that? Umm no, are you putting words into my mouth? The tone of your post suggests you're having a baby over my statement, maybe you could enlighten us considering you clearly know more about it.
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 09:59
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https://www.eurocockpit.be/news/ryan...del-challenged
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 10:36
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From the travelling public point of view, Ryanair have handled the situation in an exemplary manner. Media interest wanes.

Pilot shortage isn't a myth and isn't a Ryanair only problem. Media interest wanes.

Taking Wing: What Pilot Shortage? | Flying Magazine
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 12:52
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Originally Posted by Philip Boucher-Hayes View Post
I am an Irish journalist working for the national broadcaster, RTÉ.

I would like to speak, in confidence and off record, to any current or former Ryan Air pilots on this forum.

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It would be interesting to know whether, and how many, pilots took up this offer.
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 14:05
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Originally Posted by BehindBlueEyes View Post
It would be interesting to know whether, and how many, pilots took up this offer.
RYR flight and cabin crew, take action NOW.
If you don,t stand on your rights, O Lairy and his management bandits will take revenge on the pilots and cabin crew who did want to stretch out their necks and your conditions might even further decline. This could also be a signal for other airlines too that the management can do what they want for in further reducing the salaries and working conditions, as the pilots and cabin crew still keep on flying for them.
Take the USA as an example, their the unions are much stronger and the working conditions at the majors are much better.
Fight for yourself and the whole EU aviation community!
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