And the Best A320 Contract in Europe is?
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And the Best A320 Contract in Europe is?
Well there are many around but there is still one where you are treated like a human being, you are respected and work with friendly professional people........ plus a decent place to be, and on your day off you can get a suntan Any guesses??
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To meet the above stated requirements ezy on a permanent contract in one of the Italian bases.
MXP, 5-4 roster with preferencial bidding, decent pension scheme, €9000 for a captain after taxes. And loyalty + performance bonus
MXP, 5-4 roster with preferencial bidding, decent pension scheme, €9000 for a captain after taxes. And loyalty + performance bonus
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Nope, you can bid for either late or early duties which means you can have some sort of control on your social life. You can plan ahead and don't have to wait for rosters to come out cause you already know your days off. 9000 euros net for a captain, with their loyalty bonus included you are looking at 10000 euros net. Plus you're a captain after 5 / 6 years. Name me an airline in Europe with such a stable roster and good salary in such a short time.
FO's earn 5000 net and SFO 6000 net. In France FO salaries are slightly higher. I'm pretty sure there are few FO's in Europe on that salary in the beginning of their career and having a 5-4 roster.
P.S. All on permanent contracts of course with a pension. Not that Ryanair crap with zero hour contracts and vague tax deals.
FO's earn 5000 net and SFO 6000 net. In France FO salaries are slightly higher. I'm pretty sure there are few FO's in Europe on that salary in the beginning of their career and having a 5-4 roster.
P.S. All on permanent contracts of course with a pension. Not that Ryanair crap with zero hour contracts and vague tax deals.
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This is good to hear so far we have 3 contenders Vueling/Aegean/EasyJet .. you see I don't see that there is a pilot shortage ... but there are Airlines with total lack of respect or interest in their crews ...it has got so bad recently that a lot of decent high housed guys just prefer to sit at home .. and why not. We chose flying as a rewarding career not to be treated by some of these Airlines like we don't exist unless it suits them. At least if you go to China they pay you well to be treated like a second class citizen. For me it's about working for a caring Airline that respects my life and the fact that I have one outside of Aviation and treats me well. A decent salary helps of course.
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easyJet Switzerland is more or less on a par with the other continental bases. c.8000CHF net for SFO, c.11000CHF net for captains, preferential bidding (which seems to be working better and better), 10% bonus after five years (15% after ten), excellent pension, part time readily available. Hard work, no fixed pattern, but a fairly good deal overall.
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After the horrific 2016-summer fiasco, the airline is putting in place some measures to avoid repeating it. Life is much easier for everyone right now.
Money is a semi-sore point: you won't get even near those eJ's figures (not that they impress me too much, without taking a snapshot of an average-daily/monthly roster...) but you can count of some decent perks such as ZED for partner/kids (and now two more names with IB), extracrew for your weekly commuting and unlimited staff travel on VY network for up to eight people plus 24 standby-sectors of free eligibility.
Benefits: similar to those of a semi-legacy airline but I don't have anything to compare against to, so I wouldn't stress this too much. I am sure eJ & C. are not too far off.
Bases: obviously an almost-perfect match if you are a spaniard but not too bad for Italian, French, Dutch or even some Brits too.
Company's general attitude: well...is anyone 100% happy with theirs out there? Without going too much into details, I would like to see Paris-based folks be given BETTER terms in order to match the horrendous costs of living there and the CCs T&C bumped up a fair bit.
If you are young and/or single, without strings attached, free-spirited then this wagon might be worth jumping on. It surely was for me but be aware that I binned my rode-tinted specs loooong ago, so I am defo NOT biased.
Horses for courses folks!
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More realistically you might get that kind of money in VCE but on a flexible roster with no predictability over your roster or over when your base might get closed.
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Nope, you can bid for either late or early duties which means you can have some sort of control on your social life. You can plan ahead and don't have to wait for rosters to come out cause you already know your days off. 9000 euros net for a captain, with their loyalty bonus included you are looking at 10000 euros net. Plus you're a captain after 5 / 6 years. Name me an airline in Europe with such a stable roster and good salary in such a short time.
FO's earn 5000 net and SFO 6000 net. In France FO salaries are slightly higher. I'm pretty sure there are few FO's in Europe on that salary in the beginning of their career and having a 5-4 roster.
P.S. All on permanent contracts of course with a pension. Not that Ryanair crap with zero hour contracts and vague tax deals.
FO's earn 5000 net and SFO 6000 net. In France FO salaries are slightly higher. I'm pretty sure there are few FO's in Europe on that salary in the beginning of their career and having a 5-4 roster.
P.S. All on permanent contracts of course with a pension. Not that Ryanair crap with zero hour contracts and vague tax deals.
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Yeah, the waiting list to go to Italy as a Captain is extremely long in EZY. And before you can reach those SFO figures you need at least 4 years in the company (and still 6000 is on the optimistic side).
Forget about Venice too, the criterias to go there now are not seniority based anymore.
Forget about Venice too, the criterias to go there now are not seniority based anymore.
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Captainprop not sure where you get that from The pay is not too bad at all plus I get my accommodation paid for ... staff and Interline travel on star alliance network , nicely maintained aircraft , really nice cabin crew plus a company that is successful and making a lot of money annually .. I am content ...
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I would say easyJet is the best outfit right now on the A320. Good stable company, nice fixed roster (if you're lucky to have it) and you sleep at home most of the time.
Vueling is not bad provided you're a high seniority captain in your home base, specially if you're also LSC/TRE, at least money-wise.
I would also add Aer Lingus, they look nice.
Legacy carriers obviously are there... but let's not take them into account today...
Vueling is not bad provided you're a high seniority captain in your home base, specially if you're also LSC/TRE, at least money-wise.
I would also add Aer Lingus, they look nice.
Legacy carriers obviously are there... but let's not take them into account today...
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easySwiss deal is not that good as you need to consider the high living costs in Switzerland.
SFO salary is maybe trippel the salary you get at Migros at the supermarket employee in the 1st year.
People who are living at France or Germany are being highly taxed, and hardly no lifestyle for non-Swiss citizen living in the Swiss side. For sure most Swiss poeple will not welcome you as you always be a foreigner for them
And btw it is NOT European, but an island on the continent 
SFO salary is maybe trippel the salary you get at Migros at the supermarket employee in the 1st year.
People who are living at France or Germany are being highly taxed, and hardly no lifestyle for non-Swiss citizen living in the Swiss side. For sure most Swiss poeple will not welcome you as you always be a foreigner for them
And btw it is NOT European, but an island on the continent