Flybe
Joined: Apr 1999
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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Joined: Jun 2007
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From: UK
Whilst Flybe might not seem that great to an outsider, it really isn't that bad an employer when compared to some outfits out there. Yes there are issues, but there are issues in every company is there not? Yes people are leaving, and I'm one of them, but I've had 9 good years at Flybe and I wouldn't change my time there. I've got a fantastic job which I love, but it's time for a change for personal reasons.
As for "don't touch with a barge pole", I don't think there's any credence in saying that at all, particularly if you've never worked there.
Direct entry commands are happening as we speak.
PPJN is about up to date with pay.
Roster - you'll be worked to EASA FTLs, it's a target, not a limitation.
Time to command - depends how many hours you have, but you generally need 500 with Flybe, and the command process has just got even harder. If you have 200hrs then expect just over three years.
As for "don't touch with a barge pole", I don't think there's any credence in saying that at all, particularly if you've never worked there.
Direct entry commands are happening as we speak.
PPJN is about up to date with pay.
Roster - you'll be worked to EASA FTLs, it's a target, not a limitation.
Time to command - depends how many hours you have, but you generally need 500 with Flybe, and the command process has just got even harder. If you have 200hrs then expect just over three years.
Joined: Dec 1998
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From: Bass rock, east side.
How would anybody describe a BHX lifestyle on the Dash in terms of routes, nightstops, days off , early to lates etc etc?? - would be helpful. An answer to Gabbers post above would be handy as well! Thanks
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From: Somewhere In The South China Sea
That's right, Chesty. This is the big misconception by alot of pilots. The minimum/normal/maximum nightstop preference is just that, it's a preference. "I would like minimum nightstops if you can, please", but with BHX being a base that supports alot of nightstopping it is virtually impossible to get your preference. It should improve once the Brussels contract is fully crewed locally.
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From: Somewhere In The South China Sea
Manchester is fine as a base. It's not the easiest as far as getting to the crew room but the base is good.
The jet is done purely on seniority. In the past people have waited 8 years, at the moment people are getting it with less than a year with the company. Everything depends on alot of factors which include attrition, future jet plans, where you bid and the like.
The jet is done purely on seniority. In the past people have waited 8 years, at the moment people are getting it with less than a year with the company. Everything depends on alot of factors which include attrition, future jet plans, where you bid and the like.
Joined: Aug 2012
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From: UK
That's right, Chesty. This is the big misconception by alot of pilots. The minimum/normal/maximum nightstop preference is just that, it's a preference. "I would like minimum nightstops if you can, please", but with BHX being a base that supports alot of nightstopping it is virtually impossible to get your preference. It should improve once the Brussels contract is fully crewed locally.
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From: Somewhere In The South China Sea
You get 24hr duty pay, that's it.
As for not liking your wife, you have to think a bit wider than that, for instance, alot of pilots spend alot of time on motorways commuting to work, so nightstops are a better option than spending 3 hours a day sat watching white lines, lorries and trees. Another reason is alot of pilots have been displaced from a closed base, this means they are paying accommodation to be at their current base, if the company nightstops them then they won't incur the costs; they're away from home anyway, so they may as well nightstop.
As for not liking your wife, you have to think a bit wider than that, for instance, alot of pilots spend alot of time on motorways commuting to work, so nightstops are a better option than spending 3 hours a day sat watching white lines, lorries and trees. Another reason is alot of pilots have been displaced from a closed base, this means they are paying accommodation to be at their current base, if the company nightstops them then they won't incur the costs; they're away from home anyway, so they may as well nightstop.