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Old 17th Nov 2018, 15:52
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset View Post
What do you mean?
With FlyBe being on sale, the consequences for current MPL cadets
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 17:21
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I do feel sorry for the MPL cadets ..... but more worried for the rest of them . Guys and Gals that have been there for years and have a lot of commitments
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 17:21
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There is no consequence. Life carries on as normal until told otherwise.
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 17:57
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset View Post
There is no consequence. Life carries on as normal until told otherwise.
Isnít the MPL tied to the operator until converting to an ATPL.

If flybe get broken up for their slots then that poses a significant potential issue for those guys doesnít it?
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 18:14
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No, this is from the past. However, the MPL training is fully geared towards the company and a specific acft. So if you're in the middle of your MPL and the airline goes belly up, I wonder what situation you'll get into.
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 18:43
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possibly, but then you did ask what the consequences are for current MPL students with Flybe up for sale, the answer is there are no consequences. Should Flybe go under (which imho is far off yet ) then that's a whole different question. I have a feeling we've dumped some MPLS in the past and I vaguely remember, but don't quote me, that there was a deal done with another operator to enable them to finish.
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 06:54
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When Monarch had problems 3 years ago, before getting bust, they refuse to recruit their own, half trained, MPL.
​​​​​​Training on A320, fortunately for them EZY recruited most of them.

I don't know for Flybe, but if they do the MPL on dash Q400, it will be really hard to find someone to recruit them.
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 17:23
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On what grounds do you base that on?
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 17:25
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Originally Posted by Reversethrustset View Post
On what grounds do you base that on?
What do you mean?
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 20:37
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Your last paragraph.
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 20:49
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I think he means - if there is no other airline that flies the Q400 then who will they complete their MPL with.? Not sure it would be that difficult for another airline to do a short conversion course and take the crew.

Reversethurstset - are you at flybe? what is your take on what will happen?
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 22:58
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It's happened before and the cadets got placed with other airlines (don't quote me but I think it was easy).

I am at Flybe but I am in my notice period, I've got nothing to gain from dressing it up but my take on it is the biggest risk at the moment is the negative press and crew levels for next summer. Flybe do have a good business, revenue is stronger than ever however the cost base is way too high so something has to give and quite quickly. I think either Flybe or a new owner will be acting reasonably swiftly to strip out loss making routes and possibly bases. We're not that far away from handing back some more embraers which will save millions per year. I think they'll do a few other things too that I'll keep to myself. I know the rough figure that the CAA will pull the plug and all I'll say is we are nowhere near that yet. I think Flybe will be ok but I don't think they'll be recognisable as they are today. Just remember this is only my personal opinion and has no bearing on any strategies or anything that's coming from within.
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 23:15
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Correct. There was a MON MPL course who all ended up at Easy.
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Old 19th Nov 2018, 00:00
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No tubby I'm talking about Q400 MPL students ending up elsewhere.
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Old 19th Nov 2018, 09:53
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The mpl student flybe do something like 60hr of single engine plane, 15hr of multi engine then 110hr of 737 !!!! Yes 737 but with Flybe SOP. Then they do a normal dash 8 type rating !!!

So it would be easy to convert them to whatever other type rating after the 737 module.

For the one already in, I spoke with some and it seems they can already convert their MPL in a CPL / IR / ME if they do appropriate training (not need to do the full stuff) or wait the 1500hr for the ATPL.

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Old 22nd Nov 2018, 18:19
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Old 22nd Nov 2018, 21:03
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Buy it cheap and get great connectivity and a massive regional presence and they know how to turn flybe round into profitability!

great news
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Old 22nd Nov 2018, 21:50
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FlyBe already in a code share with Virgin... could be that they are looking to protect their regional moves to feed Virgin Atlantic?
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 08:39
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Blind leading the blind was my immediate reaction.
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Old 23rd Nov 2018, 10:56
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Originally Posted by nightfright View Post
Buy it cheap and get great connectivity and a massive regional presence and they know how to turn flybe round into profitability!

great news
totally agree, they could make a great go of it!! All the best flybe'ers!
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