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Old 10th Aug 2017, 13:39   #1101 (permalink)
 
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Alicante base - you will be able to express a preference however you might well be recruited for another base initially, it depends on commercial requirements. Base transfers are usually pretty swift.

Time to Command - depends on you really, and the number of hours you have/work. Alicante based guys don't do a lot of hours so if you are joining with little experience it will take a while. There isn't a seniority list, you apply for consideration when you have the required experience and believe that you are ready.

4 sector days - almost none.

Training pay - I believe that you are paid fully during your training. Per dimes are at a reduced rate during the type rating which I believe is funded by Jet2 in lieu of a bond.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 14:09   #1102 (permalink)
 
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Ok more or less I understand, so you don't really know when the company is going to give you your preference base right? I mean there is no seniority...
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 21:16   #1103 (permalink)
 
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Base transfer list is very transparent and unheard of to be on it for a year. ALC is not the most popular base for F/O's as you don't fly much at all so it would be fairly quick to get there. 3-6 months I recon

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If you have the hours and time in company I'd say 6 months to a year to get thru the system so long as your sharp. It's all best guess stuff as it's down to requirements.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 22:25   #1104 (permalink)
 
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Thank you,

How much can make "net" per month an FO and CPT at the beginning?. How many hours you fly usually per month ?
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 09:50   #1105 (permalink)
 
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Ok more or less I understand, so you don't really know when the company is going to give you your preference base right? I mean there is no seniority..
Correct, no seniority, however the base transfer list is organised on first come first served, i.e., it's done in order that you join the list. As has been said, ALC is usually undercrewed so my guess is that you would likely get that base right from the start.

As for how much you make nett, it depends on which base you are at, as your sector pay and duty pay makes a difference. At ALC you will earn less than most other bases as you fly less, it also depends on how much you choose to pay into the pension, and also on the Spanish tax rate vs UK tax.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 14:44   #1106 (permalink)
 
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I would say that the prospects of someone who enjoys being in the back of a darkened box are very good. We have recently recruited direct enter TRE's and TRI's.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 23:18   #1107 (permalink)
 
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Correct, no seniority, however the base transfer list is organised on first come first served, i.e., it's done in order that you join the list. As has been said, ALC is usually undercrewed so my guess is that you would likely get that base right from the start.

As for how much you make nett, it depends on which base you are at, as your sector pay and duty pay makes a difference. At ALC you will earn less than most other bases as you fly less, it also depends on how much you choose to pay into the pension, and also on the Spanish tax rate vs UK tax.
It sounds good to me... just one question more. Is there any extrapayment when they send you to fly out of base?
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 11:00   #1108 (permalink)
 
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You get your hourly duty allowance and your sector pay for the sectors that you fly, you will be accommodated on B&B basis and your transfers will all be organised for you either using hotel courtesy bus or taxi.
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Old 13th Aug 2017, 11:59   #1109 (permalink)
 
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Perfect then, it is like must be...
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Old 21st Aug 2017, 10:58   #1110 (permalink)
 
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Has anybody heard about interview assessments or start dates. It seems to be quiet on the recruitment front at the moment. Any news?
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Old 22nd Aug 2017, 05:12   #1111 (permalink)
 
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It's good to hear that there is some movement. Thank you.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 15:48   #1112 (permalink)
 
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 20:13   #1113 (permalink)
 
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That is great news for 2018. As a "talent pooler", we just have to hope that there isn't a glut of type rated people and the company then dip into our pool for pilots
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Old 12th Sep 2017, 19:32   #1114 (permalink)
 
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Has anybody heard anything about the assessments going on at the moment? Are they for FO or Capt positions?
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 16:21   #1115 (permalink)
 
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Assessments

Both........
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 09:58   #1116 (permalink)


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Does anyone have any idea of current numbers in the Holdpool (post successful sim)? And the current expected wait in said holdpool before being made an offer? thanks..
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 16:26   #1117 (permalink)
 
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DEC floating in the pool since last October, think they are flat out busy doing upgrades and NTR at the minute, stand to be corrected, but courses running until April I was told so sit tight and wait to hear from us. It may also depend on what base you are after aswell, don’t know anymore than that!
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Old 9th Oct 2017, 14:54   #1118 (permalink)
 
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Having read all this gentlemen,
As I understood is 8 months flying and let's say 4 off..and around 48k brut per year If I not mistaken plus per diem and Blk hr.
What is the net approx. salary I would be looking for in Palma Base as FO after Spanish Tax?
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Old 9th Oct 2017, 16:59   #1119 (permalink)
 
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Apparently there is a yearly bonus scheme Now? Does anyone have the details of this?
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Old 10th Oct 2017, 18:06   #1120 (permalink)
 
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Figures above...

If by 4 months off you mean taking the optional winter leave then those figures seem way off. On the 737 as a DEFO with experience in the UK you would expect basic of 53,916 plus sector and duty pay. The 737 is definitely queiter in the winter but I looked at my friends roster and he is still flying 7 days a month in November so not exactly commutable. If you are talking about the winter leave option then obviously reduce these figures.

For context on the 757 I have 7 days flying between now and December.

As for the Spanish contracts I have no idea where these figures are and I would be interested to see them myself.

None of us mortals knows what the bonus scheme will be exactly, full private health insurance takes effect from January 2018 I believe.
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