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Ivan Aroma
Your post was spot on.
From the B757 fleet, some Senior F/O's (mainly ex-DHL) are indeed leaving to go to BA,EK, EY & QR but these are all under 40 years of age & you'll always get that as some people, quite right,ly want to progress to 'National' carriers.
I haven't heard of any going to VAA... yet.
Some are also going to TCX & TOM because these offer Southern UK bases, in-place Scheduling (Rostering) Agreements, Short/Long Haul mix, fairer T&C's in terms of pension contributions, Day Off payments, basic salary & FDA & a major player which is discounted Staff Travel.
I don't know if it's as dire as 6 FO's left at MAN but the remaining guys are all seasoned pro's, each with well over 10 years B757/767 ETOPS & global route experience, generally 40+ in age & are all in the next tranche of Command slots on the B757. More Pilot Apprentices are being trained for the B757, a liberal sprinkling of returnees from the Gulf' & those moving on to 'Bigger Things' coming from turboprop commands being trained up over the winter will ensure that the numbers are back up to normal levels as the season starts. In addition to a smattering of transfers from the B737 fleet.
The B757 Captains are pretty much a settled bunch, with annual totals for Line Captains rarely getting above 400 hours, Trainers do have it tougher with TRI/TRE's shuttling up & down the M62.
The pay is on time, albeit at the lower end of the salary rankings for similar operators. Company is doing well, not over exposed in the Mediterranean trouble spots, no 'Deep' night flights that blights most Charter/IT rosters, they own most of their aircraft outright, they're spending squillions of quids on cockpit & avionics upgrades for the B757 investing in them to keep them for the next 7-10 years & brand new B73NG's to replace the older B733's. They're increasing in size at a cautious rate but the rise in share price glows of cautious, shrewd management. When I joined it was 75p, now its around 525p in 5 years. Forward bookings are way ahead of already ambitious predictions for S2016, it's looking rosy.
The management just needs to give internal upgrades to it's most experienced SFO's, provide competitive T&C's more in-line with its competitors, introduce a Staff Travel scheme & a Rostering Agreement IF it wants to attract & retain its experienced crews.
Because all in all its not a bad job, with fun crews & simple flying.
From the B757 fleet, some Senior F/O's (mainly ex-DHL) are indeed leaving to go to BA,EK, EY & QR but these are all under 40 years of age & you'll always get that as some people, quite right,ly want to progress to 'National' carriers.
I haven't heard of any going to VAA... yet.
Some are also going to TCX & TOM because these offer Southern UK bases, in-place Scheduling (Rostering) Agreements, Short/Long Haul mix, fairer T&C's in terms of pension contributions, Day Off payments, basic salary & FDA & a major player which is discounted Staff Travel.
I don't know if it's as dire as 6 FO's left at MAN but the remaining guys are all seasoned pro's, each with well over 10 years B757/767 ETOPS & global route experience, generally 40+ in age & are all in the next tranche of Command slots on the B757. More Pilot Apprentices are being trained for the B757, a liberal sprinkling of returnees from the Gulf' & those moving on to 'Bigger Things' coming from turboprop commands being trained up over the winter will ensure that the numbers are back up to normal levels as the season starts. In addition to a smattering of transfers from the B737 fleet.
The B757 Captains are pretty much a settled bunch, with annual totals for Line Captains rarely getting above 400 hours, Trainers do have it tougher with TRI/TRE's shuttling up & down the M62.
The pay is on time, albeit at the lower end of the salary rankings for similar operators. Company is doing well, not over exposed in the Mediterranean trouble spots, no 'Deep' night flights that blights most Charter/IT rosters, they own most of their aircraft outright, they're spending squillions of quids on cockpit & avionics upgrades for the B757 investing in them to keep them for the next 7-10 years & brand new B73NG's to replace the older B733's. They're increasing in size at a cautious rate but the rise in share price glows of cautious, shrewd management. When I joined it was 75p, now its around 525p in 5 years. Forward bookings are way ahead of already ambitious predictions for S2016, it's looking rosy.
The management just needs to give internal upgrades to it's most experienced SFO's, provide competitive T&C's more in-line with its competitors, introduce a Staff Travel scheme & a Rostering Agreement IF it wants to attract & retain its experienced crews.
Because all in all its not a bad job, with fun crews & simple flying.
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Bad luck NH! The personal phone call, albeit a rejection, is a very nice touch! Give it a go next year!
this and a bunch of other tests designed to see if a non-pilot was a good training risk may be good for selecting cadets from the X-box generation but us 15,000 hour old farts are not good in front of the games consol !
I don't have 15,000 hours but I'm heading towards old fart territory rapidly, so perhaps I need to brush up on my X Box skills. I'll have a word with Santa.
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What are the "longer sectors"? Is it the same as the longest sector bracket under the old pay system or a new even longer one?
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Friends have told me £1070 add on for SFO's.
They also had a 3% pay rise in October time which was back dated so all in all thats a 7% pay rise. SFO wages won't be far off £65k if you include sector pay.
They also had a 3% pay rise in October time which was back dated so all in all thats a 7% pay rise. SFO wages won't be far off £65k if you include sector pay.
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Still wrong...
My source said it was an immediate payrise of 3% back in june/july time.
Not October like I said so my mistake.
Not October like I said so my mistake.
No pay rise for any FD after the April one. And £65k for an SFO? Maybe the odd one or two B737 FO's hitting 900 hours, but for almost every other SFO, maybe £62k - AFTER next April's pay rise.
If you don't actually know, why comment?
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Daddy-Oh Yes they did, thats why more source said they got a pay rise.
So Station Calling that would answer your question.
Either way £62k a year (including sector) is pretty well paying.
So Station Calling that would answer your question.
Either way £62k a year (including sector) is pretty well paying.
