Jet2 Autumn 2014
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From: Either the back of a sim, or wherever Crewing send me.
Sorry to continue the APU off/on for one more post, but please bear in mind that there are many airports where APU use is banned from a short period after on blocks to a similar short period prior to push and start. I assume Ivan that you are referring to Nice, I'm afraid that is one such destination.
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From: In your head.
JFP, if the airport requires the APU to be shut down they should supply conditioned air, if there's no air available there's usually a caveat that the APU can stay on. What's the case in Nice?
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From: In t'sky
Inferring we have no consideration for passenger comfort is toss. I have wandered after ground crew on a number of occasions to get them to plug the air con in, and it is the reason we all got trained on the 300 to freeze the cabin in descent. At least new 800s will make the situation better.
As for it being SOP to turn the APU off.. It is. But if its too hot, we have the authority and backing of the company to deviate, as does every single pilot worldwide regardless of airline. Its called judgement.
As for it being SOP to turn the APU off.. It is. But if its too hot, we have the authority and backing of the company to deviate, as does every single pilot worldwide regardless of airline. Its called judgement.
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From: England
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The new aircraft are great news, but ultimately i'd rather be just as happy on something older, on more money, with a better pension, eating crew food in a spanking uniform whilst thinking about where I'm going to enjoy my staff travel.
Or brand new, and all of the above.
The new aircraft are great news, but ultimately i'd rather be just as happy on something older, on more money, with a better pension, eating crew food in a spanking uniform whilst thinking about where I'm going to enjoy my staff travel.
Or brand new, and all of the above.
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From: Polymer Records
The question now really is will the arrival of 27 new shiny NG's stop people leaving?
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From: Button Moon
scratching....
As Artie rightly says and as I'm sure you know, shiny new aircraft is something that's a VERY long way down the list of things that people want. I'm genuinely pleased that the business is moving forward with the first steps towards fleet renewal while adding some capacity to the flying program. That being said, the financial pressures that come with new aircraft will pose a whole new challenge for the big wigs at LFFH and I'm pretty certain those at the coal face will suffer as a result. After all, the shareholders will be expecting a serious return on this enormous capital expenditure.
At a time when morale is through the floor and people on both sides of the door are either leaving or seriously looking to leave, I for one would be rather troubled if it came to light that any level of management were naive enough to believe that announcing some replacement 737's will make people think twice before hitting the 'submit' button on their BA, TOM, TCX, , FR, EK, TAG et al applications. Just my two cents worth and time will of course tell.
As Artie rightly says and as I'm sure you know, shiny new aircraft is something that's a VERY long way down the list of things that people want. I'm genuinely pleased that the business is moving forward with the first steps towards fleet renewal while adding some capacity to the flying program. That being said, the financial pressures that come with new aircraft will pose a whole new challenge for the big wigs at LFFH and I'm pretty certain those at the coal face will suffer as a result. After all, the shareholders will be expecting a serious return on this enormous capital expenditure.
At a time when morale is through the floor and people on both sides of the door are either leaving or seriously looking to leave, I for one would be rather troubled if it came to light that any level of management were naive enough to believe that announcing some replacement 737's will make people think twice before hitting the 'submit' button on their BA, TOM, TCX, , FR, EK, TAG et al applications. Just my two cents worth and time will of course tell.
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From: High n Blighty
Interestingly (or not) Jet2 still sending out emails re exciting opportunities for rated/ none rated DE crews. I know guys who have thousands of CM1 time that have heard zero, despite completing the assessments. Not even a PFO.
infant they are still receiving the same emails, re exciting opportunities.
.Its a Bizarre flying world we live in. Little choice. So impersonal.
infant they are still receiving the same emails, re exciting opportunities.
.Its a Bizarre flying world we live in. Little choice. So impersonal.
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From: Holland
Hi guys,
Apologies if this has been covered before, but just wondered, after training and on a 100% contract, what sort of monthly take home pay can a year 1 FO expect? I see the basic salary is about £50k.. What sort of money does hourly flight pay add on etc?
Apologies if this has been covered before, but just wondered, after training and on a 100% contract, what sort of monthly take home pay can a year 1 FO expect? I see the basic salary is about £50k.. What sort of money does hourly flight pay add on etc?
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From: Button Moon
Road shows gathering pace, there's one planned at EMA now. Competitive salary on offer apparently.
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From: Centre of Universe
Jet2 Autumn 2014
Tonker even if u did have a better salary, pension, food, staff travel and new aeroplanes you would still moan because that's what (British) pilots do best. Only if you have been made redundant x times do you realise how lucky you are to have a salary paid on time. Many crews I suspect see Jet2 as a moving on to better things airline particularly FO's and some see it as a career airline depending on their own situ. Fact is UK AOC's are ever dwindling and I personally think it's great Jet2 are buying something new probably for the first time in its history. There are also a lot of guys and girls who work twice as hard as you Nigel's and on a lot less pay. Although they are probably used to moaning Nigel's many who have joined recently only to realise that the grass is not so green and cor blimey there's a lot of roster disruption at Jet2 would you believe. The only good news is in what say six weeks you'll be moaning your not flying and got too many standbys
Rant over
Rant over
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From: far too low
Jet2 Autumn 2014
Twiglet,
I had retired but I decided to come back one last time. The only people who are happy at jet2 are those that have been made redundant multiple times. It can't get no worse. Except being made redundant again (just it can). Everyone else either wants to leave or hasn't yet realised that.
Me I work less earn more have a better pension, see my family more and most importantly, My roster isn't a wet rag for screwing to play target practice with.
Oh and Mr good cat. When those rose tinted glasses finally wear off. Don't come crying here. You'll have the same bar stewards as managers but with only half the cash.
I had retired but I decided to come back one last time. The only people who are happy at jet2 are those that have been made redundant multiple times. It can't get no worse. Except being made redundant again (just it can). Everyone else either wants to leave or hasn't yet realised that.
Me I work less earn more have a better pension, see my family more and most importantly, My roster isn't a wet rag for screwing to play target practice with.
Oh and Mr good cat. When those rose tinted glasses finally wear off. Don't come crying here. You'll have the same bar stewards as managers but with only half the cash.
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From: Somewhere
I believe you'll be bound by the same rules as everyone else - that is max 9 days in the summer. Depending when you join, you may be too late for the closed bidding, so might have to try your luck with free bidding (there is very little leave available in the summer during the free bidding period).