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Old 20th Feb 2015, 10:55
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You're being overly defensive. My comments were in response to someone highlighting that forced seasonal employment is still going on at TOM. I was simply comparing the situation to TCX which had the same "problems" in the past but clearly not right now as 30+ FOs have just started on a perm basis. I didn't intend for it to become all about TCX!
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 19:13
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New Joiner Pension

Thomson intends to impose a reduction in the employer DC pension contribution rate for new joiners from 15% to 7%. The first group of newstarters to be affected will be joining the airline on 26 February 2015.
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Old 21st Feb 2015, 04:50
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I would probably advise all new joiners not to sign the pension document and speak with TOM company council via BALPA to find out what's potentially In the pipeline. I believe the workforce won't stand for this change as it goes against agreements in place.

Your given the pension documents to fill out at a later date so seek that advice first so no rush to sign and potentially lock yourself in.
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Old 21st Feb 2015, 19:12
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I'm hoping the jack brigade stands up on this one, it's a necessity imo! If the company can just totally disregard agreements in place as well as the process and promises recently given, then everyone should be completely angered by this as we've basically been duped by their letters....it certainly ruffled my feathers and I support strong action against this.

Wrt to the pension, during my joining process, I was given the documents and had to fill out at home as it requires birth certificates etc so I would use this time wisely to seek council. Incase signing the agreement locks one in or makes it more complicated for the CC to reverse.
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 10:15
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For the MON pilots joining TCX - out of the chip pan, into the fire:

Thomas Cook holds secret talks to offload airline arm | The Sunday Times

If you want to fly TCX pax join easy or Thomson.
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 12:01
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Easy declined to renew the 2012 deal so not entirely true.
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 13:41
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Ultimately all leisure airlines have their days numbered. Might as well join forces and team up now.
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 15:41
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Utter crap.
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 18:40
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yoeman, have you not noticed how many EZY and RYR flights now fly into and out of the usual bucket and spade destinations? EZY might be able to champion the low cost long haul flight if they can get a headstart by buying the TCX airline (think Europe not just the UK). RYR could buy the TUI group airline
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 18:43
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Yeah, MOL with his award winning customer service! Getting a loco flight is one thing but a loco RYR holiday, No thanks!
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 20:01
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So people fly with EZY/RYR to the likes of TFS, FUE, Kos, Iraklion to visit their relatives do they? They use cheap flights and sort out their own holidays/accommodation, and the trend is increasing dramatically as the air traveller becomes more savvy.
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Old 22nd Feb 2015, 20:33
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You are correct, of course people book flights with RYR and book their own accom.
You said that RYR could buy TUI and I was amused by the potential of a "RYR package holiday".
RYR are only interested in point to point flying with no strings. Works most of the time, but not for example when you get left down in CFU for a week with all extra expense on the PAX like last summer!!

I agree with YEOMANS reply to your post 117...

Sorry for the thread drift!
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Old 28th Apr 2015, 17:36
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So had a notice today to state that Thomson will be recruiting again with the indication of group/personal assessments at the end of September begining of october.

So if your interested give em a look.
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Old 28th Apr 2015, 21:52
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What's the chance of them inviting Non Type Rated candidates this time?
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Old 28th Apr 2015, 22:29
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Slim at best unfortunately.
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Old 28th Apr 2015, 22:41
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TR'd
Summer ONLY and you pay 7K for 'training' ???
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Old 28th Apr 2015, 22:43
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Can't hurt to apply tho,
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 06:09
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Naaah not on those terms......
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 11:24
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For info to prospective joiners, after a spirited campaign from BALPA and the pilot group, our new joiners this year maintained their pensions in line with the rest of the pilot group. It was a great result and showed that even though less than 1% of the pilots were affected, the 99% wouldn't accept it.

Unfortunately this isn't the end of the problem as the company has intentions of reducing new joiner pension provisions over the next few years. How this will pan out is anyone's guess.

The company makes no secret of its problem with seasonality and a new joiner should expect a PPY contract to potentially last for several years, added to this the 7000 one is expected to pay for training (this I find particularly unsavoury) makes TOM not quite the option it once was.

If however, one gets over the 7k and manages to get full time fairly soon then it can still be a good career airline.

Just my opinion, good luck to those who choose to apply later in the year.
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 12:37
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Career....good one!
12-15yrs to Command isn't a career. Neither is paying to join an airline fully experienced and type rated. They are a joke, along with the others racing to the bottom with their T's & C's, as they financially pat the bloke on the back who comes up with this s
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