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Old 11th Apr 2018, 13:01
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Has anybody any recent experience of the selection process.
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Old 11th Apr 2018, 15:42
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Join Date: Feb 2018
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What a fantastic group where short sightedness will do nothing but leave it in shambles

Probably scared shitless of Jet2 pushing their boundaries - hence hedging to remain ahead of competition by reducing the biggest cost -salaries/T&C,s

Caveat Emptor
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Old 11th Apr 2018, 19:16
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Join Date: Jan 2004
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1-2: Off
3: Late eve DLM (land on the 4th)
4: Late eve PMI (Land on the 5th)
5: Rest
6-8: Off
8: Blank day
9: Mid morn FUE
10: Early Morn KOS
11: Off
12: Early morn PUY
13: Early morn PMI
14-15: Off
FWIW, when I was at Thomson, they gave me a duty on every single rostered blank day, at short notice, no block window protection and no Flexi.

not impressed
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Old 11th Apr 2018, 21:00
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Originally Posted by hec7or View Post
FWIW, when I was at Thomson, they gave me a duty on every single rostered blank day, at short notice, no block window protection and no Flexi.

not impressed
To be honest, you must have been at Thomson quite a while ago as block window protection has been one of the good things about the roster for many years. But this is the sort of thing the company wish to change.
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 08:33
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As far as I know it’s always been the case that on blank days you can be asked to work but don’t have to (the only caveat to this is that when operating operating away from your home base, when asked to you have no choice). As you say it does not attract flexi (day off payment) so nobody (I know) does it and I can’t remember the last time Crewing asked so at home base these blanks are effectively just more days off.
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 08:38
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Originally Posted by nosmo king View Post
As far as I know itís always been the case that on blank days you can be asked to work but donít have to (the only caveat to this is that when operating operating away from your home base, when asked to you have no choice). As you say it does not attract flexi (day off payment) so nobody (I know) does it and I canít remember the last time Crewing asked so at home base these are effectively just more days off.
Totally agree, never worked a blank day.
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 08:49
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FWIW

May 75/6 roster

3 off
5 on
5 off
1 on
6 off
5 on
3 off
3 on

3 nights away and one extended duty in there too. Iíd expect to be slightly busier july-september. So 17 days off will probably reduce by a couple.

Would I join again? depends on union/company talks, Iíd expect with expansion plans next Summer, not much will change but who knows. I wouldnít leave a LCC with a command imminent though as we are still 10 years plus for LHS.
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 12:16
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Morning havenít posted for years, but for info.
Current command review board will be looking at joiners from 2013/14
Recruitment for lower experience will open in the next couple of weeks, north of 100 needed on top of the 30 or so in the current recruitment.
As a 737 trainer I have met many new joiners over the last years and very few regret their decision. Iím not going to say what anyone should or shouldnít do, but generally there is always two sides to a story from the miserable posts. The current climate with management has definitely changed due poor communication mainly, but personally Iím not worried.
Oh and itís not a Xmas bonus, itís a end of company tax year bonus, which just so happens to be paid in December. Yes it was a joke that it wasnít paid in itís two forms-but BIG BALPA are on to it

Apply, go through selection and then make your own mind up if given the opportunity.

I look forward to meeting many of you in the future
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 12:25
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As Iím sure you know five minutes is a long time in aviation, so there is a chance much of the above has already changed!
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 12:30
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Join Date: Mar 2018
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Does anybody know if there are any alternatives to the forced winter Scandinavian detachment? PYW for example?

This very factor is deterring me from booking an assessment at the moment.
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 13:21
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theflyingbus;

Appreciate seeing the other pov. (as well as other poster's replies). Cheers
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Old 12th Apr 2018, 22:25
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Originally Posted by Paddingtonbear View Post
Does anybody know if there are any alternatives to the forced winter Scandinavian detachment? PYW for example?

This very factor is deterring me from booking an assessment at the moment.
The company aren't currently offering summer only contracts, everyone joins full time and can bid for part time working the day they join.

The have been a number of 757 rated pilots in the last 12 months who have joined straight onto a UK only contract. If you join and are indeed sent to Scandinavia in the winter (the work/trips on the 767 are quite good if you're willing to do some long haul), you can bid for a UK only base. With the expansion I wouldn't imagine you would have to do more than one winter over there, if that...

As theflyingbus says, not many people come here and regret it. I'm not worried about what's going to happen - I hope (and dare I say confident) there won't be any cuts and maybe positives to come. It's a great place to work and whatever those who experienced the 70/80s say, it's still one of the best career airlines in the UK. If you're close to command at an LCC and the left seat is important to you, don't bother. If you're after better options of lifestyle (long haul, short haul, lots of bases, part time, RTW trips, detachments etc.) and willing to wait to move seats then apply and see what they have to offer you - can always say no! It's a long time to command because very few people leave and I can't see that changing, however this is falling drastically with expansion happening.

Good luck.
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Old 13th Apr 2018, 00:05
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G1991 many thanks for taking the time to reply and shedding some reality on how things are at the moment. Like you say, it's probably worth taking taking the 'pain' for 1 year to feel the gain long term.

I have heard that a former (before my time) colleague went to TOM 18 months ago and has grossed £104k this last year. Obviously in an FO position.

I am indeed closing in on Command in my current outfit, but I fully appreciate the fact that a command is not the be all and end all....
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Old 13th Apr 2018, 18:15
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G1991

Many thanks for the reply. Certainly some food for thought in there.

All the best.
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Old 13th Apr 2018, 22:32
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Originally Posted by Paddingtonbear View Post
G1991 many thanks for taking the time to reply and shedding some reality on how things are at the moment. Like you say, it's probably worth taking taking the 'pain' for 1 year to feel the gain long term.

I have heard that a former (before my time) colleague went to TOM 18 months ago and has grossed £104k this last year. Obviously in an FO position.

I am indeed closing in on Command in my current outfit, but I fully appreciate the fact that a command is not the be all and end all....
If you enthusiasticly partake in the Flexible Working System then you can easily break the six figure mark Y1, why youíd want to with Hammond sniffing around Iím not sure, but you can always offset it into your pension etc. We used to be able to offset a certain amount into company shares but that was a U.K. benefit and now weíre ĎGlobal TUIí we take part in their post tax (albeit it not too dissimilar) scheme.

Good luck with your application.
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Old 14th Apr 2018, 11:25
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100k is possible on the 75 fleet but unlikely, that person would be looking at selling 50 days a year back, which would mean working most of their leave days. More realistic is to expect a couple of flexiís (day off payments) a month putting there pay into the 90s.
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Old 14th Apr 2018, 11:53
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Originally Posted by DooblerChina View Post
100k is possible on the 75 fleet but unlikely, that person would be looking at selling 50 days a year back, which would mean working most of their leave days. More realistic is to expect a couple of flexiís (day off payments) a month putting there pay into the 90s.
I would reiterate that doing a large number of ĎFlexií payments is theoretically possible, but it is highly unlikely. The 6 months from May through October are busy and expecting to do a couple a month during that time would be reasonable. And thatís about 12. Which works out around £5000 extra.

Those who suggest FOs will earn significantly more than this are either being disengenous or are promoting an expectation based upon the experience of an almost nonexistent few.
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Old 14th Apr 2018, 12:39
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I agree - don't come expecting to earn over 100k. I would say earning that in year 1 is not impossible but rare. You'd have to do a lot of flexis, even more when you consider that everyone has 7k deducted from their gross salary in year 1 for training.. and probably not on the 737 either due seasonality.
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Old 14th Apr 2018, 14:21
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For what it’s worth, I’ve grossed £85k as a year 2 FO and received 11 day off payments, but that doesn’t mean I worked 11 of my off days, some duties are worth up to 3 day off payments for 1 day off. I’ve turned down a lot of flexi out of shear laziness and could have grossed an extra 5k easily. So £10k+ on flexi alone is certainly possible.

I saw my buddies payslip last week, he’ll hit 95k as a year 3 FO on short haul. Long haul FOs will earn more.
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Old 14th Apr 2018, 19:53
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FWIW

I would agree £90-£100k possible as a F/O, but having done both SH and LH, my experience now is that pay is higher doing SH. I think it used to be the other way around but the advent of duty rig changed that. And def more Flexi available on SH.
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