Monarch in turbulence
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Anyone on the inside got any gen with regard this job posting?
First Officer Recruitment with Monarch | 1401408524
If you click through to their site there's actually no link to the application. How is life in MON post the Greybull bailout? I'm well aware the t's and c's are nowhere near what they used to be, but day to day has there been much change in rostering and quality of work/life balance etc. Cheers in advance
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If you click through to their site there's actually no link to the application. How is life in MON post the Greybull bailout? I'm well aware the t's and c's are nowhere near what they used to be, but day to day has there been much change in rostering and quality of work/life balance etc. Cheers in advance
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Last comms from HR pasted below:
Subject : MONARCH 2014/2015 PILOT RECRUITMENT
Sender : *****************
Date Posted : 05-Oct-2014 ********
Good morning
I hope you are well and know its been some time since you received any communication from us. We are now writing to
advise you there will be no further recruitment taking place for the remainder of 2014 or early 2015 due to some
restructuring taking place in the business, therefore, your details will now remain on hold for a period of 12 months
after which time any new pilot recruitment/vacancies will need to be reapplied for via your online accounts. Should
you have found alternative employment since your original application, I would be most grateful if you could advise me
accordingly so that we may keep our records up to date.
We are sorry to disappoint you but should the situation change we will of course be back in contact with you. In the
meantime, if you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me but I thank you for your continued
interest in the Monarch Group.
Regards
M****************
Sender : *****************
Date Posted : 05-Oct-2014 ********
Good morning
I hope you are well and know its been some time since you received any communication from us. We are now writing to
advise you there will be no further recruitment taking place for the remainder of 2014 or early 2015 due to some
restructuring taking place in the business, therefore, your details will now remain on hold for a period of 12 months
after which time any new pilot recruitment/vacancies will need to be reapplied for via your online accounts. Should
you have found alternative employment since your original application, I would be most grateful if you could advise me
accordingly so that we may keep our records up to date.
We are sorry to disappoint you but should the situation change we will of course be back in contact with you. In the
meantime, if you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me but I thank you for your continued
interest in the Monarch Group.
Regards
M****************
Good morning
I hope you are well and know its been some time since you received any communication from us.
I hope you are well and know its been some time since you received any communication from us.
The sender seems to be dancing between 'I' and 'we/our' later on in the communication, and it all sounds very bland.
Are you SURE that this came from Monarch or has their HR department been taking lessons from some Nigerian cousins?
The short answer to your question mixmaster would be No.We still have the same crap rostering system and random work patterns.
I am not surprised that HR have cocked up the application process. The shambles they created over the last few months and crass distrubution of emails to those who were facing compulsory redundancy must have made them the laughing stock of the airline industry.
If the HR director had any professional pride she should have taken responsibility for her department's failures and resigned but she contimues to oversee her failing department. Transferring the entire department to Lagos would be an improvement.
The letter above is genuine and reminds me of an email that was sent on behalf of the Chief Pilot a few months ago to the pilots.It is an accurate representation of the ability of the departments which have failed to make the company profitable yet somehow cling onto their jobs.
The next event for the pilots is the mass transfer to part year working and another pay cut (10%)in May.
You can probably get a feeling for the current level of morale from this post.
I am not surprised that HR have cocked up the application process. The shambles they created over the last few months and crass distrubution of emails to those who were facing compulsory redundancy must have made them the laughing stock of the airline industry.
If the HR director had any professional pride she should have taken responsibility for her department's failures and resigned but she contimues to oversee her failing department. Transferring the entire department to Lagos would be an improvement.
The letter above is genuine and reminds me of an email that was sent on behalf of the Chief Pilot a few months ago to the pilots.It is an accurate representation of the ability of the departments which have failed to make the company profitable yet somehow cling onto their jobs.
The next event for the pilots is the mass transfer to part year working and another pay cut (10%)in May.
You can probably get a feeling for the current level of morale from this post.
Last edited by tubby linton; 4th Jan 2015 at 20:35.
The 15% is not a surprise as it reflects the move to part year working, but it is the second pay cut in less than a year. For senior pilots this amounts to a total cut of 45%. The airline is now recruiting pilots to replace some of those it paid to leave the business in the last few months.
Tubby Linton, that is not strictly correct. There are people still to leave in April with the redundancy payoff however before they go we will have recruited.....
Right off to find the big picture...
Right off to find the big picture...
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Personally I believe/hope that we'll be back to 100% by winter 2016. The bleeding of cash had to be halted in these winter months, and unfortunately the staff were sitting ducks, easy targets. 
Our saviours are going to need a return on their investment. So winter schedules are required to be built up in the name of efficiency. I'm sure pilots will then need to fly 900hrs per yr.
But then again, I could be completely wrong
Our saviours are going to need a return on their investment. So winter schedules are required to be built up in the name of efficiency. I'm sure pilots will then need to fly 900hrs per yr.
But then again, I could be completely wrong
Rhino, I Was referring to the current shortage of FOs against the FTE requirement ,without any additions of pilots still to leave. I am not sure how many are swimming in the BA holding pool but I forsee a constant requirement to recruit replacments for them over the next twelve months. The training department are going to be very busy.
Based on the information going around concerning pay cuts, I think we're about to see the first ever Airbus Direct Entry First Officer position paying less than £35,000. Take home pay £2,000 per month. What a 3 year London bus driver takes home.
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Tubby perhaps it would have better if mon had gone bust for the likes of you. One suspects the ground staff have Also lost their jobs and had pay cuts. It's also hard for them to get other jobs perhaps as easily as the pilots. One thing for sure is they will all be looking over their shoulder for the grim reaper coming again whilst you ll just moan about your rubbish roster! ....
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A friend of mine works in Monarch HQ in a middle management role and quite frankly he's depressed. He's constantly arguing with his wife and being short with his kids. All because he's terrified he's going to lose his job. I don't think it's a fun place for anyone right now.
Mister Angry, I think that you have misconstrued my various posts. I am not sure why you think that I would have been better off if the company had failed.
I would imagine that a ground person at Luton ,and I know a lot of them personally, could have walked straight into another job with the orange brigade for probably the same salary. Some members of the crew training and rostering departments have done just this. I doubt that many members of the ground staff have lost 45% of their salary and almost half of their expected pension, as I have.
My roster has not really changed over the last few years. It is produced by a poor quality computer programme and is subject to constant change, unlike the fixed patterns you probably enjoy.
As part of the restructure the airline has abandoned ad-hoc flying because nobody in the back offices of Luton can get it right.The airline has only been doing them for 47 years but we still cock them up and lose money.
For example our Flight Ops Technical group only work office hours and refuse to answer the phone during lunchtimes. It doesn't matter that you are stuck down route needing some abnormal performance figures due to an unserviceability. Please call, back at 2pm is the standard response.
These sort of inefficiencies need correcting.
At the last count almost 25% of the flightdeck contingent have left the business and the remainder have taken draconian pay cuts. I do not believe that the ground staff in Luton have had to face such life changing changes in circumstance.
I am not sure why I am writing this to justify my position but Mister Angry if you can offer me a well paying pilot job in the UK with good terms and conditions I will take you up on your offer. In the meantime please give all the unfortunate employees some empathy as the situation they face has been foisted upon them by some very unscrupulous former owners who have sallied off in their super yacht having royally
their employees.
I would imagine that a ground person at Luton ,and I know a lot of them personally, could have walked straight into another job with the orange brigade for probably the same salary. Some members of the crew training and rostering departments have done just this. I doubt that many members of the ground staff have lost 45% of their salary and almost half of their expected pension, as I have.
My roster has not really changed over the last few years. It is produced by a poor quality computer programme and is subject to constant change, unlike the fixed patterns you probably enjoy.
As part of the restructure the airline has abandoned ad-hoc flying because nobody in the back offices of Luton can get it right.The airline has only been doing them for 47 years but we still cock them up and lose money.
For example our Flight Ops Technical group only work office hours and refuse to answer the phone during lunchtimes. It doesn't matter that you are stuck down route needing some abnormal performance figures due to an unserviceability. Please call, back at 2pm is the standard response.
These sort of inefficiencies need correcting.
At the last count almost 25% of the flightdeck contingent have left the business and the remainder have taken draconian pay cuts. I do not believe that the ground staff in Luton have had to face such life changing changes in circumstance.
I am not sure why I am writing this to justify my position but Mister Angry if you can offer me a well paying pilot job in the UK with good terms and conditions I will take you up on your offer. In the meantime please give all the unfortunate employees some empathy as the situation they face has been foisted upon them by some very unscrupulous former owners who have sallied off in their super yacht having royally
their employees.