Jet 2 Recruitment!
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From: north of barlu
RAFAT
Back in the 90's when there was no pay to fly and bonds were the way training finance was conducted there was a lot of speculation about the restraint of trade issue.
With the number of pilots who left companies before the end of the bond period I was always surprised that no pilot ever ended up in court with the company trying to recover the bond.
The only conclusion that I could come to is that the companies did not want to test the bond contract in open court, what usually happened is the both parties agreed on a settlement and a privacy clause so the true value of the bond did not become public knowledge.
The truth of the matter is that this issue will only be resolved if some one takes it to court.
With the number of pilots who left companies before the end of the bond period I was always surprised that no pilot ever ended up in court with the company trying to recover the bond.
The only conclusion that I could come to is that the companies did not want to test the bond contract in open court, what usually happened is the both parties agreed on a settlement and a privacy clause so the true value of the bond did not become public knowledge.
The truth of the matter is that this issue will only be resolved if some one takes it to court.
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From: Newcastle NI
It down to what you sign up for in the first place, don't sign and then moan, there were quite a few baby guys who didn't like what was on offer and went else where, equally a good few turned down other operators offers so they could stay in the UK with a promise of the Midlands when able.
Most companies bond for training which is fair, some have started to push it a bit further to lock you in. Very few companies now care whether you've walked away from a bond if you can show your previous employer was a ball & chain company.
Its very simple, if you don't want people to leave treat them fairly and with respect, yes a few will always take the piss, but better to show the rest of your employee's that it is their ex mates that are taking the piss rather than the company taking the piss!!
The baby pilots who joined Norwegian were not bonded for the NG conversion, were paid full basic salary after completion of 2 week ground school course (daily rate during ground school including HTL) and full salary including allowances from start of production i.e. line training all are on a 1 months notice contract and two have left after a very short time and i understand the company was very grown up about it, basically if for what ever reason your not happy they'd rather let you go and they were paid every last penny owed, both parties move on and no incrimination or negative comment on forums such as this, all rather grown up.
Most companies bond for training which is fair, some have started to push it a bit further to lock you in. Very few companies now care whether you've walked away from a bond if you can show your previous employer was a ball & chain company.
Its very simple, if you don't want people to leave treat them fairly and with respect, yes a few will always take the piss, but better to show the rest of your employee's that it is their ex mates that are taking the piss rather than the company taking the piss!!
The baby pilots who joined Norwegian were not bonded for the NG conversion, were paid full basic salary after completion of 2 week ground school course (daily rate during ground school including HTL) and full salary including allowances from start of production i.e. line training all are on a 1 months notice contract and two have left after a very short time and i understand the company was very grown up about it, basically if for what ever reason your not happy they'd rather let you go and they were paid every last penny owed, both parties move on and no incrimination or negative comment on forums such as this, all rather grown up.
Joined: Dec 2010
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From: London Town
Jet2 Operations
Has anyone applied for the Flight Planning job with Jet2 (vacancy posted in April 2013)? Applied in late April, haven't heard anything yet. Anyone any idea how long it takes for them to let you know if your application was successful?
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From: UK, In the middle at the bottom and sometimes in LHR!
Seymoreskye,
Personally, I would do a couple of years instructing, with is invaluable flying, honing your skills and passing them on.
A lot of the guys I fly with have been instructors and they have gone on to be great line trainers, due to the fact they instructed before joining an airline.
You have plenty of time to get into that big shiny jet.
Just a thought.
Personally, I would do a couple of years instructing, with is invaluable flying, honing your skills and passing them on.
A lot of the guys I fly with have been instructors and they have gone on to be great line trainers, due to the fact they instructed before joining an airline.
You have plenty of time to get into that big shiny jet.
Just a thought.
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From: Hopping
Thanks Mackey & Scratch,
Two different opinions but both very fair.
I feel fortunate to have options and I feel the instructing will also offer me some security to fall back on to as the future is never certain.
I understand that the Shiny gives me quicker career advancement maybe and certainly higher pay to clear my loans so if that came along I would find it impossible to say no.
My short term goal is to get some FI time in, 1000 hours minimum and build up my experience. Next step on the ladder I suppose!
Thanks
Two different opinions but both very fair.
I feel fortunate to have options and I feel the instructing will also offer me some security to fall back on to as the future is never certain.
I understand that the Shiny gives me quicker career advancement maybe and certainly higher pay to clear my loans so if that came along I would find it impossible to say no.
My short term goal is to get some FI time in, 1000 hours minimum and build up my experience. Next step on the ladder I suppose!
Thanks
Joined: May 2007
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From: Manchester
Hi Seymoreskye,
Instructing is fun and rewarding so I'd highly recommend it, the FI course isn't easy though!
Anyone else know if instructing experience would be an advantage if Jet2 were to start NTR recruitment later this year?
Thanks,
Instructing is fun and rewarding so I'd highly recommend it, the FI course isn't easy though!
Anyone else know if instructing experience would be an advantage if Jet2 were to start NTR recruitment later this year?
Thanks,
Joined: Mar 2010
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From: Northern Hemisphere
Shaman,
New EDI/GLA crew will have either EDI or GLA as your primary base where a majority of flights will be operated from but as you are dual based, you can be rostered operate flights from either.
New EDI/GLA crew will have either EDI or GLA as your primary base where a majority of flights will be operated from but as you are dual based, you can be rostered operate flights from either.
Joined: Apr 2003
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From: UK
Nukehunt,
Thank you for answering my query. I was interested in a contract position but I am carless at the moment so a Scottish base sounds like it would be out for me unless I can rent a cheap car somewhere...
Thank you for answering my query. I was interested in a contract position but I am carless at the moment so a Scottish base sounds like it would be out for me unless I can rent a cheap car somewhere...
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From: England
I believe you can arrange crew rates at hotels but I think it's limited to the usual night stop hotels. Couldn't tell you what the GLA or EDI hotels are though.
I'd have thought it would be relatively simple to get public transport between the two bases. Or buy a hundred quid banger.
I'd have thought it would be relatively simple to get public transport between the two bases. Or buy a hundred quid banger.