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Norwegian B737 Pilot selection (Updated)

Old 16th Dec 2018, 13:57
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Heard the same thing. Rumours are about major restructuring after Xmas as the company are out of cash.
IAG seems to be the rumour of the week, again. Hope for the best ��
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 16:07
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Originally Posted by BluSdUp View Post
Hi
A general question on all Norwegian operation.
Rumor has it that all recruitment has stopped!
Anyone in the training department or in the process that can deny or confirm this?
We are simply not recruiting direct entry RCA or CPT anymore. People are already flying 40-50h max each month. Loads of people going for upgrade. And we are overall pretty staffed up for the next couple of aircraft to come.
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Old 16th Dec 2018, 19:18
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I fear it is a little more complicated than just not recruiting DE CPT/RCAs. Having passed the assessment in August of this year, and hearing very little regarding course start dates, an email came through in the last few days (4+ months later) saying there will be no course dates for the start of 2019. Coupled with the fact a number of roadshows appear to have been cancelled in the last couple of months, presumably they were not solely intended to attract DE CPT/RCA, I would conclude either NAS recruited/attracted far more qualified RYR pilots than they hoped for, or they are having to scale back growth expectations inline with available cash.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 09:41
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Originally Posted by MHR_738 View Post
I would conclude either NAS recruited/attracted far more qualified RYR pilots than they hoped for, or they are having to scale back growth expectations inline with available cash.
I think the latter..
I'm in the pool (CAPT787) and I got the same letter.
If it were RYR pilots flooding the 737, it would not effect the 787.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 10:37
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Swedish aoc on its way, irish going out. Basically most if not all SH bases and some LH aircrafts also to be transferred. Swedish tax on flying gone, so a bit of shuffling at the moment. I believe recruitment will commence again after new years.
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 11:17
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Originally Posted by directmisbi View Post
Swedish aoc on its way, irish going out. Basically most if not all SH bases and some LH aircrafts also to be transferred. Swedish tax on flying gone, so a bit of shuffling at the moment. I believe recruitment will commence again after new years.
That sounds much better
Any more info on that?
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Old 17th Dec 2018, 19:47
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The Swedish AOC is already up and running, although unclear when and how many A/C will transfer, currently 1 Max on the AOC with 1 more to follow soon.
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Old 20th Dec 2018, 19:44
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Latest rumor today is that Norwegian has canceled some initial type rating courses.

Any one on the inside can confirm this?
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 02:01
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Bases are being closed and people are getting laid off.
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 06:06
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People are not getting laid off but, offered a transfer to long haul or other bases in the network including some of the Scandinavian bases.
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 09:39
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Crew meals (removal)
Breakfast in hotels (removal)
City centre Hotels (removal)
No shows at hotels
Sick leave (some bases are running at 30%!)
Permanent fees (e.g. TRI/TRE allowances)
Allowances in general
Smaller bases on variable rosters

Many 737 bases closure

Plus:

Either - Flight crew by 7% and Cabin crew by 4% ; Or – Flight crew & Cabin crew by 5.8%

Dublin from 6 to 1 (or 2) planes based, but possibility of bidding for a position on either the long-haul fleet or an alternative short-haul base (IF any vacancies exist at this time).

All good, right?
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 09:55
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Originally Posted by dirk85 View Post
Crew meals (removal)
Breakfast in hotels (removal)
City centre Hotels (removal)
No shows at hotels
Sick leave (some bases are running at 30%!)
Permanent fees (e.g. TRI/TRE allowances)
Allowances in general
Smaller bases on variable rosters

Many 737 bases closure

Plus:

Either - Flight crew by 7% and Cabin crew by 4% ; Or – Flight crew & Cabin crew by 5.8%

Dublin from 6 to 1 (or 2) planes based, but possibility of bidding for a position on either the long-haul fleet or an alternative short-haul base (IF any vacancies exist at this time).

All good, right?
and exactly where has this info come from? Not via any of the companies nor the unions channels?
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 09:59
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Company meeting with unions, info all over the place this morning.
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 11:42
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Originally Posted by dirk85 View Post
Company meeting with unions, info all over the place this morning.
and where does it say anything about meals, hotels, percentages?
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 12:09
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lets be honest, internal comms is very poor, i mean, somebody from RYR broke the news on LinkedIn re base closures before most us knew!!!
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 14:04
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Originally Posted by Icejock View Post


and exactly where has this info come from? Not via any of the companies nor the unions channels?
IALPA, The Irish Pilots Union
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 20:39
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Originally Posted by dirk85 View Post
Crew meals (removal)
Breakfast in hotels (removal)
City centre Hotels (removal)
No shows at hotels
Sick leave (some bases are running at 30%!)
Permanent fees (e.g. TRI/TRE allowances)
Allowances in general
Smaller bases on variable rosters

Many 737 bases closure

Plus:

Either - Flight crew by 7% and Cabin crew by 4% ; Or – Flight crew & Cabin crew by 5.8%

Dublin from 6 to 1 (or 2) planes based, but possibility of bidding for a position on either the long-haul fleet or an alternative short-haul base (IF any vacancies exist at this time).

All good, right?

Well that info sounds like it came directly from O’leary’s office.. it’s BS, no such reductions as of yet.. just like Norwegian did not go under at New Years eve or was taken over by IAG on january 2nd.. stick to what Norwegian communicate, nothing else..
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 20:55
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Originally Posted by Jetavia View Post



Well that info sounds like it came directly from O’leary’s office.. it’s BS, no such reductions as of yet.. just like Norwegian did not go under at New Years eve or was taken over by IAG on january 2nd.. stick to what Norwegian communicate, nothing else..
Sadly, this is not fake news. It's all true and also communicated from the company just like this.

The removal of the crew meals and other factors relating to the hotel accommodation is however related to the 737.
The pay cuts however aren't.

The options regarding the pay cuts are apparently:
1: 7% FD / 4% CC
2: 5,8% FD&CC

Nothing is decided there yet however.

Shema Y'Israel.... or what should I say.
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 20:56
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It’s from the BALPA comms sadly. These are just ‘options’ for the time being.
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Old 17th Jan 2019, 20:57
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All FLL pilots have apparently been fired.
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