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Old 9th Dec 2012, 16:31
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Hi Matey

I understand SWG are crewing EDI in addition to Ireland next year, not instead of??
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Old 9th Dec 2012, 19:58
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Guys,

lets just be clear on the facts here as things are getting distorted. The 10 or so fixed term positions are in ADDITION to the 30 PPY positions on offer.
So what is/could be the reasoning behind offering the temp gigs whilst only 18 PPY's in total have been offered? And more importantly, why offer them to the guys who applied for PPY? and to quote the nice young lady from my assessment day..."you may see some fixed term positions advertised later this year but they won't effect you"? I'd like to think that it really is "we are still working on our establishment requirements for next year", but I fear it may be a cheap trick, stop gap, fill-a-void scenario whilst TOM wait for cheaper cadets for 2014??? But then again I am a conspiracy theorist
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Old 9th Dec 2012, 22:26
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Indeed, apologies if my post was misleading. The EDI work to be done by Sunwing is in addition to their regular Irish operation. There are rumblings from Transport Canada that any reciprocal flying should be on a "one for one" basis. At the moment our crews fly a lot more work in Canada than Sunwing do here, so the argument could be made for using Sunwing for the likes of the LBA work as well rather than contract pilots, in order to protect the number of crews and aircraft currently sent to Canada in the winter. At the moment the EDI and LBA work is a" testing the water" operation. Should it prove viable then it could lead to more PPY positions being created, or more Sunwing aircraft......who knows.
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Old 19th Dec 2012, 18:32
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Hypothetical Fleet Question.........

Thomson have a mixed fleet of 737NGs, 757s, 767-300s and now 787s coming online in the next few months. Thomson have 13 firm 787 orders and 13 787 options. Not certain how many will be operated exclusively out of the UK.

It is pure speculation and anything can happen, but is it reasonable to think Thomson will likely replace all 767s with 787s and take the full options for a total of 26 787s? Are we talking an eventual dual fleet of 737NGs and 787s in the long term? Any "informed" predictions or thoughts?

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Old 20th Dec 2012, 12:09
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Originally Posted by Iver View Post
Thomson have 13 firm 787 orders and 13 787 options. Not certain how many will be operated exclusively out of the UK.
TUI has 13 firm orders and 13 options, NOT Thomson. The aircraft will be operated by Thomson (UK), JetairFly (Belgium), TuiFly Nordic and ArkeFly (Netherlands).
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 12:42
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Cheers for the update. Hopefully TUI will eventually exercise the options and spread them around to the different groups. Anyone know how many likely to be operated by Thomson out of the firm order?
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 13:06
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From a mate at Arkefly, so don't take it as fact.

Thomson = 7
JetairFly = 2
Nordic = 1
ArkeFly = 3

But as usual anything can change.
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Old 20th Dec 2012, 13:27
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Thomson are taking 8, first two to be delivered in Feb (G-TUIA/TUIB) and then two in Apr (G-TUIC/TUID), 5th sometime in Dec (G-TUIE). Again as the above has posted anything can change though.
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Old 11th Jan 2013, 18:50
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Mate of mine flies the good-ole 757 for another carrier and has several thousand hours on it.

What is the likelihood, if Thomson continues to hire, that a spot on the 757 fleet become available (any UK base)? Or are all newhires at Thomson basically starting on the 737NG these days?

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Old 11th Jan 2013, 22:45
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Dream on for the 757. Too good a plane and too many people not wanting to leave it. Expect all 737 positions for the eternity. Then a say 6yr plus wait for a sniff at the 787. Before you get too exited that will probably require a base change as well.
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Old 11th Jan 2013, 23:20
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With 100+ conversions from Airbus and 75/76 fleets onto the 737 this winter alone the chances of recruitment onto the 756 fleet are zero. The growing 737 fleet will progressively take on more and more of the short/mid haul programme, and the 787 is replacing the 767. Some 757s will be retained to fly routes better suited to them than the 737, but there will be no recruitment needed for that. As for the 787, that represents a lifestyle choice (100% longhaul) that significant numbers are choosing to forego. As a result the list of pilots moving to the 787 stretches significantly down the seniority list.
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Old 13th Jan 2013, 18:57
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Good point matey but the the 787 went more senior on the last bid!
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Old 24th Jan 2013, 13:42
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Does anyone have a theory on how a delay to the 787 would affect the current plans? do you think they may have to dip into the hold pool for some additional recruitment?

How successful was the fixed term recruitment? if anyone knows!
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Old 25th Jan 2013, 23:24
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As far as the 787 situation is concerned all we have are internal communications of a very generic nature expressing faith etc etc.

The following are being touted as being for TOM, but I don't know if that is the case. I'm afraid I'm not clever enough to produce them as clickable links.

Non type rated 737NG Low hour first officers with C & M Recruitment Ltd | 465079

First Officer 737 Type Rated with C & M Recruitment Ltd | 465166

Oh...it did it for me!!

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Old 25th Jan 2013, 23:41
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Thanks Matey, It was my understanding that TOM pilots would highly oppose the use of contract agencies?
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Old 26th Jan 2013, 06:25
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The posts are advertised as permanent positions. Maybe TOM couldn't get anyone on the original temporary terms for Leeds, but this is speculation as I stress this may not even be for TOM. The UK/ Canada description fits, but why they wouldn't advertise under the TOM name doesn't though. Then there is the question of the hold pool people, none of which I have any answers for I'm afraid.

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Old 28th Jan 2013, 21:02
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Just curious - Why are some Thomson call signs "Castrol" (what the heck does this word mean - is it the oil company?) whereas other Thomson flights are "Thomson?"

And we watched a Thomson call-sign 767 landing in Barbados the other day. Aircraft however was painted "First Choice." CA and I were trying to figure out what the correlation was. Code share?

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Old 28th Jan 2013, 21:09
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it's not Castrol, it's Kestrel
from wikipedia:
In March 2008, the tourism division of the airline's parent group TUI AG, merged with First Choice Holidays PLC, forming the new company TUI Travel. Both Thomsonfly and First Choice Airways would be merged as Thomson Airways.
Thomsonfly Limited changed its name to Thomson Airways Limited in November 2008 and the Thomsonfly operating certificate was changed to Thomson Airways with effect from 1 November 2008. On that date, Thomsonfly and First Choice Airways both rebranded their operations to Thomson Airways, merging with a fleet of 75 aircraft. There is however an order of 12 new Boeing 787 aircraft which will make the fleet 75 once more.
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 21:09
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Sure someone will beat me to this but... Thomson and First Choice Airways used to be two separate airlines, but merged their operations a few years back and now operate under the "Thomson" name and callsign. The aircraft still in the old First Choice livery are leaving the fleet before too long, so were not re-painted.

On the subject of "Castrol" - are you sure you're not confusing Thomson and Thomas Cook Airlines? Thomas Cook use the callsign "Kestrel".
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Old 28th Jan 2013, 21:57
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Yes! thank you Zippy, I was confusing the two. So they are 2 different airlines then?

While on that note - where did "KESTREL" come from - owner's name maybe? And does Thomas Cook still exist or have they merged with someone else?

Thanks for the info.
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