Emirates - not the answer!
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From: Dubai
Built4Speed - sorry mate not ex-lowcost but exQF. The move to EK was the worst in my career. Time to get out before things get worse! 
DavidJH - I did warn you! Its pointless chasing EK Recruitment they probably think "We're Emirates so who cares". Most of them are ex-pilots who have lost their medical and need to be thrown back into the dunnie!
Just heard from my neighbor who is a doctor at the EKClinic and apparently they are now being pushed not to sign crews sick as it is effecting the rosters and operation! Down the slope we go!!
DavidJH - I did warn you! Its pointless chasing EK Recruitment they probably think "We're Emirates so who cares". Most of them are ex-pilots who have lost their medical and need to be thrown back into the dunnie!
Just heard from my neighbor who is a doctor at the EKClinic and apparently they are now being pushed not to sign crews sick as it is effecting the rosters and operation! Down the slope we go!!
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From: On the ground
I see nothing has changed since I left a couple years back. The only helpful thing I got from these morons was the TR which was the key to join the present company - one (still) without a fear and reporting culture.
This is where end- capitalism, liberalism and power awareness lead to. Should have read Animal Farm earlier!
This is where end- capitalism, liberalism and power awareness lead to. Should have read Animal Farm earlier!
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From: England
Ozzie, thanks for the warning. Always good to get both sides of the story though, so I thought I'd give it a bash. I am, however, very disillusioned with, not only the airline industry, but aviation in general. Time to retire?
Anyway, all the best with your endeavours.
Anyway, all the best with your endeavours.
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From: Fredericton
Years ago, KAL expat pilots were asked to come out with money saving ideas; the same ideas brought by the EK guys were discussed amongst ourselves BUT WE NEVER THOUGHT TO GIVE KAL MANAGEMENT ANY IDEAS THAT ARE DETRIMENTAL TO PILOTS. Any ideas for cost savings which ended up screwing pilots' quality of life ( commuting contracts are pretty demanding on pilots' private life ) were a NO NO...........alas then came the frogg from the sandpit, and we were screwed big time!
. Never give KAL management any ideas on how to screw pilots' quality time away from flying!Makes me wonder why EK guys running away from that system wants to introduce their
practices in kimchiland
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From: India
It needed just one a***hole to brown nose and poison the minds of the management on ways to screw pilots. You posted misleading info on numbers of ex-EK who ventured to Korea, so now you want to go whooopie for us to believe in your twisted logic? Talk about not taking kindly to " loss of face " ala kimchi style! I totally agree with Calvin and Chuck.
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From: Mars
A few people have left EK and think it was a great decision for family, kids etc.
A few did the above and now want to return as circumstances have changed.
A few got fired.
I wonder who would be so vitriolic on this site.
Someone quoting left QF to come to EK was worst mistake ever, has he read a newspaper recently?
2700 pilots and 20 whingers on here, must be doing pretty well
A few did the above and now want to return as circumstances have changed.
A few got fired.
I wonder who would be so vitriolic on this site.
Someone quoting left QF to come to EK was worst mistake ever, has he read a newspaper recently?
2700 pilots and 20 whingers on here, must be doing pretty well
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From: Not here any more.
EY pilots don't post anymore because E tihad is the best airline in the world, not because a well known forum was subpoenaed by their lawyers into revealing the names of the pilots who posted negative comments.
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From: uk
Great shame if those comments are true.
In reality how they prove who each person is on an anonymous forum is another matter.
For that reason I suspect these rumours are only to be believed by those who enjoy being drawn in by dramatic, overhyped stories. Those personalities who most probably enjoy a good browse of the Daily Mail........
In reality how they prove who each person is on an anonymous forum is another matter.
For that reason I suspect these rumours are only to be believed by those who enjoy being drawn in by dramatic, overhyped stories. Those personalities who most probably enjoy a good browse of the Daily Mail........
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well known forum was subpoenaed by their lawyers into revealing the names of the pilots who posted negative comments.
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From: Glass Mountains
Years ago, KAL expat pilots were asked to come out with money saving ideas; the same ideas brought by the EK guys were discussed amongst ourselves BUT WE NEVER THOUGHT TO GIVE KAL MANAGEMENT ANY IDEAS THAT ARE DETRIMENTAL TO PILOTS. Any ideas for cost savings which ended up screwing pilots' quality of life ( commuting contracts are pretty demanding on pilots' private life ) were a NO NO..........
...alas then came the frogg from the sandpit, and we were screwed big time
Bad rubbish from EK, now sewer water from Varig if the new AVP do take up his offer?
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From: Isle of Wight
please send admiral nelson to his waterloo! insufferable piece of work, flying with him across the andes is a real torture as he seeks to impress you with his knowledge of volcanoes, volcanic ash, mountains and american airlines cali accident....with jepessen enroute charts and his own charts strewn all over. is he still bribing the chief pilots with his brazillian coffee? how's the other samba bloke who speaks to the korean pilots in his impeccable korean eventhough all the others around them can only speak and understand english?
EK has some koreans and there are about a dozen in EY......they all seem very happy in the sandpit from what I heard.
EK has some koreans and there are about a dozen in EY......they all seem very happy in the sandpit from what I heard.
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From: Dublin
That's a very defeatist attitude Ozzie380. But as I have never been there and thinking of going, I take your comments on board. But your comments are the shortest quibs I have read about any other airline so in my case I think Minority rules and I will apply anyway. We will always have something to moan about and life is never how you expect it to be. We just have to make the best of our poor lives, that is compared to all the people out of work or actively seeking work. That ole phrase, "aren't you lucky to have a job", springs to mind(I hate that phrase too). I notice you never mentioned about how little they will be paying you for all these inconveniences. The fact is that wherever you work, you will have something to gripe about, but I think EK suitably compensate you for that. If we wanted all the things you are looking for we wouldn't be pilots. Due respect to your comments though. I appreciate them and will take them on board. Thanks for taking the time to write down the misgivings that I think are in every airline.
