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SXS Commute
I am flying with some Co-Pilots who where in AYT with SXS and they had difficulties to get sufficient time off in between to go home frequently.
A late arrival followed by: OFF, early STBY, flight duty...... Then you have a day in between to get two hours a day. They are happy to keep you at base, just in case. When they talked with the Scheduler they had all kind of excuses not to get sufficient consecutive days off for commuting.
But the summer season is coming and supply and demand can assist in getting this in the contract, you do not ask, you do not get it?
A late arrival followed by: OFF, early STBY, flight duty...... Then you have a day in between to get two hours a day. They are happy to keep you at base, just in case. When they talked with the Scheduler they had all kind of excuses not to get sufficient consecutive days off for commuting.
But the summer season is coming and supply and demand can assist in getting this in the contract, you do not ask, you do not get it?
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Commuting abroad not available 3 days off with rest day before and late start afterwards once a month. You are home everyday if you can move with the family it's a great job.
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Sunexpress job
I would like to know how to best apply for a job in SXS.
I have 2400 hours on the 737 and is living in Antalya.
Unfortunently I don't have a turkish passport or money enough to get myself a 737 rating (I already have a valid one…)
Would they even consider me?
Any relevant comments is welcome
DAF
I have 2400 hours on the 737 and is living in Antalya.
Unfortunently I don't have a turkish passport or money enough to get myself a 737 rating (I already have a valid one…)
Would they even consider me?
Any relevant comments is welcome
DAF
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Yes that seems to be true, they're opening new bases in Turkey and all the people I went to the assessments with were turkish citizens. I'm still waiting for a date to start my type rating.
Does anyone have any experiences with regards to taking a loan for a TR with a turkish bank?
Does anyone have any experiences with regards to taking a loan for a TR with a turkish bank?
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Closing Base
The German part of Sunexpress, SXD, is closing its base at Berlin. The new Airport has the price tag flying high. Not enough opportunity left for yield.
Transfering the risk to companies and stuff the earning into the pockets of the Airports to fill the gap in the Budget? I would hope more companies would have the balls and stop to go there to show that politicians drifted off so far from what the Citizens really want. Lobbyist´s are trying to force people into a direction where the convinience and the common sense get´s totaly lost.
SXS and SXD are still growing. Keep applying, just be flexible where to go.
Transfering the risk to companies and stuff the earning into the pockets of the Airports to fill the gap in the Budget? I would hope more companies would have the balls and stop to go there to show that politicians drifted off so far from what the Citizens really want. Lobbyist´s are trying to force people into a direction where the convinience and the common sense get´s totaly lost.
SXS and SXD are still growing. Keep applying, just be flexible where to go.
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aozc -
What can we expect on the Interview, the sim, and the tests for the FO position if you have 250h?
Can you make it clear, what to know, is it an advantage to know turkish and so on?
Thank you
What can we expect on the Interview, the sim, and the tests for the FO position if you have 250h?
Can you make it clear, what to know, is it an advantage to know turkish and so on?
Thank you
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My turkish isn't that great but I'm a citizen and I've completed my military service so it was fine anyways.
All experienced F/Os that I know has not gotten any replies after filling the form. It seems like they only want inexperienced F/Os unless you come from the military.
First you do the Mollymawk test and the TOEIC or TOEFL iBT english test that you pay for yourself. If you pass it they will call you for a sim assessment. If you pass the sim you have the interview. Everything is quite straight forward.
All experienced F/Os that I know has not gotten any replies after filling the form. It seems like they only want inexperienced F/Os unless you come from the military.
First you do the Mollymawk test and the TOEIC or TOEFL iBT english test that you pay for yourself. If you pass it they will call you for a sim assessment. If you pass the sim you have the interview. Everything is quite straight forward.
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some info
Hi Guys … Just a few points here (very quickly)!
We are not in Europe here.
It means different FDT: 1000h/Year and up to 14H duty/Day (and pilots are really doing this)
Minimum off days per month: 7 (2 X 2 days in a row plus 3 single days) … So forget about the commuting unless it is specified in your contract! They are only offering a commuting contract if you are willing to be based where not even the Turkish pilots wanna go!
There is this in the contract: “The Parties hereby agree andaccept that in the event the Contract is terminated by either Party on thegrounds of unjust cause, the said Party shall pay the other Party a penalty feeto the amount equal to the aggregate of the wage of the Employee for thenon-performed duration of the Contract.” … So be careful what you are signing!
The flat rate is 85h. The hours in excess of this are paid at60% … Scandalous! This is why we flying 110h/Month or 300h/3 months!
During the summer, your roster is constantly changing!
Your monthly roster is published very late (something like the 29th)
Your annual leave is only confirmed the month before (how can you book holidays in those conditions?)!
International school cost about 900€/Month per child and the company doesn’t pay a penny for this.
Language issues with the airport handling staff … Safety issues during push back (not SXS staff).
Now the good points:
Living in Turkey is not bad: good weather, fresh food and friendly people. As I said, the only issue is the language (and maybe the way they are driving J).
A shuttle is prearranged to pick you up at home for everyduty (great especially as an expat).
The company is quite organized and the staff is very friendly. The management is quite human and the door is always open to discuss aboutyour problem (I did not say they will solve it J).
They have a lot of respect for the captain: You will neverhave to justify yourself about fuel, diversion, …
Just my 2 cents … Hope it helps!
We are not in Europe here.
It means different FDT: 1000h/Year and up to 14H duty/Day (and pilots are really doing this)
Minimum off days per month: 7 (2 X 2 days in a row plus 3 single days) … So forget about the commuting unless it is specified in your contract! They are only offering a commuting contract if you are willing to be based where not even the Turkish pilots wanna go!
There is this in the contract: “The Parties hereby agree andaccept that in the event the Contract is terminated by either Party on thegrounds of unjust cause, the said Party shall pay the other Party a penalty feeto the amount equal to the aggregate of the wage of the Employee for thenon-performed duration of the Contract.” … So be careful what you are signing!
The flat rate is 85h. The hours in excess of this are paid at60% … Scandalous! This is why we flying 110h/Month or 300h/3 months!
During the summer, your roster is constantly changing!
Your monthly roster is published very late (something like the 29th)
Your annual leave is only confirmed the month before (how can you book holidays in those conditions?)!
International school cost about 900€/Month per child and the company doesn’t pay a penny for this.
Language issues with the airport handling staff … Safety issues during push back (not SXS staff).
Now the good points:
Living in Turkey is not bad: good weather, fresh food and friendly people. As I said, the only issue is the language (and maybe the way they are driving J).
A shuttle is prearranged to pick you up at home for everyduty (great especially as an expat).
The company is quite organized and the staff is very friendly. The management is quite human and the door is always open to discuss aboutyour problem (I did not say they will solve it J).
They have a lot of respect for the captain: You will neverhave to justify yourself about fuel, diversion, …
Just my 2 cents … Hope it helps!
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i have interview with SunExpress where new bases are offered:Trabzon,Adana,Gaziantep,Elazig and Diyarbakir.Which of them is acceptable for western familiy with 4 years child ? And can you choose it or they just offer "take it or leave it".
How does Commuting roster like?
Thank you very much guys for your answers
How does Commuting roster like?
Thank you very much guys for your answers
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Not recruiting experienced FOs and commuting contracts are not available at the bases AYT/ADB/SAW. The " new bases" are mainly to support growth associated with the THY operations.
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AOZC, The " new bases" may or may not be a long term situation as the market in Turkey is changing all the time, who can say, but if they close a base they will simply move the crews to other bases... of course if you moved back to ADB/SAW/AYT the contract would be a non commute. Typically 2 double offs and then 3 single days, although you can request a Triple off once a month... problem is that it is usually early starts after days off..
