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Any info on Brazil??
Fellow fliers, I was curious to know if anyone has any information about airline flying in Brazil? Tam, Gol, Azul...? I have dual citizenship and speak the language (Portuguese) fluently. The only problem I face is that I am very low time (1000 TT 25 Multi). I was told by a friend who is an FO at jetblue that the airlines in Brazil were hiring like crazy but I cant seem to find anything on the internet to substantiate that statement. Any takers?
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I remember seeing a few brazilian adds somewhere. They did require citizenship and language, which you had. I am not sure how it goes with Brazilian licenses... I guess you will have to convert that and sometimes depending on the country, that could be a pain in the neck.
Try searching online on sites like climbto350 and others and hopefully you will find what they are looking for.
Good luck!
Try searching online on sites like climbto350 and others and hopefully you will find what they are looking for.
Good luck!
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Thanks, I will look into that site and see if anything comes up. Im not sure about the conversion either but right now Im interested to see if they are even hiring and if so, what minimums are they requiring.
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Language, Nationality and Brazilian License, as far as i know are required to fly in Brazil.
I've heard of a Portuguese A310 operator, who had to register a new company to be allowed to fly charters in Brasil with Brazilian Pilots, because Portuguese Licensed Pilots are not allowed to fly the Portuguese A310 in Brasil.
By the way, they are plenty of Brazilian Pilots flying in Portugal since the 60's!
I've heard of a Portuguese A310 operator, who had to register a new company to be allowed to fly charters in Brasil with Brazilian Pilots, because Portuguese Licensed Pilots are not allowed to fly the Portuguese A310 in Brasil.
By the way, they are plenty of Brazilian Pilots flying in Portugal since the 60's!
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With you current experience you can easily find a job in any airline, TAM and GOL arent hiring at this moment because they hired so many pilots recently that they are having troubles to train everybody, but as soon things start to improve and people finish their training they will start to hire again, probably in 2 or 3 months. I have been hired recently in one of the brazilian airlines and i olny have 550 TT.
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Hey Varig, who did you get hired from? I currently am looking into starting the process. Would you recommend waithing a few months when the start hiring or should I begin the process as of now? Another thing, did you convert your license in Brasil? or did you do your training there? I need to get info on how to do the conversion and how long it would take. Thanks for the info, I look foward to starting this process soon.
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Hello again. Im not sure if you are currently working or not but I suggest you to come to Brazil to do some research any time, and specially to convert your license because the Brazilian aviation authority is very burocratic and it might take longer than you expect to finish all the conversin proccess. I did my pilot training in Brazil so no conversion needed for me.
The news I know for this moment is that GOL may not hire more pilots this year because of the merge with Webjet, if they do so, its probably gonna be just one class by the end of the year. For 2012 their initial plan was to make 5 classes of new pilots during all year, but now because of Webjet they plan to have only 2. (Of course all this can change)
TAM airlines are always hiring but in small groups of pilots, but i dont have any concrete information about them now.
Azul airlines do pilot's interviews every week and is probably one of the easiest choices, they oftern hire pilots fresh from CPL courses with only 150tt, but they ask you to have ICAO4, Jet trainer, University degree and their salary is one of the lowest in Brazil, They hire both for the E-JET´s and ATRs
Another airline hiring pilots is TRIP, they fly ATRs and E-JETs as well
The last option at the moment is AVIANCA Brasil (this is the one im in) They are still small in the Brazilian market but growing well, i dont think they are going to hire any more pilots for the F100 this year, but i believe they will need more to fly the Airbuses
All these airlines asks an average of 500TT minimum, except for TAM and GOL who asks for 1000TT
Just want to point again that no expats are allowed in Brazil, sorry guys
The news I know for this moment is that GOL may not hire more pilots this year because of the merge with Webjet, if they do so, its probably gonna be just one class by the end of the year. For 2012 their initial plan was to make 5 classes of new pilots during all year, but now because of Webjet they plan to have only 2. (Of course all this can change)
TAM airlines are always hiring but in small groups of pilots, but i dont have any concrete information about them now.
Azul airlines do pilot's interviews every week and is probably one of the easiest choices, they oftern hire pilots fresh from CPL courses with only 150tt, but they ask you to have ICAO4, Jet trainer, University degree and their salary is one of the lowest in Brazil, They hire both for the E-JET´s and ATRs
Another airline hiring pilots is TRIP, they fly ATRs and E-JETs as well
The last option at the moment is AVIANCA Brasil (this is the one im in) They are still small in the Brazilian market but growing well, i dont think they are going to hire any more pilots for the F100 this year, but i believe they will need more to fly the Airbuses
All these airlines asks an average of 500TT minimum, except for TAM and GOL who asks for 1000TT
Just want to point again that no expats are allowed in Brazil, sorry guys
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I need to get info on how to do the conversion and how long it would take
If you finished 2nd grade outside Brazil, make sure you have it validated by a Brazilian consulate before you move back. The process is a bit complicated but it can be done with some patience, just go to ANAC in Sao Paulo and you will get all the info needed.
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Thanks for the info! Im guessing that I will have to be in Brasil to get this ball rolling. I currently Live in Miami, Fl. and I have every intention to move to Brasil if I can get hired. Do you know if I have to do a conversion to get an interview? If so, what is the approx. cost? I currently work as a mission pilot for the sheriff's office flying airplanes and helicopters. I love the job but have an incredible desire to work for the airlines in my home country of Brasil. My first choice would be TAM but I will not limit my options. I have mostly fixed wing time but do you know if these companies give credit for chopper time? (Im flying Astar 350s) I really appreciate all your responses! Its tough to get answers when your so far away and out of touch with the local practices.
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What type of airplane are you currently flying? I ask that because a friend of mine was a CPI in U.S.A with +-1500TT, He was invited for an interview at TAM but in the moment the recruiter saw on his logbook that all his hours was done in U.S, even with the conversion they sent him back home because they didnt accept hours outside Brazil as proof of logged hours. But Im sure that if at least most of your hours was done at a TR airplane they will accept it.
Im sure You will need to have your license already converted for an interview because due to the need of pilots, most of time, things happens really fast (you may start employment 1 or 2 weeks after the interview) and because of the burocracy with ANAC they know You wont be ready on time if they approve You.
About procedures and prices for the conversion I unfortunately cant help You because I dont have a clue how to do it. Maybe Soave Pilot knows something useful.
About hours logged in helicopters, Im not sure but I dont believe they will accept it to fill the minimum required hours, but if you fill the minimums at fixed aircraft only, im sure they will consider your heli hours as extra experience
Im sure You will need to have your license already converted for an interview because due to the need of pilots, most of time, things happens really fast (you may start employment 1 or 2 weeks after the interview) and because of the burocracy with ANAC they know You wont be ready on time if they approve You.
About procedures and prices for the conversion I unfortunately cant help You because I dont have a clue how to do it. Maybe Soave Pilot knows something useful.
About hours logged in helicopters, Im not sure but I dont believe they will accept it to fill the minimum required hours, but if you fill the minimums at fixed aircraft only, im sure they will consider your heli hours as extra experience
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If by TR you mean type rating, no. I dont have time in type. all my time are in single and multi pistons. I have a few hundrend in turbine helicopters as well. How can I get my US hours recognized? It seems rediculous that they would just assume that this time is fictional and throw it out. In avianca, do you know any guys that came with FAA time and converted their license? The more I look into it, Avianca is looking like a very good company to work for. How are you liking it so far? Do you personally think I have a shot and should I start this conversion process? I was also looking into webjet, any info on them? I apologize for all the questions but I feel sort of lost in this process. Its something that I really want and it seems to get further and further away each step I take. I really appreciate all your responses, it has been very helpful.
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Yeah, i was meaning "type rating". I will ask this guy who had his hours refused by TAM to check what was exactly the reason and I will let you know in the following days.
About Avianca, You wont have problem there, they will accept it because half of my TT was logged outside Brazil, and this guy I mentioned who had problems at TAM went to the same assesment than I and they didnt complained about his license or hours. (but he failed)
Im not the best man to tell you exactly how things are at Avianca cause Im on training yet, but a poll was made some time ago on the biggest aviation forum in Brazil asking what was the best airline to work for and Avianca won. What people usually say is that the environment is one of the best to work for, very friendly group of pilots and cabin crew, and a good salary. In the future Avianca Brasil will merge with the Colombian arm and they have plans to start international routes soon, next year they will receive A330 and 787 are expected to arrive by 2014/2015, and the best thing in my opinion is that you may be promoted to captain sooner than others airlines here (+- 4 years). Tam has the best salary and widebodies but you can expect around 10 years flying in the right seat and you work like a slave with very few days off so I think Avianca is the best choice for me right now.
Webjet. Forget it, Gol just bought this airline and their plan is to cease with the brand and make everything as one airline
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About Avianca, You wont have problem there, they will accept it because half of my TT was logged outside Brazil, and this guy I mentioned who had problems at TAM went to the same assesment than I and they didnt complained about his license or hours. (but he failed)
Im not the best man to tell you exactly how things are at Avianca cause Im on training yet, but a poll was made some time ago on the biggest aviation forum in Brazil asking what was the best airline to work for and Avianca won. What people usually say is that the environment is one of the best to work for, very friendly group of pilots and cabin crew, and a good salary. In the future Avianca Brasil will merge with the Colombian arm and they have plans to start international routes soon, next year they will receive A330 and 787 are expected to arrive by 2014/2015, and the best thing in my opinion is that you may be promoted to captain sooner than others airlines here (+- 4 years). Tam has the best salary and widebodies but you can expect around 10 years flying in the right seat and you work like a slave with very few days off so I think Avianca is the best choice for me right now.
Webjet. Forget it, Gol just bought this airline and their plan is to cease with the brand and make everything as one airline
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Thank you! Thats is some very useful information. I am definitely intersted in pursuing Avianca and I will see where the TAM thing goes. I guess my first focus will be to get my license coverted and then just start applying. Keep me posted ! P.S. just curios, what are the benefits at the company? (medical, retirement, travel etc.)
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To work here You need to be brazilian or its citizenship and speak portuguese fluently. To have the citizenship I heard You need to live in Brazil for at least 5 years or be married to a Brazilian for a certain amount of time I do not know now
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I think I saw somewhere that your flying helicopters? If so, how is that market in Brasil?? Im flying AS350B2s for the Sheriff's Office and flying in Brasil is in my future. What do you think about the tansition?
I think I saw somewhere that your flying helicopters? If so, how is that market in Brasil?? Im flying AS350B2s for the Sheriff's Office and flying in Brasil is in my future. What do you think about the tansition?
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The aviation boom in Brazil is so big that you wont have problem to find a job be it a fixed wing or a helicopter. The congress will vote in the future some modification on the "CBA" (the aviation regulations) and one of the proposals is to allow expats in Brazil. This modification in being suggested specially because of the lack of helicopter pilots because of the recently discovered Oil Wells in the ocean they will need many off-shore helicopters.
