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No, the other way around in fact.
As there are between a Dash and a 'jet' but hey, lets not use the same yardstick!
What difference does that make? You can still, I hope, control an aircraft with reference to a 'real' or a glass AH can't you?!
Boring!
None, none at all, just killing time having a robust discussion!
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It's a fantastic thread creep...
However, really nothing here is relevant to the original discussion - and it did turn into a discussion about the merits of having something that will go for longer, higher and faster than something we can get up 4 times a day (something I believe the 195 guys don't know too much about!)
In order to bring it back on topic though...
There must be quite significant holding pools in the company still at the moment? I ran into a few new guys a couple of days ago and they said that there were 12 new starters on their course alone... So where is everybody going??? I didn't think that there were that many leavers so far??
However, really nothing here is relevant to the original discussion - and it did turn into a discussion about the merits of having something that will go for longer, higher and faster than something we can get up 4 times a day (something I believe the 195 guys don't know too much about!)
In order to bring it back on topic though...
There must be quite significant holding pools in the company still at the moment? I ran into a few new guys a couple of days ago and they said that there were 12 new starters on their course alone... So where is everybody going??? I didn't think that there were that many leavers so far??
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There aren't that many leaving mate, it's to fill holes in the far reaching places that nobody wants to go, i.e. IOM - BHD - GCI - JER etc etc. A couple have gone to EDI, and a few are off round the network to cover retirements and the commands that have been granted this year (about 13 so I was told)
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Yeah, I wasn't too sure - it just seemed that suddenly over the course of the last 6 months, everybody pretty much got the bases they wanted. I know I did and I can name at least 10 more beneath me on seniority who are coming here too from this bidding alone... and I'm quite junior too!
However, whichever way you look at it, I don't think that we will be recruiting too much for the next year. Those hold pools have had a healthy couple of years to swell up and I would be surprised if those don't meet the crew requirement for this year.
We shall see though - I might be totally up the wrong tree
However, whichever way you look at it, I don't think that we will be recruiting too much for the next year. Those hold pools have had a healthy couple of years to swell up and I would be surprised if those don't meet the crew requirement for this year.
We shall see though - I might be totally up the wrong tree
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and it did turn into a discussion about the merits of having something that will go for longer, higher and faster
than something we can get up 4 times a day
something I believe the 195 guys don't know too much about!)
Do you think that bitter delusional turbo prop pilots are what potential recruits want to end up flying with?
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I don't give a rats arse about the 195 vs the Q400 debate. I cannot give a flaming toss into the bowels of hell. I've got many bigger and larger things to worry about in my life than what you think of the Q400 pilots/ what the Q400 pilots think about the 195 pilots.
Is it really indicative of the morale of this company that every thread that we have on here turns into some great argument?
For christs sake - this is a thread about recruitment for the airline.
Now... can this please get back on topic? Or failing that... locked?
Thank you
Is it really indicative of the morale of this company that every thread that we have on here turns into some great argument?
For christs sake - this is a thread about recruitment for the airline.
Now... can this please get back on topic? Or failing that... locked?
Thank you
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So don't perpetuate it then. Easy.
By the way this is a discussion, we are allowed to discuss and present our points of view and opinions. We don't need to get heated dear boy. A discussion will run it's course and may produce fresh discussion on a different subject matter. You can't tell anyone what they may or may not discuss.
By the way this is a discussion, we are allowed to discuss and present our points of view and opinions. We don't need to get heated dear boy. A discussion will run it's course and may produce fresh discussion on a different subject matter. You can't tell anyone what they may or may not discuss.
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Back to the original thread?
Gosh, I cant believe my original thread was about recruitment at FlyBE
Well just to get us back on topic, I phoned HR at Exeter again yesterday to ask some more questions, I told them about my hours on the dash (just shy of 3000) and told them that I'd like an Exeter base if possible, she said that Exeter is fine so long as I'm willing to wait in the pool for a vacancy. She said I'd be starting on just shy of £30K and that direct entry command is unlikely. In fact people who already have a command and that are in or going to be in the holding pool will be asked to join as an F/O. She also said that I should check the website from now until Christmas as they're looking at opening pilot vacancies soon.
I forgot to ask when they actually start paying you i.e join date or FLC.
And as to those of you who keep comparing the dash to cars/jets and arguing about it e.t.c. e.t.c..... well, how much time have you got on your hands? perhaps it's time to find another hobby. I fly the dash 300 and it's got some of the 400 oddities (so has the 100 and 200). Well it's a plane deal with it, cant see the sense in getting worked up about it.
Well just to get us back on topic, I phoned HR at Exeter again yesterday to ask some more questions, I told them about my hours on the dash (just shy of 3000) and told them that I'd like an Exeter base if possible, she said that Exeter is fine so long as I'm willing to wait in the pool for a vacancy. She said I'd be starting on just shy of £30K and that direct entry command is unlikely. In fact people who already have a command and that are in or going to be in the holding pool will be asked to join as an F/O. She also said that I should check the website from now until Christmas as they're looking at opening pilot vacancies soon.
I forgot to ask when they actually start paying you i.e join date or FLC.
And as to those of you who keep comparing the dash to cars/jets and arguing about it e.t.c. e.t.c..... well, how much time have you got on your hands? perhaps it's time to find another hobby. I fly the dash 300 and it's got some of the 400 oddities (so has the 100 and 200). Well it's a plane deal with it, cant see the sense in getting worked up about it.
Dancing with the devil, going with the flow... it's all a game to me.
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Hear hear Airpasty.
Their online application allows updating (seems I hadn't updated my details for some time!). Does anyone know whether this is something that is likely to be observed at HR HQ, or does one ideally need to follow up these changes directly? Obviously, one wouldn'yt wish to cause a nuisance but if these old applications fester in the recesses of their databanks I would like to know!
Cheers,
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Their online application allows updating (seems I hadn't updated my details for some time!). Does anyone know whether this is something that is likely to be observed at HR HQ, or does one ideally need to follow up these changes directly? Obviously, one wouldn'yt wish to cause a nuisance but if these old applications fester in the recesses of their databanks I would like to know!
Cheers,
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She said I'd be starting on just shy of £30K
Sorry about your thread, I just think it's important to publish accurate information.
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I forgot to ask when they actually start paying you i.e join date or FLC.
I doubt we'll see the need for DE commands at flybe for a very long time. About two thirds of the dash FO's and nearly all of the Jet FO's have the required hours for (q400) command. Joining flybe now and you'll be joining at the bottom of this very long queue for upgrade.
However, the company are currently ramping up training for command upgrades. The problem is that this training stops short of sending the FO's off to the SIM for LHS checks and training. There are about 20'ish guys in this position at the moment. The reasoning is that if there is a max exodus of skippers (like the birmingham 28), then these guys are 3-4 weeks away from being released to the line as Captains. Of course these psuedo-skippers are still on FO pay.
Flybe's recruitment model works simply as Captains leave - replace with expensive (year 4-5) FO - replace expensive FO with cheap cadet FO. Which, works out cheaper as you have replaced one expensive captain with a cheap year 1 captain, and also replaced an expensive FO with a year 0 FO.
This will continue until some link in the chain is broken.
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She said I'd be starting on just shy of £30K
So just a phone call to HR and they (she) offer you a job and the base you want as well, no interview or sim check?????? You must be related to uncle Jim
That's not how things worked when I was at Flybe!
That's not how things worked when I was at Flybe!
they`ll tell you all you want to hear.
They promised me the earth, just what i wanted to hear and several years later still waiting for any of it to come true, - static market granted!!
if you want a particular base, command or seat on a 195 then be prepared for a long wait, and as someone else said, join the back of a very long que with everyone else already there!!
All good flying in the mean time, a fun and interesting place to be, but management have a habit of leaving all in the dark and waiting while they move in mysterious ways!!
and dont count on rushing onto a 175 either!!!
They promised me the earth, just what i wanted to hear and several years later still waiting for any of it to come true, - static market granted!!
if you want a particular base, command or seat on a 195 then be prepared for a long wait, and as someone else said, join the back of a very long que with everyone else already there!!
All good flying in the mean time, a fun and interesting place to be, but management have a habit of leaving all in the dark and waiting while they move in mysterious ways!!
and dont count on rushing onto a 175 either!!!
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Ooooo, I can see a lot of applications mysteriously being 'lost' in the system if our Flight Ops Recruitment Manager is referred to as working in HR once more. Bad wannabees...............bad wannabees! 
And we can have as many 'experienced' FOs as you like ready for upgrade, but if the TRI/TRE skips leave the company and none of the genuine experienced skips want the job (a bit like '04/'05) then you will definitely be looking at DEC provided the have the requisite qualifications and experience. I believe dear old Liz may have a small surplus of just such people in the very near future.
Hmmmm......wonder what might happen here.......
And we can have as many 'experienced' FOs as you like ready for upgrade, but if the TRI/TRE skips leave the company and none of the genuine experienced skips want the job (a bit like '04/'05) then you will definitely be looking at DEC provided the have the requisite qualifications and experience. I believe dear old Liz may have a small surplus of just such people in the very near future.
Hmmmm......wonder what might happen here.......