It's a fantastic thread creep...
However, really nothing here is relevant to the original discussion - and it did turn into a discussion about the merits of having something that will go for longer, higher and faster than something we can get up 4 times a day (something I believe the 195 guys don't know too much about!)
In order to bring it back on topic though...
There must be quite significant holding pools in the company still at the moment? I ran into a few new guys a couple of days ago and they said that there were 12 new starters on their course alone... So where is everybody going??? I didn't think that there were that many leavers so far??