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CC aka. Daddy 
Thanks for the flattery, but I doubt your old enough to be my Dad. You'd be above the max retirement age
First line of my post on page one. That up until last week they were the pay scales we were using. The pay has not gone up because we fly newer jets. We are the poor son of BA.
Flight pay is same for both seats. There are NO additional payments per Diem!
RJ
p.s. I have been trying to update the scales on PPJN since our huge 2% pay rise. Alas, it does seem to have appeared yet.
Thanks for the flattery, but I doubt your old enough to be my Dad. You'd be above the max retirement age
First line of my post on page one. That up until last week they were the pay scales we were using. The pay has not gone up because we fly newer jets. We are the poor son of BA.
Flight pay is same for both seats. There are NO additional payments per Diem!
RJ
p.s. I have been trying to update the scales on PPJN since our huge 2% pay rise. Alas, it does seem to have appeared yet.
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Hi
I don't understand the application idea. Do you have to download the application form (i don't see any) from their website or do you have to create one on your own with the guidelines the describe?
Thx
I don't understand the application idea. Do you have to download the application form (i don't see any) from their website or do you have to create one on your own with the guidelines the describe?
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Lord Brown
I take your point, old bean, about Flybe being Europes' 'numma wun' when it comes to regional beasting of pilots. We continue to work hard to overtake you and in time, we probably wont.
Unlike yourself- plainly, a gentleman of independent means- I rely on my wages to ensure survival and for this I am prepared to do (almost) anything.....except join your mob!
I remain, as always, your obedient servant......
Although, not quite as literally as when we were both on the Barbie.....
I take your point, old bean, about Flybe being Europes' 'numma wun' when it comes to regional beasting of pilots. We continue to work hard to overtake you and in time, we probably wont.
Unlike yourself- plainly, a gentleman of independent means- I rely on my wages to ensure survival and for this I am prepared to do (almost) anything.....except join your mob!
I remain, as always, your obedient servant......
Although, not quite as literally as when we were both on the Barbie.
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In regards to the pay question for direct entry F/O the reason everyone is being a bit vague is that we do not have an exact figure published available. A Lot of our F/O`s were cadets who were on a different scale and there have been alot of changes with pay freezes to prevent redundancy etc, RJ100 is in the right ball park with the 2% year on the last pay scales.
Bond will be a bond not a bank loan. It will be detailed with costs and not a random figure plucked out the air. Not sure of duration but guessing about 3 years. You don`t leave you don`t pay!
*Just read the application and it states a 2 year bond
Positions will be LCY so stby call out is 90 Mins.
I hope roster patterns, number of stby`s and days off will improve, That`s why we are getting more crew! (maybe i`m dreaming)
Edi crews get more duty pay ATM as they spend all day flying around as passengers
in regards to any problems with the application form, national insurance number, recent hours etc i would suggest contacting the company to ask.
IT issues would not be a surprise, If your serious its worth at least an email to clarify your application if you think you have a problem.
Bond will be a bond not a bank loan. It will be detailed with costs and not a random figure plucked out the air. Not sure of duration but guessing about 3 years. You don`t leave you don`t pay!
*Just read the application and it states a 2 year bond
Positions will be LCY so stby call out is 90 Mins.
I hope roster patterns, number of stby`s and days off will improve, That`s why we are getting more crew! (maybe i`m dreaming)
Edi crews get more duty pay ATM as they spend all day flying around as passengers
in regards to any problems with the application form, national insurance number, recent hours etc i would suggest contacting the company to ask.
IT issues would not be a surprise, If your serious its worth at least an email to clarify your application if you think you have a problem.
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I applied two days ago, and appart the mail that I received confirming the correct reception of the application I haven't had any other answer.
Has anybody received an email or call after submit the application?
Any idea about the recruitment process and how many crews are they looking for?
rgds.
Has anybody received an email or call after submit the application?
Any idea about the recruitment process and how many crews are they looking for?
rgds.
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selling out to the lowest bidder ....
Was there ... don't do it, there are better things to do with your life. Get a plan, avoid lo-co, try teaching people how to do something you love ... just don't sign up to this ritualised nonsense ... oh how high do I jump to pass YOUR test ? .. yep someone will always be willing... but do you really want to be that someone ? ... let them take it .. meanwhile do something constructive with your life.
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Hi Guys,
I don't normally post on here but I feel I should to stop people throwing away jobs (which you may not like, but you'll think it was the best job ever if you left to join us).
The only way this job is worth applying for, is if you were unfortunate made redundant over the last year or so. The pay is disgraceful for the job we do! We are not a regional airline, more a European short haul company, yet our powers that be (Penny Pinchers) negotiated our pay based on that and then take 5% off!!! On top of that you operate in and out of a Cat C airfield every sector on a roster based on min rest at airport hotels and a piece of lettuce (Crew Food).
You get rostered 5 day trips so that your away from base and become the company's bi
ch for those 5 days, where they can do whatever they like to you!!
Positives: -
1) Friendly Crew
2) Good Rostering Manager, if you need particular days off
3) Nice Aircraft to fly and use to apply elsewhere.
4) LCY fun some days!
P.S. It could be a great company commercially and for employees if it was planned for the future and not for tomorrow! More money/ crew welfare - happier staff and less turn over! More staff, less sickness and less chance of getting titan in at a lot more cost than 2 salaries! I could go on but you get the point!!
I don't normally post on here but I feel I should to stop people throwing away jobs (which you may not like, but you'll think it was the best job ever if you left to join us).
The only way this job is worth applying for, is if you were unfortunate made redundant over the last year or so. The pay is disgraceful for the job we do! We are not a regional airline, more a European short haul company, yet our powers that be (Penny Pinchers) negotiated our pay based on that and then take 5% off!!! On top of that you operate in and out of a Cat C airfield every sector on a roster based on min rest at airport hotels and a piece of lettuce (Crew Food).
You get rostered 5 day trips so that your away from base and become the company's bi
ch for those 5 days, where they can do whatever they like to you!! Positives: -
1) Friendly Crew
2) Good Rostering Manager, if you need particular days off
3) Nice Aircraft to fly and use to apply elsewhere.
4) LCY fun some days!
P.S. It could be a great company commercially and for employees if it was planned for the future and not for tomorrow! More money/ crew welfare - happier staff and less turn over! More staff, less sickness and less chance of getting titan in at a lot more cost than 2 salaries! I could go on but you get the point!!
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In its previous guise, Cityflyer Express, it was always poorly paid but crews were friendly and professional. Got this information from someone I knew who was an RJ skipper.
Maybe pays even worse now but at least the E-jet is so much better than the RJ!
I'll probably be applying as I fit the profile T3D STRIK3R lays out (plus LCY is only 30 mins from home).
Maybe pays even worse now but at least the E-jet is so much better than the RJ!
I'll probably be applying as I fit the profile T3D STRIK3R lays out (plus LCY is only 30 mins from home).
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Read and re-read the info from the guys who actually work here. That's the best advice.
Regarding the NI number to apply. If you don't have one, I found a someone with the same issue on a different forum. It was suggested there to use: a000000a. Your best advice would be to sent to bacityflyer.jobs (at) ba.com and explain it to them.
Basically it's a longhaul (touring up to 6 days away!) job with crap pay and 3 to 4 sectors a day with a bottle of water as crew food in between breakfast and dinner.
BUT is depends on your experience and what you are looking for. I do really enjoy it. But I also know that for many it's a different story as they have something to compare it to. T3D STRIK3R list the best parts about the job spot on. The folk, both f/d and c/c, are indeed really good fun.
As an F/O I log around 500hrs a year. I guess next year around 600 with the new summer program. Indeed a touring airline, with trips from 2 and up to 6 days away from base/home. I tend to get the bare minimum of 9 days off per month with an average of 7.3 nightstops, 38 operating sectors and 58hrs a month. (over a 3 month period incl 2 weeks leave) The E-jet bond is spread over 2 years and unless you leave, you don't pay a penny.
So far I've always been awarded the leave I requested, incl. request days off, trump days and your request for the festive period. The rostering manager is a brilliant guy. The schedueling agreement that was mentioned earlier makes it hard for the company to change rosters without asking your permission and/or awarding some cash (taxed of course!) to it. My roster is stable. Don't get many changes and the ones I do get are requests that I could have happily turned down If I had wished to do so.
If you're looking for a long time career and good pay, this is not the job for you. If you're looking to fly a modern jet out of a CAT C airfield with good staff travel perks and some nice folk to work with, it's not bad at all. I'm happy but I hear a lot of moaning and people applying elsewhere...just my 0.002 cents
Regarding the NI number to apply. If you don't have one, I found a someone with the same issue on a different forum. It was suggested there to use: a000000a. Your best advice would be to sent to bacityflyer.jobs (at) ba.com and explain it to them.
Basically it's a longhaul (touring up to 6 days away!) job with crap pay and 3 to 4 sectors a day with a bottle of water as crew food in between breakfast and dinner.
BUT is depends on your experience and what you are looking for. I do really enjoy it. But I also know that for many it's a different story as they have something to compare it to. T3D STRIK3R list the best parts about the job spot on. The folk, both f/d and c/c, are indeed really good fun.
As an F/O I log around 500hrs a year. I guess next year around 600 with the new summer program. Indeed a touring airline, with trips from 2 and up to 6 days away from base/home. I tend to get the bare minimum of 9 days off per month with an average of 7.3 nightstops, 38 operating sectors and 58hrs a month. (over a 3 month period incl 2 weeks leave) The E-jet bond is spread over 2 years and unless you leave, you don't pay a penny.
So far I've always been awarded the leave I requested, incl. request days off, trump days and your request for the festive period. The rostering manager is a brilliant guy. The schedueling agreement that was mentioned earlier makes it hard for the company to change rosters without asking your permission and/or awarding some cash (taxed of course!) to it. My roster is stable. Don't get many changes and the ones I do get are requests that I could have happily turned down If I had wished to do so.
If you're looking for a long time career and good pay, this is not the job for you. If you're looking to fly a modern jet out of a CAT C airfield with good staff travel perks and some nice folk to work with, it's not bad at all. I'm happy but I hear a lot of moaning and people applying elsewhere...just my 0.002 cents
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With a lifestyle like that and poor pay, no wonder you guys mope about at City and look at the floor - or is eye-contact with the other ranks frowned upon?
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T3D STRIK3R has pretty much hit the nail on the head!
I would not leave any company to come work for this outfit in it's current state.
It is certainly at an all time low and I have never seen it worse than it is at the moment.
To the point that a fair few who stayed on when Connect was sold off to Flybe now wished they'd left for BE!!
Even several of the people who joined us less than two years are actively looking to leave. Quote from one a few months after he joined, when we were both waiting in the LCY city crew room during one of my many forced airport standbys away from base.. "I have never worked for a company so poorly managed in my life, and I have worked for a few shady outfits!"
But if you think you are better off feel free to join, but be warned and don't complain when you realise we were ALL telling the truth!
Best of Luck!
RJ.
I would not leave any company to come work for this outfit in it's current state.
It is certainly at an all time low and I have never seen it worse than it is at the moment.
To the point that a fair few who stayed on when Connect was sold off to Flybe now wished they'd left for BE!!
Even several of the people who joined us less than two years are actively looking to leave. Quote from one a few months after he joined, when we were both waiting in the LCY city crew room during one of my many forced airport standbys away from base.. "I have never worked for a company so poorly managed in my life, and I have worked for a few shady outfits!"
But if you think you are better off feel free to join, but be warned and don't complain when you realise we were ALL telling the truth!
Best of Luck!
RJ.