BA Cityflyer Recruiting
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You didn't fall for their Airline Mentored Scheme did you. What a load of b@ll@ck*!
And as for the MPL; if that isn't an accident waiting to happen, what is?
And as for the MPL; if that isn't an accident waiting to happen, what is?
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It seems that the selection criteria was based on a "minimum hours" requirement. Not that it came up in the job description, I think 1000 hours ME time was the minimum.
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Criteria - could be anything
Guys and girls, trying to second guess the criteria is utterly pointless. I heard yesterday that they had 1500 applications for the positions which they had to whittle down to approx 60 interviewees. Virtually every pilot from the Turboprop companies operating at LCY applied, as well as many type rated pilots (from the other regional airline that pays a lot more apparently) and also RJ pilots currently operating at LCY.
Now these pilots fit one or more of the following criteria:
1. 1000's of hours multi crew
2. Type rated
3. Jet Experience
4. London City Experience
5. European Experience
6. Command potential
I'm sure you can name others.....
The fact that so many have that level of experience, probably justifies PAPI-74's theory for selection criteria
although they could just as well find 60 experienced 'Marks' or 'Living in London' or 'Integrated' etc.
Together with wanting a mix of low hour guys as well to keep a balance of experience throughout the company then these numbers reduce further.
The fact is there are so many of us TP guys out there full of hours and experience because we have been unable to move on, due to the static market, cadetships etc. There a plenty of jet pilots who believe the grass is greener or see a seat change opportunity or just better job security, and there are plenty of wannabees looking for their first job.
Add these three bodies of applicants together and you have one hell of a job sorting through them.
Finding the exact criteria is like the proverbial needle in the haystack.
Now these pilots fit one or more of the following criteria:
1. 1000's of hours multi crew
2. Type rated
3. Jet Experience
4. London City Experience
5. European Experience
6. Command potential
I'm sure you can name others.....
The fact that so many have that level of experience, probably justifies PAPI-74's theory for selection criteria
Maybe they have called everyone with the Christian name of Nigel first
Together with wanting a mix of low hour guys as well to keep a balance of experience throughout the company then these numbers reduce further.
The fact is there are so many of us TP guys out there full of hours and experience because we have been unable to move on, due to the static market, cadetships etc. There a plenty of jet pilots who believe the grass is greener or see a seat change opportunity or just better job security, and there are plenty of wannabees looking for their first job.
Add these three bodies of applicants together and you have one hell of a job sorting through them.
Finding the exact criteria is like the proverbial needle in the haystack.
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justanotherstat... Excellent summary of the problem we are all facing
No call for me either was very disappointed but understanding the size of the CV pile goes along way to ensure I don't get too disheartened. Pick yourself up, have a few beers and carry on
Second guessing airline recruitment techniques is fairly pointless but the old boy network is alive and well so maybe this plays a hand too
No call for me either was very disappointed but understanding the size of the CV pile goes along way to ensure I don't get too disheartened. Pick yourself up, have a few beers and carry on
Second guessing airline recruitment techniques is fairly pointless but the old boy network is alive and well so maybe this plays a hand too
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When first got the "generic mail" I was confident and by reading the thread I was expecting a call...
I have the requirement ... type, Hrs, LCY eXp. ecc ...
BUT NEITHER CALL NOR email yet.....
Anyway good luck to all
I have the requirement ... type, Hrs, LCY eXp. ecc ...
BUT NEITHER CALL NOR email yet.....
Anyway good luck to all
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justanothersat.................you have hit all the nails on the head except one: the unfathomable and usually illogical processes of BA HR.
There will undoubtedly be many very able, very experienced, first-class crew who will/have missed out on both Cityflyer and the Mainline selection due to the vaguaries of the above mentioned department.
Regretably, the day that touchy-feely HR 'experts' became involved in pilot selection was the day that it all became a word-processing lottery to secure a seat.
There will undoubtedly be many very able, very experienced, first-class crew who will/have missed out on both Cityflyer and the Mainline selection due to the vaguaries of the above mentioned department.
Regretably, the day that touchy-feely HR 'experts' became involved in pilot selection was the day that it all became a word-processing lottery to secure a seat.
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QED
The reign of the touchy-feely, inclusive policy driven HR 'generalists' rule the roost.
Piloting, management and command skills - unitelligible concepts to the powers that now run airlines. Oh! What did flying aircraft have to do with airlines, again? Remind me - memo to HR.
The reign of the touchy-feely, inclusive policy driven HR 'generalists' rule the roost.
Piloting, management and command skills - unitelligible concepts to the powers that now run airlines. Oh! What did flying aircraft have to do with airlines, again? Remind me - memo to HR.
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Just what I've been saying for years
I applied, and I applied and applied.... one resume had my real name and experience, the other two had false names..... and the same experience... one name was Baldwinder Chana and the other was a female named
Aaliyah Ulanda
... the real sick part is that both bogus email addys (Mr. Chana and Ms. Ulanda) both got a response for an interview.... same thing happened when I tested the waters 2 years ago at FlyBe ... just goes to show you that there are many more dynamics and quotas than you will ever be able to distinguish.... and, yes, my email (with my real name) never got even a shake!
Aaliyah Ulanda
... the real sick part is that both bogus email addys (Mr. Chana and Ms. Ulanda) both got a response for an interview.... same thing happened when I tested the waters 2 years ago at FlyBe ... just goes to show you that there are many more dynamics and quotas than you will ever be able to distinguish.... and, yes, my email (with my real name) never got even a shake!
You've nicely highlighted what I've believed for sometime now.
Take 2 or 3 people with identical experience and the deciding factor will then come down to being seen to meet some artifical 'quota' of so called 'minorities'. Seen it in action a few times too, although obviously can't pove it.
Right, well I've booked in for my sex change operation next month and as of today have offically converted to the Rastafari Movement. Just need to come up with a suitable name and I'm sorted
