Industrial Action at Flybe?
PPRuNe Knight in Shining Armour
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From: Everywhere in the UK, but not home!
I am so disappointed with the CC and with BALPA, it seems that BALPA can't/won't send in their negociating "big" boys to flight man against man, and our CC are putty in the managements hands. Men against boys, of course we know who will win!
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: UK
Burpot well said.
The CC members I have spoken to give exactly that impression, the conciliation meetings with ACAS are a formality, I hope for our managers sake they see the error of their ways and increase the offer.
Nuff said.
The CC members I have spoken to give exactly that impression, the conciliation meetings with ACAS are a formality, I hope for our managers sake they see the error of their ways and increase the offer.
Nuff said.
L'enfant Terrible
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From: The bar of Mumbles rugby club
And not just in terms of pay and scheduling Bullet! (See below 
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BBC News - German insurer Munich Re held orgy for salesmen
)BBC News - German insurer Munich Re held orgy for salesmen
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From: UK
Min requirements for FlyDubai 737 jobs now...
... First Officers - must have 2,500 hours total flying time, of which 1,000 hours must have been gained on modern (EFIS) multi-crew, multi-engine aircraft over 10 tonnes operating weight
Good luck to any Dash FO's who fancy cash, sand and flying a jet?!
Also, good luck to Flybe keeping the crewing levels up.
Good luck to any Dash FO's who fancy cash, sand and flying a jet?!
Also, good luck to Flybe keeping the crewing levels up.
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From: UK
I agree, it's much better than our salary... I was ensuring people didn't conclude the money is better than other middle eastern carriers who provide/pay for housing THEN give you a tax-free income!
Someone I spoke to who's been at FlyDubai for a while now prefers it this way as you get more choice where to live.
It's not for everyone, but certainly sounds quite attractive.
Someone I spoke to who's been at FlyDubai for a while now prefers it this way as you get more choice where to live.
It's not for everyone, but certainly sounds quite attractive.
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From: everywhere
getting shafted
guys
for goodness sake .................. this thread is going the wrong way .Talking about other places to fly and the amount of money you can earn . Shame on everyone !! Go and talk about that elsewhere. People are leaving and ive heard 5 "E first officers " have handed in there notice and are going to gulf air. The company hinted on redundancies when responding to this dispute, and now are looking in the flybe holding pool for more pilots !! Who are gullible and who are now taking the p*ss . Its so obvious now what has to happen !!!
for goodness sake .................. this thread is going the wrong way .Talking about other places to fly and the amount of money you can earn . Shame on everyone !! Go and talk about that elsewhere. People are leaving and ive heard 5 "E first officers " have handed in there notice and are going to gulf air. The company hinted on redundancies when responding to this dispute, and now are looking in the flybe holding pool for more pilots !! Who are gullible and who are now taking the p*ss . Its so obvious now what has to happen !!!
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From: Here and there
Aware of a good 10 off to gulf and several others off to other pastures already. This before other uk doors open and the more that get e jet ratings the more saleable they will become!
I see the recruitment pages have been redone and those still interested have been asked to reapply.
Yes we need to stand and fight for our lives, but I'm afraid the inevitable evacuation will occur once other doors open.
Management know this and I reckon it's another reason why they refuse to pay proper industry rates and improve lifestyle.
I see the recruitment pages have been redone and those still interested have been asked to reapply.
Yes we need to stand and fight for our lives, but I'm afraid the inevitable evacuation will occur once other doors open.
Management know this and I reckon it's another reason why they refuse to pay proper industry rates and improve lifestyle.
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From: UK
It's starting to look like 2004/2005 all over again. Only now the directors are answerable to the shareholders - which incidentally includes a lot of us.
How long could we tolearate losing 10% of the workforce every month? How robust is our training system to process the new pilots required to make good this shortfall on top of recurrent training? How many flights can we operate without having to pair up N-rated Captains & FOs? How many CatII revals & max cosswind sim exercises will be dropped to shore up the creaking system? How many cancelled flights will that lead to this winter? And how many trainers will hang up their hats on the back of the workload required?
Did the accountants even attempt to factor in the value of pilot goodwill before they gave the board their dubious sums? Looking doubtful.
Who'll give me favourable odds of a substantial change to the make up of the board following our first AGM?
How long could we tolearate losing 10% of the workforce every month? How robust is our training system to process the new pilots required to make good this shortfall on top of recurrent training? How many flights can we operate without having to pair up N-rated Captains & FOs? How many CatII revals & max cosswind sim exercises will be dropped to shore up the creaking system? How many cancelled flights will that lead to this winter? And how many trainers will hang up their hats on the back of the workload required?
Did the accountants even attempt to factor in the value of pilot goodwill before they gave the board their dubious sums? Looking doubtful.
Who'll give me favourable odds of a substantial change to the make up of the board following our first AGM?
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From: Up Up and Away
Did the accountants even attempt to factor in the value of pilot goodwill before they gave the board their dubious sums? Looking doubtful.
