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Been swimmin' in the pool for more than 2 years, now I see parc and CTC guys getting in before me. Well I thought ezy was a serious airline, I understand it has become an unrespectful one, too.
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G.D.S
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GDS,
I know what you mean mate. That'a why I started this thread to begin with. It's time to look elsewhere and maybe somewhere out of this country might be a start.
So much for gaining experience on jets and working hard to better yourself. Hence why so many are looking at EK,EY etc in the middle east.
I wish you all the best for the future.
Sijet
I know what you mean mate. That'a why I started this thread to begin with. It's time to look elsewhere and maybe somewhere out of this country might be a start.
So much for gaining experience on jets and working hard to better yourself. Hence why so many are looking at EK,EY etc in the middle east.
I wish you all the best for the future.
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Flight to PRG Cancelled - Lack Of Crew
Dont know if they have June sorted out but im working out here in Prague just now and the hotel was full of passengers the other night delayed 24 hours.
Reason being - No Crew to fly the aircraft!!!
Maybe they are a touch short of drivers?????
Spanner
Reason being - No Crew to fly the aircraft!!!
Maybe they are a touch short of drivers?????
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per company mail, "with the release of our winter schedule,some cost reducing measures will need to be taken in order to return to a level of strength" ,now what lies beneath these glorious words.
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So, today new email with possible agreement for current Ezy employee but what about the new contract which will be effective from 1st oct?
Any Ezy Balpa member willing to get in touch? via pm?
tks.
Any Ezy Balpa member willing to get in touch? via pm?
tks.
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wind check - you appear to have lost your way and stumbled onto a thread that really does not concern you. Given your much-stated view based on zero knowledge that easyJet is a 'sh!t company', I am not sure why you have anything to say on this issue. I can only presume that our selection system has worked perfectly in the past and rejected your application - not to worry though, you apparently work for the perfect company now and will no longer have to concern yourself with the trash companies likes ours. Interestingly enough, you asked previously how the p2f 'a$$holes' sitting next to me feel about their lot at easyJet. As one of them pointed out to you elsewhere, on the whole they feel pretty good. They are being offered permanent jobs and a steady improvement financially as their experience increases. That can only be good news for the future. We are not a perfect company but many of our issues as pilots have been addresssed in our latest pay offer (even though I now think it will be rejected). We are probably the only company in the UK being offered a pay rise (1% but it is still a rise) and I for one am delighted to be at easyJet right now.
By the way wind check, Doug the Head absolutely hates working for easyJet and cannot sleep in his bed at night because he is so stressed out by his £100k-a-year salary package, 6-months' sick pay, 7% company pension contributions, loss of licence cover, staff travel, night-stop allowances, positioning pay etc. Perhaps you might be so good as direct him to that perfect airline where you work a pre-set roster pattern so you can know your days off a year in advance, fly brand new Airbuses, can work all over Europe, are being offered a pay-rise instead of a pay cut this year and have more job security than just about any other airline around. Ah sorry, that would be easyJet and that's a really rubbish company. What about that perfect one you are in? It's called..... no, sorry, it just seems to have slipped my mind.
By the way wind check, Doug the Head absolutely hates working for easyJet and cannot sleep in his bed at night because he is so stressed out by his £100k-a-year salary package, 6-months' sick pay, 7% company pension contributions, loss of licence cover, staff travel, night-stop allowances, positioning pay etc. Perhaps you might be so good as direct him to that perfect airline where you work a pre-set roster pattern so you can know your days off a year in advance, fly brand new Airbuses, can work all over Europe, are being offered a pay-rise instead of a pay cut this year and have more job security than just about any other airline around. Ah sorry, that would be easyJet and that's a really rubbish company. What about that perfect one you are in? It's called..... no, sorry, it just seems to have slipped my mind.
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Still loyally pulling the management/PR/recruitment wagon, err Norman?
With all your gratis touting here, EZY must be saving a fortune by no longer having to place job adds in Flight Global!
By the way, how are you doing with filling out those STRIKE papers?
With all your gratis touting here, EZY must be saving a fortune by no longer having to place job adds in Flight Global!
By the way, how are you doing with filling out those STRIKE papers?
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Norman, as a matter of fact I used to fly for easy before and I left after 4 years for somthing much better. Working for a low cost airline is a very exhausting job and it's killing your body. Your days off are very usefull to catch up the lack of sleep, after 5 days in a raw of early wake ups finishing late afternoon, or early midays finishing late after midnight. 4 bloody long sectors in average and maximum duties. Lots of company pressure. In fact your life duration is going down EVERY day you go to work.
I'am affraid to remind you that you will retire at 65 and your funerals will take place less than 10 years aftewards. That's why you still think easyjet treat you well.
As for P2F
, well, tell us how is their sh1t contract looking like, no fix crew base, sh1t hourly salary, etc, etc...This is getting even worse than Ryanair.
I'am affraid to remind you that you will retire at 65 and your funerals will take place less than 10 years aftewards. That's why you still think easyjet treat you well.
As for P2F
, well, tell us how is their sh1t contract looking like, no fix crew base, sh1t hourly salary, etc, etc...This is getting even worse than Ryanair.
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Sean Dillon - thanks for your valued and insightful contribution.
Doug the Head - I suggest you and wind check get into a bit of a PM flurry and he can commiserate with you still not being able to escape from the evil orange empire. He can then share with you his exciting new life which is just so much better. Go on - you owe it to yourself to leave here mate.
My own personal careers advice is, of course, always available to you at no cost. On the domestic front, there is always a good chance our very own British Airways, flushed with its current success, is about to recruit willing FOs onto the Airbus. None of that nasty final salary pension to worry about now obviously which saves any anxiety over whether it might fold some day. Also, you would not have to concern yourself with the stress of command any longer as you won't be a captain there for at least 15 years. May I also suggest that for those seeking a warmer environment to bring a gentle thaw to that cold heart, Emirates and Qatar are an excellent places to start? A number of our former employees genuinely love it out there. Mr Akbar Al Baker in Qatar is a particularly reasonable gentleman to work for I am told and would welcome any constructive criticism you might care to share with him. Just think you could be part of that process of employee involvement in all company matters he has become so appreciated for. Then of course Atlas Air are recruiting DECs on the Airbus based in Marrakech - 7000 Euros per month before tax - but it just has to be better than life here don't you think? Then, for the more seasoned veterans, opportunity knocks out there in Vietnam. Oh, I nearly forgot - Senegal Airlines are about to kick off with a rather natty little A319 operation. And then of course there are countless Chinese opportunities - Deer Air, Hainan Airways etc. And finally, both Turkish Airlines and Onur Air have been sniffing about for DECs on the Airbus. Does it get any better? As you can imagine, every one of these companies just loves and esteems its foreign pilots, and would of course treat them with unusual respect and consideration at all times. The list is just growing by the day and I can only recommend every last one of them in comparison to easyJet, which as wind check can verify is just dire.
wind check - you cannot imagine my delight to discover that you are no longer having to subject yourself to that 'company pressure' every day. Strange thing is I never get any of that, but there you go. I wish you every success my friend out there in whatever promised land you have found - for us simple folk who just like to get home most nights and have a great day out with some great people, easyJet is actually quite a good life. And, there are a whole lot of 'p2f' people about to have permanent jobs at a time when countless other companies are laying people off. It really is terrible here compared with any company you care to name.
Doug the Head - I suggest you and wind check get into a bit of a PM flurry and he can commiserate with you still not being able to escape from the evil orange empire. He can then share with you his exciting new life which is just so much better. Go on - you owe it to yourself to leave here mate.
My own personal careers advice is, of course, always available to you at no cost. On the domestic front, there is always a good chance our very own British Airways, flushed with its current success, is about to recruit willing FOs onto the Airbus. None of that nasty final salary pension to worry about now obviously which saves any anxiety over whether it might fold some day. Also, you would not have to concern yourself with the stress of command any longer as you won't be a captain there for at least 15 years. May I also suggest that for those seeking a warmer environment to bring a gentle thaw to that cold heart, Emirates and Qatar are an excellent places to start? A number of our former employees genuinely love it out there. Mr Akbar Al Baker in Qatar is a particularly reasonable gentleman to work for I am told and would welcome any constructive criticism you might care to share with him. Just think you could be part of that process of employee involvement in all company matters he has become so appreciated for. Then of course Atlas Air are recruiting DECs on the Airbus based in Marrakech - 7000 Euros per month before tax - but it just has to be better than life here don't you think? Then, for the more seasoned veterans, opportunity knocks out there in Vietnam. Oh, I nearly forgot - Senegal Airlines are about to kick off with a rather natty little A319 operation. And then of course there are countless Chinese opportunities - Deer Air, Hainan Airways etc. And finally, both Turkish Airlines and Onur Air have been sniffing about for DECs on the Airbus. Does it get any better? As you can imagine, every one of these companies just loves and esteems its foreign pilots, and would of course treat them with unusual respect and consideration at all times. The list is just growing by the day and I can only recommend every last one of them in comparison to easyJet, which as wind check can verify is just dire.
wind check - you cannot imagine my delight to discover that you are no longer having to subject yourself to that 'company pressure' every day. Strange thing is I never get any of that, but there you go. I wish you every success my friend out there in whatever promised land you have found - for us simple folk who just like to get home most nights and have a great day out with some great people, easyJet is actually quite a good life. And, there are a whole lot of 'p2f' people about to have permanent jobs at a time when countless other companies are laying people off. It really is terrible here compared with any company you care to name.
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"Norman, as a matter of fact I used to fly for easy before and I left after 4 years for somthing much better. Working for a low cost airline is a very exhausting job and it's killing your body. Your days off are very usefull to catch up the lack of sleep, after 5 days in a raw of early wake ups finishing late afternoon, or early midays finishing late after midnight. 4 bloody long sectors in average and maximum duties. Lots of company pressure. In fact your life duration is going down EVERY day you go to work.
I'am affraid to remind you that you will retire at 65 and your funerals will take place less than 10 years aftewards. That's why you still think easyjet treat you well.
As for P2F , well, tell us how is their sh1t contract looking like, no fix crew base, sh1t hourly salary, etc, etc...This is getting even worse than Ryanair."
I Totally agree with that. I've been working at easyjet for the last two years and I am already exhausted.....moral very low..
I'am affraid to remind you that you will retire at 65 and your funerals will take place less than 10 years aftewards. That's why you still think easyjet treat you well.
As for P2F , well, tell us how is their sh1t contract looking like, no fix crew base, sh1t hourly salary, etc, etc...This is getting even worse than Ryanair."
I Totally agree with that. I've been working at easyjet for the last two years and I am already exhausted.....moral very low..
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Poor NSF, slowly being exposed as a sort of orange Leo Hairy Camel: selfishly touting the management horn or telling every to bug off if they don't like it, except when his own contract is at stake of course. Such chivalry...
But hey, then again, it's pretty obvious why, isn't it...? How many more months until retirement Norm? Anything to talk up that share price and cash in those options just in time before leaving the sinking ship, right Norm? The ends justify the means, 'ey...
Like the Piper of Hamlin, our favorite direct entry "senior training captain" has gathered a following of naive, new and cheap cannon fodder (a.k.a. cadets) to feed the orange monster by telling everybody just how wunderbar life in the low-cost business is! Hey, it's so great that 'they even pay you whilst positioning,' isn't that fantastic! They f*cking better be Norman, because you're on f*cking duty! It's work and usually you get paid for doing that.
These poor kids with 200 hours and a CPL must now feel truly shafted as they have been suckered into this Ponzi scheme of paying for ratings as they stand in line hoping to be privileged enough to pay for a P2F (P2BR) schemes, not sure of how and when they can make their next interest payment on that gigantic loan that get's bigger with every 'job.' Great advice Norm! I hope you scored enough brownie points in hangar 69!
And the most scary thing about it: this low-cost sh!t will float all the way to the top, affecting all major airlines as they desperately will need to lower their T&C's in order to level the playing field to keep up with the low-costs. Soon there will not be any decent companies left over to escape to. That's why I'm so active against low-costs and the selfish, short term, naive idiots who defend it. Perhaps I have a bigger picture Norm, a picture that requires me to work for a few more decades (not months!) until retirement?
But hey, then again, it's pretty obvious why, isn't it...? How many more months until retirement Norm? Anything to talk up that share price and cash in those options just in time before leaving the sinking ship, right Norm? The ends justify the means, 'ey...
Like the Piper of Hamlin, our favorite direct entry "senior training captain" has gathered a following of naive, new and cheap cannon fodder (a.k.a. cadets) to feed the orange monster by telling everybody just how wunderbar life in the low-cost business is! Hey, it's so great that 'they even pay you whilst positioning,' isn't that fantastic! They f*cking better be Norman, because you're on f*cking duty! It's work and usually you get paid for doing that.
These poor kids with 200 hours and a CPL must now feel truly shafted as they have been suckered into this Ponzi scheme of paying for ratings as they stand in line hoping to be privileged enough to pay for a P2F (P2BR) schemes, not sure of how and when they can make their next interest payment on that gigantic loan that get's bigger with every 'job.' Great advice Norm! I hope you scored enough brownie points in hangar 69!
And the most scary thing about it: this low-cost sh!t will float all the way to the top, affecting all major airlines as they desperately will need to lower their T&C's in order to level the playing field to keep up with the low-costs. Soon there will not be any decent companies left over to escape to. That's why I'm so active against low-costs and the selfish, short term, naive idiots who defend it. Perhaps I have a bigger picture Norm, a picture that requires me to work for a few more decades (not months!) until retirement?
Doug the Head - I suggest you and wind check get into a bit of a PM flurry and he can commiserate with you still not being able to escape from the evil orange empire. He can then share with you his exciting new life which is just so much better. Go on - you owe it to yourself to leave here mate.
Just discovered that AEU is wet leasing a B757 to eJ for the summer.
Is it preferable to wet lease from another airline which cannot provide the standard eJ cabin service or is it preferable to accept contract pilots into eJ for the summer to fly eJ a/c with eJ cabin crew providing an eJ product?
Is it preferable to wet lease from another airline which cannot provide the standard eJ cabin service or is it preferable to accept contract pilots into eJ for the summer to fly eJ a/c with eJ cabin crew providing an eJ product?
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Is it preferable to wet lease from another airline which cannot provide the standard eJ cabin service or is it preferable to accept contract pilots into eJ for the summer to fly eJ a/c with eJ cabin crew providing an eJ product?
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