Going from Southwest to Ryan Air?
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From: Head in Clouds....
Going from Southwest to Ryan Air?
Please don't kill me for thinking of this.
I'm about to become a third-year FO at SWA, and am loving it.
However, there may be an opportunity to move to Europe. As bad as it can be, I do love Italy, speak a few languages, and think I could be happy there.
Ryan Air is apparently a tough place to work, but it would give me a good schedule and flexibility, and OK money.
Would anyone consider this move? or am I just nuts?
Thanks for the input!
I'm about to become a third-year FO at SWA, and am loving it.
However, there may be an opportunity to move to Europe. As bad as it can be, I do love Italy, speak a few languages, and think I could be happy there.
Ryan Air is apparently a tough place to work, but it would give me a good schedule and flexibility, and OK money.
Would anyone consider this move? or am I just nuts?
Thanks for the input!
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I won't comment on why you'd leave SWA to join FR. Everyone has there own sound reasoning.
What I will tell you is that:
1) You're not a Captain, therefore FR will not be interested in you currently. They only hire Captains (much needed) and Cadets (profitable);
2) You will need more than a passing interest in Italy and languages to eligible for employment in Europe. You need the right to LIVE and WORK in Europe;
3) You will need a JAA state licence of one sort or another, and;
4) If your JAA licence is not Irish, be prepared to convert at a cost of 300 to 400 Euro to an IAA licence.
Go figure............
What I will tell you is that:
1) You're not a Captain, therefore FR will not be interested in you currently. They only hire Captains (much needed) and Cadets (profitable);
2) You will need more than a passing interest in Italy and languages to eligible for employment in Europe. You need the right to LIVE and WORK in Europe;
3) You will need a JAA state licence of one sort or another, and;
4) If your JAA licence is not Irish, be prepared to convert at a cost of 300 to 400 Euro to an IAA licence.
Go figure............
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From: Head in Clouds....
Thanks for the reply.
I wouldn't leave until I get the required flight time as a Captain, and I know that's 10-12 years down the road.
I have the right to work in the EU, so that's not an issue.
Apparently, I can go direct-entry captain with my FAA ATP, and I have one year to get the JAA, or they'll put me in a program to get it/transfer it. (I'm a little confused on this.)
300-400 euros isn't a big deal to convert. Unless I'm missing something, and it's not a one-time fee....??
Thanks for the time!
I wouldn't leave until I get the required flight time as a Captain, and I know that's 10-12 years down the road.
I have the right to work in the EU, so that's not an issue.
Apparently, I can go direct-entry captain with my FAA ATP, and I have one year to get the JAA, or they'll put me in a program to get it/transfer it. (I'm a little confused on this.)
300-400 euros isn't a big deal to convert. Unless I'm missing something, and it's not a one-time fee....??
Thanks for the time!
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That's a bloody amazing idea to leave Southwest for going to Ryanair. If Ryanair treated its pilots like southwest pilots that would be the paradise on earth indeed!
Ryanair does have lots of bases in Italy mainland and Italian islands like Sicilia and Sardenya, however ryanair wont give a !!!! of what you want and where you want to be based. They will send you to where THEY want and that's it. You may end up in Germany or Glasgow if they need you there, and then you will have to wait months or years until they make you happy with a hypothetic transfer to italy. So bear that in mind.
You have the right to work and live in Europe, that's good for you, on the old continent there is not Green Card system, and this make your life easier for imigrating here, whereas for a european who wants to live and work in the USA it's far more complicated
cheers dude
Ryanair does have lots of bases in Italy mainland and Italian islands like Sicilia and Sardenya, however ryanair wont give a !!!! of what you want and where you want to be based. They will send you to where THEY want and that's it. You may end up in Germany or Glasgow if they need you there, and then you will have to wait months or years until they make you happy with a hypothetic transfer to italy. So bear that in mind.
You have the right to work and live in Europe, that's good for you, on the old continent there is not Green Card system, and this make your life easier for imigrating here, whereas for a european who wants to live and work in the USA it's far more complicated
cheers dude
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From: Avon, CT, USA
And the EURO?
Seems like the Euro is heading south, the experts say in one year it will be on parity with the dollar. EU socialists policies may take a dive and taxes may go up. I say there may be high unemployment over there but check out the expert's blogs.
Things change and the grass is always greener on the overside.
Lot's of guys would give their left nut to get a job with SWA.
Things change and the grass is always greener on the overside.
Lot's of guys would give their left nut to get a job with SWA.
Ryan Air / HR or Chief Pilots email please
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From: In a far better place
Beach Ball... 10 to 12 years to command? Hang tight at SWA and revisit the issue in some 9 to 11 years. By then... who knows?
With the new required pay scheme for contractors, you will be behind at FR vs. SWA.
With the new required pay scheme for contractors, you will be behind at FR vs. SWA.