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Guys, trying to 2nd guess when things may happen is a very natural thing when your in the pool, but based on the fact the Capt Monks and BA have extended the pool is a indication that things may not move quickly, but he is thinking of you..
Even within the pilot ranks at BA Capts and F/Os questions are being asked of how many and what types are we going to be flying, and do we get our aircraft changes as bid. And these questions are still not anawered, my guess is until the pilot establishment in house is sorted there will not be much recruitment.
End of 2009 would be my guess !!!!
Even within the pilot ranks at BA Capts and F/Os questions are being asked of how many and what types are we going to be flying, and do we get our aircraft changes as bid. And these questions are still not anawered, my guess is until the pilot establishment in house is sorted there will not be much recruitment.
End of 2009 would be my guess !!!!
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I was browsing PPJN tonight and saw for BA's page:
Job Title: Manager Pilot Recruitment role does not exist at present time 14/Jan/09
Has anyone got any info on this? Has J.M left the role? Has he been pushed aside? Is it a bad sign re: future recruitment?
Vrille
Job Title: Manager Pilot Recruitment role does not exist at present time 14/Jan/09
Has anyone got any info on this? Has J.M left the role? Has he been pushed aside? Is it a bad sign re: future recruitment?
Vrille
Has anyone got any info on this? Has J.M left the role? Has he been pushed aside? Is it a bad sign re: future recruitment?
JM is now Training Manager 75/76 fleet.
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With the news worsening daily, and the country effectively now bankrupt, I'm resigning myself to the fact that BA will not be calling me before late 2010, or 2011 at the earliest, if at all. I'm going to make my plans assuming they will not call, and it will be a very pleasent and welcome surprise if they do, but if an opportunity crosses my path, i'm not going to say "oh, I cant do that in case BA call in the next few months".
Just my tuppenceworth , but I think it is becoming increasingly evident that Gordon and his crooked freinds have lead us down a path that ends in national disgrace and bankrupcy. This isn't a 'recession' this is a once in a lifetime, once in a century catastrophe, and there clearly won't be any meaningful recovery in 6 months time, and I doubt there will ever be a recovery to the halcyon days of rampant consumer spending and $2 = £1, or 1.45 euros to the pound.
I'd love to work for BA and am very pleased to have passed the recruitment, but I think BA will have enough on their plate for the next few years as it is.
They are in a very strong financial position going into all this, possibly one of the strongest in the world, however they are exposed to the UK consumer more than any other major airline, so will unfortunately suffer accordingly. Not really their fault, but thats just the way it is.
Just my tuppenceworth , but I think it is becoming increasingly evident that Gordon and his crooked freinds have lead us down a path that ends in national disgrace and bankrupcy. This isn't a 'recession' this is a once in a lifetime, once in a century catastrophe, and there clearly won't be any meaningful recovery in 6 months time, and I doubt there will ever be a recovery to the halcyon days of rampant consumer spending and $2 = £1, or 1.45 euros to the pound.
I'd love to work for BA and am very pleased to have passed the recruitment, but I think BA will have enough on their plate for the next few years as it is.
They are in a very strong financial position going into all this, possibly one of the strongest in the world, however they are exposed to the UK consumer more than any other major airline, so will unfortunately suffer accordingly. Not really their fault, but thats just the way it is.
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Stop moaning 757 Driver ... I saw you beavering away on the microshat without a sweat while I was getting twitches and a spaz attack! 
You lot have had an extension which is better than the past lot and I'm sure it'll be OK later in the year for you guys!
You lot have had an extension which is better than the past lot and I'm sure it'll be OK later in the year for you guys!
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I failed BA last year and sulked for a week, so to all those who passed I am impressed and hope for poitive news as soon as possible however I have to agree 757driver opinion. Although we never know. It would seem reasonable that whilst the UK is in this extremely peculiar period of financial implosion that recruitment may be frozen. Hopefully BA will keep you chaps in the pool for an extended period.
Good luck.
Count Bawbag - you have cracked me up twice now. Ta.
Good luck.
Count Bawbag - you have cracked me up twice now. Ta.
There is also a rumour going around that BA has approached BALPA to offer redundancy to the pilots on the 757 fleet.
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"There is also a rumour going around that BA has approached BALPA to offer redundancy to the pilots on the 757 fleet"
As i'm currently on the fleet I would very grateful to know where you heard this information from as it is my understanding that the fleet will continue to operate until oct 09 when 2 x 757 and 1 longhaul 767 will be stood down. If you could also please post your comment on the BALPA forum to add a bit of integrity to the statement it would be most appreciated.
As for everyone swimming at the moment the internal bids regarding part time/retirement and fleet movement was published today so I hope this will help future pilot needs to be clarified asap. In the mean time I wish you all the best of luck
regards,
As i'm currently on the fleet I would very grateful to know where you heard this information from as it is my understanding that the fleet will continue to operate until oct 09 when 2 x 757 and 1 longhaul 767 will be stood down. If you could also please post your comment on the BALPA forum to add a bit of integrity to the statement it would be most appreciated.
As for everyone swimming at the moment the internal bids regarding part time/retirement and fleet movement was published today so I hope this will help future pilot needs to be clarified asap. In the mean time I wish you all the best of luck
regards,
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As i'm currently on the fleet I would very grateful to know where you heard this information from as it is my understanding that the fleet will continue to operate until oct 09 when 2 x 757 and 1 longhaul 767 will be stood down. If you could also please post your comment on the BALPA forum to add a bit of integrity to the statement it would be most appreciated.
BA is also close to a deal to sell 11 second hand 757 aircraft – including some of those earmarked for its new OpenSkies subsidiary flying from Paris and Amstersdam to America – potentially putting OpenSkies' growth plans even further behind schedule.
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DEP..... SSP?? any preference?
I'm a post JOC SSP in the hold pool. I know that there is my course of 8 and another course of 8 behind us. In addition to us there is a substancial number of candidates pre JOC who have also had their pool extended till Feb 2010. This means that there is actually only 16 SSP candidates ready to start Type Ratings, all other candidates will have to do a JOC first.
If BA start to pull from the hold pool, does anyone know if it will be done purely on date of sim check (DEP) and JOC (SSP) or will they preference either type of candidate?
Best of luck to everyone who is swimming.
If BA start to pull from the hold pool, does anyone know if it will be done purely on date of sim check (DEP) and JOC (SSP) or will they preference either type of candidate?
Best of luck to everyone who is swimming.
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oh my G....
Its been 4 years since I was forced to leave BA because I was 55 ( my timing was always crap ) , but the continued degrading of standards in recruitment continues , the lunatics have taken control..................
Yr command of the English language , and arrogance , confirm the general degradation of BA standards in recent years . I have many friends still flying for BA who now hate their job because of the lack of respect shown by their juniors. God forbid that these jumped up t..ts become the BA skippers of the future and continue the general dumbing down of UK society.
To emphasise the problem , one of the biggest culprits has managed to become a recruiter within a year of joining BA from British Midland . God help us all. Be very interesting how these current ' superior' FOs cope with the anarchy when they become skippers having spawned the current disrespectful regime.
Its been 4 years since I was forced to leave BA because I was 55 ( my timing was always crap ) , but the continued degrading of standards in recruitment continues , the lunatics have taken control..................
Yr command of the English language , and arrogance , confirm the general degradation of BA standards in recent years . I have many friends still flying for BA who now hate their job because of the lack of respect shown by their juniors. God forbid that these jumped up t..ts become the BA skippers of the future and continue the general dumbing down of UK society.
To emphasise the problem , one of the biggest culprits has managed to become a recruiter within a year of joining BA from British Midland . God help us all. Be very interesting how these current ' superior' FOs cope with the anarchy when they become skippers having spawned the current disrespectful regime.
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Kotakota,
Is there any point in posting if you don't have any information relevant to this thread? Any abbreviations I have made in my previous post are well understood by those to whom this thread is relevant to i.e. obviously not you. The abbreviations are also used by British Airways in their correspondance with candidates.
What evidence do you have for 'degrading standards' in recruitment -the spelling and grammar checking of an online forum?
I hope you find something more constructive to do with all your free time.
Is there any point in posting if you don't have any information relevant to this thread? Any abbreviations I have made in my previous post are well understood by those to whom this thread is relevant to i.e. obviously not you. The abbreviations are also used by British Airways in their correspondance with candidates.
What evidence do you have for 'degrading standards' in recruitment -the spelling and grammar checking of an online forum?
I hope you find something more constructive to do with all your free time.
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beastman787,
Before anyone else says anything, and I'm not having a go at you, it may be a idea to bear in mind that when you post, how it may appear to certain people who may be reading. We all need a break somewhere to start our careers, be it at a 'big' airline like BA, a 'medium' one like easyJet or Thomas Cook, a 'smaller' airline like Flybe or maybe, as Im sure MANY people reading will have done, even smaller than that, instructing, flying freight and air taxi.
However, by insinuating that you need the job more than others just because they have a 'career to fall back on', I do believe you are showing a massive disrespect to those people who may have lost their jobs at the likes of XL, Silverjet, Oasis etc. etc. etc.
Everyone in that hold pool deserves the job as much as the next person. They have all passed the selection, they are all worthy of the job.
As regards how they will pluck people out of the pool, who knows...
Maybe, if BA have a requirement for 20 people on the A320, they will look at the hold pool and select 20 people who are A320 type rated and current so that they keep their training costs down, irrespective of when they passed their sim check.
Maybe they will do it strictly by when sims were passed.
Whatever they chose to do, there is nothing YOU can do now, you've done your bit. You just have to sit tight and wait for the magic phone call. In the mean time, think about how your posts could rub people up the wrong way and how, IF this is based on an attitude you have, this could affect your career once you start your first job, whoever it may be with.
P.S. May I say, that was a timely edit to your original post :-)
Before anyone else says anything, and I'm not having a go at you, it may be a idea to bear in mind that when you post, how it may appear to certain people who may be reading. We all need a break somewhere to start our careers, be it at a 'big' airline like BA, a 'medium' one like easyJet or Thomas Cook, a 'smaller' airline like Flybe or maybe, as Im sure MANY people reading will have done, even smaller than that, instructing, flying freight and air taxi.
However, by insinuating that you need the job more than others just because they have a 'career to fall back on', I do believe you are showing a massive disrespect to those people who may have lost their jobs at the likes of XL, Silverjet, Oasis etc. etc. etc.
Everyone in that hold pool deserves the job as much as the next person. They have all passed the selection, they are all worthy of the job.
As regards how they will pluck people out of the pool, who knows...
Maybe, if BA have a requirement for 20 people on the A320, they will look at the hold pool and select 20 people who are A320 type rated and current so that they keep their training costs down, irrespective of when they passed their sim check.
Maybe they will do it strictly by when sims were passed.
Whatever they chose to do, there is nothing YOU can do now, you've done your bit. You just have to sit tight and wait for the magic phone call. In the mean time, think about how your posts could rub people up the wrong way and how, IF this is based on an attitude you have, this could affect your career once you start your first job, whoever it may be with.
P.S. May I say, that was a timely edit to your original post :-)
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sharpclassic,
Thank you for picking me up on that. I apologise to anyone who took offense. Of course I was not making the point that certain people deserve the job more than others - the point I should have made and would now like to is that I sympathise with all those who are currently out of employment in the aviation industry. I have edited my post and hope this has no further negative reflection.
I would like to make the point to kotakota that although there were several abbreviations made in my initial post, I assumed that these would be understood by those to whom this thread is relevant.
Kind Regards
Thank you for picking me up on that. I apologise to anyone who took offense. Of course I was not making the point that certain people deserve the job more than others - the point I should have made and would now like to is that I sympathise with all those who are currently out of employment in the aviation industry. I have edited my post and hope this has no further negative reflection.
I would like to make the point to kotakota that although there were several abbreviations made in my initial post, I assumed that these would be understood by those to whom this thread is relevant.
Kind Regards
