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When I was 737 F/O in the 80's, it took us 8 years to get long haul position on 742 or DC10 F/O. OTOH, it took 5 - 6 years to get long haul DC10 F/O at Condor. Some would rather to fly to sunny destinations sooner rather than flying around Europe in miserable weather.
In those days, the 742 F/O position took us away from home a lot and we had very little time at home. SOme of the cargo flights went around the world and it took about 8 -10 days before I got home. So, it's really a life style issue.
I have a old classmate and we took different route in life. He flew for the air force. When he left the airforce, LH was not hiring and he was hired by LTU.
LH is a good company and provide good job security.
In those days, the 742 F/O position took us away from home a lot and we had very little time at home. SOme of the cargo flights went around the world and it took about 8 -10 days before I got home. So, it's really a life style issue.
I have a old classmate and we took different route in life. He flew for the air force. When he left the airforce, LH was not hiring and he was hired by LTU.
LH is a good company and provide good job security.
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so Munich and Frankfurt are the main base for B75/767 ops.?
A320 fly from the same German airports, in addition to HAJ, SXF and LEJ. This of course is not fixed. Currently, if I recall correctly, people will be based in HAJ, SXF or STR when joining the A320 fleet.
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Having had a quick look into Interpersonal website and checking that the job
discription is in German, one has to assume that a good command of the
German language is mandatory or, am I wrong?
Cheers,
Zero
discription is in German, one has to assume that a good command of the
German language is mandatory or, am I wrong?
Cheers,
Zero
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Re German language,
You'll find you need a good level of German language whichever company you want to work for, particularly within the Lufthansa group, but this definitely does NOT mean you need to be German.
Lufthansa Cityline have until recently been encouraging foreign pilots, with the incentive of being able to sit the infamous DLR GU (Lufthansa screening test) in English.
I'm a brit and just got a job with Augsburg Airways (part of Lufthansa Regional). To get there I did the afore mentioned GU in English, then the sim ride in German. A hundred question ATPL exam in English and the final interview in German.
I think it is fair to say that a high proportion of German pilots fail to get into the Lufthansa stream due, in fact, to lack of English.
On a general note, one sees a lot written about protectionist policies at the likes of KLM / Air France, BA etc. In practice, I think most of these companies are willing to entertain foreigners, just as long as they are willing to fit into their culture and, of course, meet the requirements.
KT
You'll find you need a good level of German language whichever company you want to work for, particularly within the Lufthansa group, but this definitely does NOT mean you need to be German.
Lufthansa Cityline have until recently been encouraging foreign pilots, with the incentive of being able to sit the infamous DLR GU (Lufthansa screening test) in English.
I'm a brit and just got a job with Augsburg Airways (part of Lufthansa Regional). To get there I did the afore mentioned GU in English, then the sim ride in German. A hundred question ATPL exam in English and the final interview in German.
I think it is fair to say that a high proportion of German pilots fail to get into the Lufthansa stream due, in fact, to lack of English.
On a general note, one sees a lot written about protectionist policies at the likes of KLM / Air France, BA etc. In practice, I think most of these companies are willing to entertain foreigners, just as long as they are willing to fit into their culture and, of course, meet the requirements.
KT
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@Martin_skywalker.....well....you just need to Know german, thats it.
You dont need to speak it like you mother language...but you definitly need know more than what is needed to order a beer.
You dont need to speak it like you mother language...but you definitly need know more than what is needed to order a beer.
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Thank you for the info. I understand German, can read it as it is close to my native tongue, unfortunately writing and speaking is very basic. I reckon that is not good enough to get true the selections. Shame cause I am willing to "integrate" and learn the language.
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As I always say, give it a try, at the end they can only say NO.
If you understand german and you prepare yourself a bit for the selection, well, why shouldnt it be enough.
Go for it.
If you understand german and you prepare yourself a bit for the selection, well, why shouldnt it be enough.
Go for it.
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Has anyone recently been invited to the selection for F/O at Condor.
At the Interpersonal website they mention this:
Condor offers awarding job opportunities for experienced airline pilots as well as for graduates of flying schools.
• All experienced airline pilots, who have passed the LH, CLH, AUA GU and simulator screening will be invited to selection interview.
• All experienced airline pilots, who have passed the LH, CLH, AUA GU will be invited to a simulator screening and selection interview.
• All other applicants will be invited to a basic selection test, simulator screening and interview
But what does the basic selection test mean? I found some information about the simulator on german forums but from the test, the only mention the DLR tests
At the Interpersonal website they mention this:
Condor offers awarding job opportunities for experienced airline pilots as well as for graduates of flying schools.
• All experienced airline pilots, who have passed the LH, CLH, AUA GU and simulator screening will be invited to selection interview.
• All experienced airline pilots, who have passed the LH, CLH, AUA GU will be invited to a simulator screening and selection interview.
• All other applicants will be invited to a basic selection test, simulator screening and interview
But what does the basic selection test mean? I found some information about the simulator on german forums but from the test, the only mention the DLR tests
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Yes thats it, the famous DLR Test, if you have passed the first stage of the DLR Test for LH, AUA, CLH, etc you are directly in the 2. phase, if not, you have to do that one first. Enjoy it
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I have always heard mainly positives regarding Condor. Nice airplanes and nice routes. In this case, is it the perceived low pay for newhire FOs that people should be concerned about? Can anyone estimate what is the current pay difference between a new/junior LH A320 FO and a new Condor A320 FO?
Lastly, will current LH pilots still be able to bid for Condor seats in the future or is that no longer the case?
Lastly, will current LH pilots still be able to bid for Condor seats in the future or is that no longer the case?
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Lastly, will current LH pilots still be able to bid for Condor seats in the future or is that no longer the case?
