Ryanair 'floating base' during line training
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From: In a far better place
Hey Ryanair Pilot... I hope you aren't the type to rat out those who use the jump seat to travel to an from one of their many homes. The jump seat is a right to all employees of the company and not empowered to be treated or critized of use by you or any other company holier than thou types.
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From: the forest from which little acorns do big oak trees grow.
fojns
the jump seat is certainly not a right, it is a privelege and if you abuse it (which you obviously do) then you will lose it. but it's things like that you will learn if you ever start command training.
the jump seat is certainly not a right, it is a privelege and if you abuse it (which you obviously do) then you will lose it. but it's things like that you will learn if you ever start command training.
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From: In a far better place
Very mature response Ryanairpilot
. The jump seat is for a pilot has been... still is... and will be a right. I would guess that you are in the minority amongst your peers when it comes to this issue.
. The jump seat is for a pilot has been... still is... and will be a right. I would guess that you are in the minority amongst your peers when it comes to this issue.
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f/a aka ryanair wanabe pilot
No... probably your lack of familiarity as an up-front crewmember. You assert that you hope I never demand a jump seat from you. I'll never know who you are, and vise versa. So save the macho talk for the mirror. I know, your reply to me will be “And I hope I never meet you”.
Second you’re naive as to who is riding home or just riding for the sake of riding, unless of course you trying to rack up the old brownie points with your superiors ergo the need for an adequate supply of tissues for the brown spots on the old schnozola.
So FAryanairpilot… you just keep on with your quest for those evil offenders of your company’s Flt. Ops. Manual... snitch on such offenders, and you good sir, will receive all that is due you from your fellow colleagues for such fine work.
Now be that good little f/a that your are and don’t forget to insure that your passengers’ tray tables are in their upright position and be sure that your keep your hands under your thighs during takeoffs and landings.
No... probably your lack of familiarity as an up-front crewmember. You assert that you hope I never demand a jump seat from you. I'll never know who you are, and vise versa. So save the macho talk for the mirror. I know, your reply to me will be “And I hope I never meet you”.
Second you’re naive as to who is riding home or just riding for the sake of riding, unless of course you trying to rack up the old brownie points with your superiors ergo the need for an adequate supply of tissues for the brown spots on the old schnozola.
So FAryanairpilot… you just keep on with your quest for those evil offenders of your company’s Flt. Ops. Manual... snitch on such offenders, and you good sir, will receive all that is due you from your fellow colleagues for such fine work.
Now be that good little f/a that your are and don’t forget to insure that your passengers’ tray tables are in their upright position and be sure that your keep your hands under your thighs during takeoffs and landings.
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From: where it's yellow not green
jesus christ guys, take a step back and see how embarrassing it is to see you guys having a fight on pprune!
having said that... come on ryanairpilot, my neck hurts enough at the end of the working day from looking over my shoulder for management trying to screw me over and catch me out (might take away my monthly allowance...!), we really don't need our own colleagues doing us over.
ok if i want to go for a piss up to palma for a weekend, i'll go staff travel (thus meaning i can have some of those great bullseye baggies), but surely if we want to nip to somewhere in europe that's not home we can do that?
i hope i don't meet you on a flight, and not because you'll deny my jump seat, but because i dont fancy sitting next to you for a few hours.
apologies for continuing the bickering, the contradiction to my initial statement is noticed...
having said that... come on ryanairpilot, my neck hurts enough at the end of the working day from looking over my shoulder for management trying to screw me over and catch me out (might take away my monthly allowance...!), we really don't need our own colleagues doing us over.
ok if i want to go for a piss up to palma for a weekend, i'll go staff travel (thus meaning i can have some of those great bullseye baggies), but surely if we want to nip to somewhere in europe that's not home we can do that?
i hope i don't meet you on a flight, and not because you'll deny my jump seat, but because i dont fancy sitting next to you for a few hours.
apologies for continuing the bickering, the contradiction to my initial statement is noticed...
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From: UK
Well said Bongle! Enough of handbags at dawn already!
However I have to agree with RYRpliot.. for it is written that "jumpseat travel is a privilege" (but it can be used to your advantage if you keep a low profile, and use it sensibly).
Captjns is incorrect, and comes across as the type of full-stroke winker who turns up at the aircraft before the passengers, without having spoken to the dispatcher .. and, if he can be bothered, introduces himself by saying: "I'M JUMPSEATING WITH YOU" , and then hangs around in the galley getting in the way. He might even be the jumpseater I had once who sported a natty Captain's uniform cap with gold oak leaves on the peak, which he bought on t'interweb. Very smart he would have looked too, except it was two sizes too big...
However I have to agree with RYRpliot.. for it is written that "jumpseat travel is a privilege" (but it can be used to your advantage if you keep a low profile, and use it sensibly).
Captjns is incorrect, and comes across as the type of full-stroke winker who turns up at the aircraft before the passengers, without having spoken to the dispatcher .. and, if he can be bothered, introduces himself by saying: "I'M JUMPSEATING WITH YOU" , and then hangs around in the galley getting in the way. He might even be the jumpseater I had once who sported a natty Captain's uniform cap with gold oak leaves on the peak, which he bought on t'interweb. Very smart he would have looked too, except it was two sizes too big...
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From: where it's yellow not green
i'd agree with that, sid plate. keep a low profile, introduce yourself to the dispatcher and the crew, don't take the piss with getting on first with a huge suitcase and then hanging around in the galley chatting up the 18 year old polish number one while she tries to welcome the pax ('welcome' meaning randomly checking a few boarding cards)
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From: In a far better place
SID PLATE just a bit of clarification the proper protocol to check with the captain to see if the jump seat is available, and not to say that one is riding the jumpseat. Then if the captain approves, then the jumpseater notifies the dispatcher as appropriate.
It is also protocol to wait unitl all passengers have taken their seats before taking an unoccupied one. With that being said, the forward galley area or in the jetway, if one is being used, is the proper place for a jumpseater to wait.
I am sure that you, along with RYANAIRPILOT are the jumpseat police or your flights when needed and ensure that your jumpseater(s) don't occupy any seats blocked off for CG purposes, the first row, last, or emergency exit rows, until all passengers have been seated.
It is also protocol to wait unitl all passengers have taken their seats before taking an unoccupied one. With that being said, the forward galley area or in the jetway, if one is being used, is the proper place for a jumpseater to wait.
I am sure that you, along with RYANAIRPILOT are the jumpseat police or your flights when needed and ensure that your jumpseater(s) don't occupy any seats blocked off for CG purposes, the first row, last, or emergency exit rows, until all passengers have been seated.
