Ryanair 'floating base' during line training
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Ryanair 'floating base' during line training
Could someone please explain the ins and outs of how this works.
I assume, after completing a TR and then base check, you are rostered to start line training at a particular FR base. Do you not stick with the same person for a while as you are starting off, or do you fly with a different Captain each time?
Also, if you move around from week to week, as I have read previously, does the company pay for your accomodation and transport at the different bases?
Many thanks.
I assume, after completing a TR and then base check, you are rostered to start line training at a particular FR base. Do you not stick with the same person for a while as you are starting off, or do you fly with a different Captain each time?
Also, if you move around from week to week, as I have read previously, does the company pay for your accomodation and transport at the different bases?
Many thanks.
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Simple answer and not meant to be blunt.
YOu will fly and be rostered from whatever base in the network they have a training captain free in.
Costs associated are your responsability and yours only, you will get none of it back.
Hope that helps
YOu will fly and be rostered from whatever base in the network they have a training captain free in.
Costs associated are your responsability and yours only, you will get none of it back.
Hope that helps
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Thanks for the response.
What Im wondering is, if you change base from week to week, is there nothing that the airline covers in terms of costs?
For example, say you've just started line training in Charleroi. Your roster for the next month shows Stansted and Bergamo as your bases.
If thats a likely scenario, as it seems to be with the 'floating base' thing, is the person then expected to fork out for a flight to Stansted, find a hotel for five days, then fly down to Italy, find another hotel for five days and pay for that as well?
What Im wondering is, if you change base from week to week, is there nothing that the airline covers in terms of costs?
For example, say you've just started line training in Charleroi. Your roster for the next month shows Stansted and Bergamo as your bases.
If thats a likely scenario, as it seems to be with the 'floating base' thing, is the person then expected to fork out for a flight to Stansted, find a hotel for five days, then fly down to Italy, find another hotel for five days and pay for that as well?
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You will be able to position on the Ryanair network for free, see staff travel on crewdock. However all other expenses will be yours. Your salary probably won't cover your expenses to start with but it will get better in a few months. Hope you have an understanding bank manager until then.
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The free travel on FR flights is most definately on a standby basis, you will need to check seats available regularly and should you not travel due to a full flight then it is YOUR problem.
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To all those easyJet pilots reading this with horror, but think 1% on BALPA is too much - this is what the future looks like unless you stand with the rest of us. Read it and weep.
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Why the surprise at this revelation? We all know FR are a crock. This actually sounds like one of his less hair brained, offensive, aggressive tactics.
FR are the lowest of the low. The bottom of the bucket. It is impossible to comprehemnd how people consider this a worthwhile airline to work for.
Thank God for airlines that have Pilots who have backbone. Such as BA. Without guys prepared to strike to preserve T's and C's, we would be in a World of pain.
Don't forget your snadwiches, water, teabags and of course your own gash bag to put it all in. You will get none of these either.
I hope you feel your £70000 training costs to become a Prostitute were worth it !!
FR are the lowest of the low. The bottom of the bucket. It is impossible to comprehemnd how people consider this a worthwhile airline to work for.
Thank God for airlines that have Pilots who have backbone. Such as BA. Without guys prepared to strike to preserve T's and C's, we would be in a World of pain.
Don't forget your snadwiches, water, teabags and of course your own gash bag to put it all in. You will get none of these either.
I hope you feel your £70000 training costs to become a Prostitute were worth it !!
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You are able to jumpseat across the entire network no questions but you must follow the compnay procedure. (board last, inform captain/dispatcher, dont take the best seats)
As for the union/T's & C's issue we all know its not as simple as a three sentence paragraph.
As for the union/T's & C's issue we all know its not as simple as a three sentence paragraph.
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Don't forget your snadwiches, water, teabags and of course your own gash bag to put it all in. You will get none of these either.
I hope you feel your £70000 training costs to become a Prostitute were worth it !!
I hope you feel your £70000 training costs to become a Prostitute were worth it !!
Pure class Stansdead...the likes of you who go around looking for RYR threads to post a load of f*ckin garbage.
This thread started as a genuine question about RYR and look where its ended!
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The reason these threads end up where they do is that the truth hurts sometimes. Newbee's deserve to know the truth so thay can make up their own mind.......... Respect is not a word FR are familiar with the meaning of..........
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jiffajaffa
apart from the controversial 'prostitute' tag, which part of stansdead's post is a "load of f*ckin garbage"?
seems pretty much spot on to me.
apart from the controversial 'prostitute' tag, which part of stansdead's post is a "load of f*ckin garbage"?
seems pretty much spot on to me.
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Congratulations, FinallyFying!
Congrats with your job!
Contact EMT and tell them you would like to do all your line training in Stansted. They have many LTC's there and in my case (a year ago) I did all my training from STN. If not, you can find all the info you need for B&Bs and so on on crewdock.
As a general comment: As long as I get more money than anywhere else, fly close to 900 hrs per year and have a dead steady roster and good collegues, I'm staying with Ryanair. Life at smaller bases is the way to go!
Contact EMT and tell them you would like to do all your line training in Stansted. They have many LTC's there and in my case (a year ago) I did all my training from STN. If not, you can find all the info you need for B&Bs and so on on crewdock.
As a general comment: As long as I get more money than anywhere else, fly close to 900 hrs per year and have a dead steady roster and good collegues, I'm staying with Ryanair. Life at smaller bases is the way to go!
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JIFFAJAFFA,
What part of my post is pure f@cking garbage?
I think that it was all factually correct, at least that is what my very tired, continually downtrodden mates who fly for FR tell me anyway.
I however would not know for sure, because I would not work for dear old Mr O'Leary.......
So, put your mouth into gear and tell me where I was wrong. If you can.
Or was it mentioning that you now must bring your own gash bags that upset your delicate, professional sensibilities?
What part of my post is pure f@cking garbage?
I think that it was all factually correct, at least that is what my very tired, continually downtrodden mates who fly for FR tell me anyway.
I however would not know for sure, because I would not work for dear old Mr O'Leary.......
So, put your mouth into gear and tell me where I was wrong. If you can.
Or was it mentioning that you now must bring your own gash bags that upset your delicate, professional sensibilities?
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Your post is garbage because yet again another RYR thread got to do with something completely different has been spun into an anti-ryr campaign, everbody knows by now RYR policies and t&c's are crap and im not doubting that your facts are actually factual, so what is the point in reiterating the same topics that have been mentioned on various other threads over and over again!
This thread initially started out with a poster looking for info on RYR line training and look where its going!
Just leave him get his info and we can move away from this silly argument
Yet again!
A professional pilot making a statement like this??
70000 you will find is now what it costs to do your training unless your mummy and daddy have paid for it or else your one of the lucky ones who gets sponsored so give the guy a break a simple question requires a simple answer!
Thats my piece said!
This thread initially started out with a poster looking for info on RYR line training and look where its going!
Just leave him get his info and we can move away from this silly argument
Yet again!
I hope you feel your £70000 training costs to become a Prostitute were worth it
70000 you will find is now what it costs to do your training unless your mummy and daddy have paid for it or else your one of the lucky ones who gets sponsored so give the guy a break a simple question requires a simple answer!
Thats my piece said!
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You dont bring your own gash bags thats where you are wrong (at least where I work from). Also I have yet to work for an airline (and ive been with quite a few) where the pilots as a GROUP have collective backbone, you are wrong there too.
You are also wrong when you say Ryanair is the lowest of the low - comments like that generally come from inexerienced pilots who havn't really seen or worked for the lowest of the low - you are wrong there to.
To get back to the first querey. Generally Ryanair (EMT) will try to accomadate you in a training base request it is very unusual that you will visit more that two bases during line training. If you do its because thats where there are training slots available. Either way it won't be a last minute surprise.
Traveling between bases on the network in uniform ie jumpseat is free and never a problem. Yes you pay for your own hotel/B&B and the taxi/bus to the airport.
You will earn as a cadet during you apprentiship - and thats the only way to look at it not very much - but its a quickish apprentiship with a reasonably good salary after year 1. A structured route to command and the option to work in one of the many european bases on a 5 on 4 off roster (fixed in most bases now?) which does not change - You could book you car in for an MOT in December.
Also as far as airline flying is concerned it is a interesting and very dynamic place to be.
There you go now you can make your choice.
Rgds
You dont bring your own gash bags thats where you are wrong (at least where I work from). Also I have yet to work for an airline (and ive been with quite a few) where the pilots as a GROUP have collective backbone, you are wrong there too.
You are also wrong when you say Ryanair is the lowest of the low - comments like that generally come from inexerienced pilots who havn't really seen or worked for the lowest of the low - you are wrong there to.
To get back to the first querey. Generally Ryanair (EMT) will try to accomadate you in a training base request it is very unusual that you will visit more that two bases during line training. If you do its because thats where there are training slots available. Either way it won't be a last minute surprise.
Traveling between bases on the network in uniform ie jumpseat is free and never a problem. Yes you pay for your own hotel/B&B and the taxi/bus to the airport.
You will earn as a cadet during you apprentiship - and thats the only way to look at it not very much - but its a quickish apprentiship with a reasonably good salary after year 1. A structured route to command and the option to work in one of the many european bases on a 5 on 4 off roster (fixed in most bases now?) which does not change - You could book you car in for an MOT in December.
Also as far as airline flying is concerned it is a interesting and very dynamic place to be.
There you go now you can make your choice.
Rgds