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Old 5th Jan 2008, 17:35
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Think pay will be slightly more than 47K if under the MYT AOC.
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...well who knows what will happen? It will be 'slightly more' yes, since we will soon be due at least an inflation-level payrise and potential harmonising of payscales between the two constituent airlines. Until that happens though, the basic, year 1, SFO salary for a Thomas Cook pilot on the old TCX T&Cs is £47,210. I guess that since the advertised requirement is for 500 hours you could join as a year 1 FO (<1500 hrs), in which case the starting salary is currently £36,366.

As part of the ongoing dicussions between management and the union with regards to the merger, the issue of new joiners has been raised with no decisions made as yet with regard to the contract they will be offered.
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OK, couple more questions

With >500 hours on type (757) but a few hundred hours short of a full ATPL, what would be the starting salary offered?
PPJN has a separate FO / SFO scale for thomas cook, but not for My travel?

What's the pension, ppjn shows nothing for thomas cook, 3% employee + 14% employer for my travel?

What is a typical 757 roster for gatwick and stansted? out and backs? or trips / bullets?
Mainly day flights? night flights? varied destinations or the same timetable week in week out?

How long before 767 is on offer?

How close to the airport does one have to live? what is the standby requirement for time from call to report, and how likely is a call out on standby days (i know this is a 'piece of string question', but I know some people have never been called in some airlines, and others are getting called all the time)

Does the 10-15 years to command ballpark sound sensible at the moment? seniority list based?
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 10:18
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As mentioned before, pilots will be recruited under the new host AOC...which is former MYT. I can't see any pilots being paid less than 40K starting salary.
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OK, couple more questions

With >500 hours on type (757) but a few hundred hours short of a full ATPL, what would be the starting salary offered?
PPJN has a separate FO / SFO scale for thomas cook, but not for My travel?
You will probably be offered a FO salary to start and as soon as you upgrade to a full ATPL you will be moved on to SFO salary.

What's the pension, ppjn shows nothing for thomas cook, 3% employee + 14% employer for my travel?
Pension scheme is still being negotiated, you will probably be on MYT scheme or something fairly close

What is a typical 757 roster for gatwick and stansted? out and backs? or trips / bullets?
Mainly day flights? night flights? varied destinations or the same timetable week in week out?
STN is 320, and will be staying 320. 757 LGW is mostly short haul 2 sector there and back, mix of days and nights varied roster. There are some longer trips (Canada etc).

How long before 767 is on offer?
It may be possible get 767 straight away, if not then it will be by senority, the 767 is planned to do short haul out of the main bases over the summer, not sure if it will go long haul in the winter.

How close to the airport does one have to live? what is the standby requirement for time from call to report, and how likely is a call out on standby days (i know this is a 'piece of string question', but I know some people have never been called in some airlines, and others are getting called all the time)
Standby call out time is 90 minutes, where you live is up to you as long as your available to make the standbys if called in. As for how often... as you said piece of string.... could go for a couple of months without being called in from standby, then get called in three times in a row!

Does the 10-15 years to command ballpark sound sensible at the moment? seniority list based?
Yes and Yes...

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Old 6th Jan 2008, 12:22
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Not sure where you get the suppositions from Emu, without a full ATPL its SO salary upgrading to FO , SFO after 3 years or 4000ish hours, regarding pension it is more likely that the TCX package would be offered by the company as they pay less that way.
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 17:11
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torque2 my 'supposition' came from the fact that it says it in black and white on their recruitment website...

with regards the pension I will admit that I am not sure over the state of play

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Summer-only working is available on the short-haul operation. I believe it is 80% of the pay year round but is more like 7 months on, 5 off now.

The booking of leave, days off etc has now been simplified by adopting MYTs system allowing you to access a spreadsheet and book your leave/days off there and then instead of having to wait months to see if you have been successful or not.

BALPA is well represented. Over 80% membership I believe and a powerful tool in negotations with management. Too early to tell if the new management is going to try to screw us on T&Cs but I would imagine so as most airline managements try to these days don't they ?
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Old 10th Jan 2008, 20:47
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So this round of recruitment is only for part time summer contracts???

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Old 10th Jan 2008, 21:00
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Hi,
Having spoken to the flight deck recruitment co-ordinator, the joint company is looking to recruit aprox 30 FO's on a permanant contract, however this my well change.
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Old 10th Jan 2008, 22:07
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Is the change likely to be an increase or decrease? When will the final figure be known?

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Old 11th Jan 2008, 10:44
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Do they allow you to request days off other than annual leave entitlement days?
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 10:36
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Thumbs up

yes you can request days off and there is a facility for a GDO (Guaranteed) day off provision, there are about six of these per year plus your allocation of leave.
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 10:47
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Quite alot of CTC cadets will fill any available positions too this summer.
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 21:04
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Londonmet, where do you get your info from? I'm curious, what makes you think that most of the posts available this summer will go to CTC cadets? If the company are looking for type rated pilots, why would they suddenly employ cadets with little or no experience, possible for the sake of saving a few pounds.
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 21:16
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Inside info. Just that I know of the courses that will be going there and from a rough guess there's about 8 per course, min. If there are then a total of 24 pilots being provided from CTC out of their total requirement then it fits to suggest that a lot of their requirement this year will be provided by CTC.

It's not really a more expensive route actually. From what I know of the scheme that is, please correct if i'm wrong.

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Old 13th Jan 2008, 22:47
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The RHS experience level in the merged company is very high now. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see an influx of CTC cadets to smooth out the experience demographics.
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Old 14th Jan 2008, 05:12
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Anybody know if any of the CTC guys going to Mytravel will be ATP guys?

And when will the training start?
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Old 14th Jan 2008, 08:38
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Jesper,

My Travel does not exist. It is now Thomas Cook.
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 10:38
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Any infoon chances of a GLA base, and will they see Airbuses there or will it remain 757 ?
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