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Easyjet Strike?

Old 1st August 2007 | 21:06
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Amazing that this is the best we can get in a red-hot pilot market...

Next on the agenda: local contracts for EU bases?
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Old 1st August 2007 | 21:18
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oh my dear

this is the end of Balpa in Easyjet, the management showed a much stronger position and from now on everything will be harder...

About local contracts, this is the reason why the CC has pushed for collective bargain in any bases....
The future???

P.S. want to get an extra 1%???
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Old 1st August 2007 | 21:34
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Unhappy

Well it looks that BALPA has not only lost the negotiation deal for the UK, but it appears that the have had to let MAD go to achieve what they got.
And all that with the full support of their members.
I thought we were going for a strike to achieve what we wanted.
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Old 1st August 2007 | 22:02
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Let´s wait for the ballot about this "offer". Then it will be clear where we are going!

The hint to gain 1% is one of cheapest hints which will lead to nothing at the end!
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Old 1st August 2007 | 22:15
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Crap deal but I sense there is more to this. Could the CC be claiming the moral high ground by balloting members with the reasonable degree of certainty that the result will be no? Would this not leave them in a stronger position after the ballot? Failing that they have either misjudged the feelings of their membership or realise that when the red letter day arrives maybe all the supermillitants will not actually have the bottle to strike. Who knows but stay tuned for another thrilling installment of notreallyeasyatallJet.com
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Old 3rd August 2007 | 15:34
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Thumbs up Pay Deal

I hear that the pay and conditions at ezy are good, I dream of a 5/3/5/4 and a stable roster.

Instead of striking if you really do not like the company then perhaps you should leave. From what I hear there would not be any shortage of replacements.
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Old 3rd August 2007 | 15:49
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Say NO to the latest offer, YES to IA and the cc will have to go back to management with a stronger mandate. Just because they put a recommend on it does not mean it's a done deal. Now is the time to bring T&C's towards what they should be after all the reductions in the past.
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Old 3rd August 2007 | 15:53
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Hapzim

what reductions in the past? Captains on what is it? Nearly Ł100 grand a year! Don't live in the past - look to the future.

Some battles are worth fighting but this one certainly is not.
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Old 3rd August 2007 | 16:30
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albertoli, you're clearly clueless as to the reality of salaries in EZY. Do you work for the Daily Mail ?
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Old 3rd August 2007 | 16:33
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Cor... interesting profile details.
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Old 3rd August 2007 | 18:32
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Albertoli,

Even if it was 100 grand a year for a captain, what would be wrong with that?
EasyJet captains do a tremendous job of flying around one of the busiest airspace in the world, multiple sectors in all sorts of weather conditions, flying into well dodgy places, all this with a tremendous safety record. So yes in my opinion they would deserve at least 100 grand a year, and much more if you ask me. The bean counters in their office know nothing about what it is like to have 150 lives times 4 in their hands everytime they come in to work! Yet they seem to reep most of the company's success, even though it is us, the flight and cabin crew who make the whole thing work.

It is time we stand up for ourselves, and restore the consideration our profession deserves.
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Old 3rd August 2007 | 18:51
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*polite applause*

One suspects that a new member whose only posts discourage Industrial Action might have an agenda of some sort.
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Old 3rd August 2007 | 23:15
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Even if it was 100 grand a year for a captain, what would be wrong with that?
EasyJet captains do a tremendous job of flying around one of the busiest airspace in the world, multiple sectors in all sorts of weather conditions, flying into well dodgy places, all this with a tremendous safety record. So yes in my opinion they would deserve at least 100 grand a year, and much more if you ask me. The bean counters in their office know nothing about what it is like to have 150 lives times 4 in their hands everytime they come in to work! Yet they seem to reep most of the company's success, even though it is us, the flight and cabin crew who make the whole thing work.
ZBMAN, stop it, you are making us crying
most of us here are flying in the same airspace with same weather. If you are not happy with easy, go to another company ...
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Old 3rd August 2007 | 23:22
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Nuageblanc & Albertoli,

leave this matter to the EZY pilots and take care about your own business/airline!
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Old 4th August 2007 | 13:32
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Some people will never be happy regardless of how much they earn.
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Old 4th August 2007 | 15:07
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Originally Posted by nuage blanc
most of us here are flying in the same airspace with same weather. If you are not happy with easy, go to another company ...
You are not talking about yourself are you? Because with 350hrs TT and NO commercial experience whatsoever I fail to grasp how you can understand the conditions in which we fly.

My suggestion: change your attitude. It is a small world and one day or another people will remember your ludicrous posts on pprune.

Just so that everyone knows who we are talking to, please refer to the topic "EZY future hiring". Very interesting.

Originally Posted by nuage blanc
I am a wanabee ATPL frozen pilot, but I have been flying as cabin crew for 3 years in a flag carrier airline, so I know about rosters

Guillaume
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Old 4th August 2007 | 15:37
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Now Now.

He may be inexperienced but his point is valid, I do not think that the Jet 2 guys get paid as much as the guys in easy but we all still fly in the same airspace and weather.

Difference is..... I do know what I am talking about.
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Old 4th August 2007 | 15:44
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So instead of working to improve conditions in a profitable airline we should think about those who are paid less for doing the same job elsewhere? Here is one, most wannabes would kill to fly a jet without having to pay for it themselves... I rest my case....
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Old 4th August 2007 | 15:49
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No my point is that if you are not happy then don't strike just go somewhere else. This would leave some slots for the pilots at Thomas Cook and MYT who may have to leave their employment in the very near future.

It id ok to be happy with your lot.
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Old 4th August 2007 | 16:15
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Again, ALBERTOLI,

leave it up to the pilots of EZY! It is quite normal, first you try to improve conditions in your present company and if that doesn´t work out, than it is time to look for a new emplyment!
And the pilots from Thomas Cook and MYT or JET2 could have joint at the last recruiting round. If they wanted to!?
There is a new recruiting round at EZY. If you like EZY´s working condition, come on and join the orange world!
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