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Old 26th Nov 2006, 13:51
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Originally Posted by ImAflyGirl View Post
Hi guys,
From my viewpoint, Flybe is a company that has it's feet firmly planted and is eager to be a better employer and offer as good or better than the comp. Flybe has been good to me and I hope that those of you who work for BACon get what you are looking for by joining Flybe I am sure it is difficult to not know what is going to happen.
They are upping the current terms to match other employers. Can't say the last payrise was much to write home about though. Just wondering if anyone would mind sharing details with a current flybe girl. Wondering about things what day is payday, how much are disruption pay, shift change, day off and any other things you get paid for. What is flight pay like and how much is taxable, etc. Do you get much in the way of dispensation as Flybe just upped that to be in line with other airlines.
Good luck and just to say that Flybe is a happy little family and I for one hope you will be happy when you join.
I am sure our paths will cross at some time or another if you stay.
Thanks
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Thats great Flygirl except you posted in a thread about Monarchs T&Cs....
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Old 26th Nov 2006, 15:29
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Hi, to come back to the topic of Monarch and Easy, from an experienced F/O's point of view, it seems Monarch is offering better T+Cs than Easy with roughly 42000 GBP and nothing to pay towards the type rating(provided you stay 3 years minimum) whilst Easy is offering about 30000 GBP excluding moneys paid towards the bond. I am an outsider so I gathered this information from the internet. Could someone in the know confirm these T+Cs?
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Old 26th Nov 2006, 17:50
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Originally Posted by Easy Ryder View Post
Thats great Flygirl except you posted in a thread about Monarchs T&Cs....
Sorry about that. I am new to PPRuNe. Struggling to make my post work.
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Old 26th Nov 2006, 22:48
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FBOZH, I stand to be corrected but looking at easyjet's website it looks as if an experienced but non type rated FO starts on £39,740 plus £14.18/sector. There is no sector pay at Monarch that makes quite a difference.

http://www.easyjet.com/EN/Jobs/Pilot...dbenefits.html
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Old 27th Nov 2006, 10:01
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I believe FBOZH is talking about TRSS, which is a totally different animal.
DE SFO with EZY pays pays 44k plus sector pay, which is quite significantly better than MON.
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Old 27th Nov 2006, 10:55
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DE SFO with easy gets 44,740 plus sector pay (although it's 90% of this or 40,266 for the first 6 months). It's 39,740 if you are on the TRSS (Type Rating Sponsorship Scheme) as you are paying back 5,000 a year for 5 years - this is for licence holders without medium/heavy multi-crew commercial jet experience.
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Old 27th Nov 2006, 15:27
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you are right, I was talking about TRSS. I just checked the website and there is a significant difference at Easy between F/Os and senior F/Os. Could somenone tell me the difference? If I join with a Full ATPL and 2600TT, will that make me senior? Thanks
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Old 27th Nov 2006, 15:49
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The website seems to imply that a First Officer has a frozen ATPL as it's in brackets after the rank in the table. So I assume once it is unfrozen you are then a "Senior First Officer". So you would go in as an SFO I think.
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 05:25
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It depends on jet hours too. They have only recently recognised the BAE 146 to be good/big enough for direct entry, so anything that or bigger should get you straigfht in on SFO.
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 10:56
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How did this turn into a thread about EZ's requirements?
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 15:25
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sorry!
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Old 29th Nov 2006, 16:14
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Back to Monarch

Management are now building in to their recruitment plans an additional number of places to cover the attrition rate, those leaving to find better T & C esp pension. The financial package now no longer makes up for the unstable rosters and poor quality of lifestyle.

If the Flybe new package is what i have heard we will find that source of pilots dwindiling.

Maybe time for Mr B to start to hear the real story.
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Old 1st Dec 2006, 18:55
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Wink

Thats ok you will be able to swell Monarch's ranks with BACon drivers
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Old 4th Dec 2006, 11:00
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Originally Posted by hapzim View Post
Maybe time for Mr B to start to hear the real story.
A little bird tells me that a "things PB should know" website is presently under construction...
It has to be said that at the recent pilot meetings it was apparent that RS has kept PB in the dark about a number of major issues - perhaps RS has been sailing a little too close to the wind??

Not that I'm one for conspiracy theories, but it was strange how some of our most senior captains (and some of RS's biggest fans) who were origionally rostered for the meeting - were plot changed to fly at the last minute... how very convenient
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Old 4th Dec 2006, 14:13
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Mayby it should be called "RS tells fibs when his lips move" or....

"dayoff payments cause roster disruption"

"18-30 rest periods"

"why hotac when you can stay in a hostel?"

Perhaps there'll be a bit more shouting from PB in RS's direction? I smell work to rule on the way
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Old 4th Dec 2006, 14:20
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Strange scarebus, because there is a private forum right here on PPRuNe which I am reliably informed is "well read" and it is anonymous. Both of the gentlemen you allude to, hold occaisional meetings at all of the main bases where you would be able to put your complaint or concern. I am reasonably certain that if I placed a telephone call to their office now, I would either be put directly in contact or called back as soon as possible.

As for the recent meetings. Given there were a seemingly large number of people rostered to attend, and that anyone on a day off or otherwise not flying were generally invited to attend, it is hard to imagine that a coherent plan to prevent the most likely vociferous attendees was orchestrated. As amusing as the concept is, it does stretch the outer limits of credulity.
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Old 5th Dec 2006, 06:26
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I am in the hold pool for Monarch, just wondering if anyone has received start dates for the Airbus out of Birmingham yet?
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Old 12th Dec 2006, 15:57
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For Schedules:
Barcelona
Malaga
Alicante
Almeria
Palma
Tenerife South
Ibiza
Jerez
Faro
Menorca
Lanzarote

Plz correct or add more - Hell the easiest way is to go on the website put departure airport as MAN and see what all the destinations are!
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Old 12th Dec 2006, 18:18
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The majority of the charter work is on the the boeings and A300 unfortunately, It happens but not that often on the baby bus.
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Old 12th Dec 2006, 18:48
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and the night CFU's followed by night RHO to finish a run of 5... how I am going to miss all this!!

Yes you do get a few charters in the summer as I've mentioned. In the winter, there's the odd ski flight to Bulgaria or Austria.
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