What is your take-home pay at the end of the month?
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Money isn't everything, it won't bring you happiness. It just means you can be miserable in comfort. As long as you've got a couple of quid left at the end of the week to play the lottery then thats fine.
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$12,000 USD after taxes. 25 yrs B-777-200IGW Capt for a really big US carrier.
Last yr gross was $200K (flew 430 hrs) and shrinking....sigh
It sucks making less that a BA captain!
Last yr gross was $200K (flew 430 hrs) and shrinking....sigh
It sucks making less that a BA captain!
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I wouldnt say you made less than a BA Captain.
If you grossed 200k dollars for 430hrs then you've done rather well.
The average BA Captain is on 830-860hrs a year so following that logic, he should you be earning around 400k dollars. We most certainly are not in that league.
Same for the Southwest chap, fairly competitive.
DEP BA around £3500 net, which is roughly the industry average in the UK.
If you grossed 200k dollars for 430hrs then you've done rather well.
The average BA Captain is on 830-860hrs a year so following that logic, he should you be earning around 400k dollars. We most certainly are not in that league.
Same for the Southwest chap, fairly competitive.
DEP BA around £3500 net, which is roughly the industry average in the UK.
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All currencies were converted from various (USD,CAD,EUR,etc) to GBP to match the original post and for ease of comparison.
SK76 TRE, Africa (type isn't relevant)
GBP 4200 -ish
400-500 hr/year over the last 10, several types in that time. Averaged about 5 months/annum in my own bed.
...after tax/pension/benefits etc. I currently receive no per diem (and I will never consider these part of the pay packet, that's how one gets talked into taking less pay)
I added the quotes as they have reinforced my happiness with flying Sikorsky/Eurocopter products vice Airbus/Boeing.
...worked for an operator like that. We all posted our deals on the notice board in the crew room. The boss nearly exploded, but thought better.
In many cases you aren't paid to fly. You are paid to be available and prepared to fly when the client needs it. It is a subtle but important difference when calculating the real work involved in the job.
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Last but not least, everyone should remember what it took to get to this point. In 1990 I was making GBP 650 gross (not much tax on that) but steadily climbing. I made a career change and in 1999 it was a wopping GBP 1000 gross again. All flying
It is a long road to hoe and if one is considering it, remember the cost for the family and yourself to get to one of the positions you read about here.
Virgin Captain (aircraft is irrelevent), 2nd year of command. Gross pay £8400. Net (after £1300 pension contributions, £2200 tax and £300 NI) £4600. Add to that around £600-£700 in allowances spent downroute. Add to the gross figure around £1300 company pension contribution, plus health insurance (both acute and critical illness) and loss-of-licence insurance.
Qatar Airways 5 year A330 Captain:
15,300 USD
Including Housing allowance, flight pay, per diems, loss of licence and medical insurance. 85Hrs per month on average. No Tax. No Pension. 12 salaries a year. This after our latest pay increase effective April 1st.
15,300 USD
Including Housing allowance, flight pay, per diems, loss of licence and medical insurance. 85Hrs per month on average. No Tax. No Pension. 12 salaries a year. This after our latest pay increase effective April 1st.
SK76 TRE, Africa (type isn't relevant)
GBP 4200 -ish
400-500 hr/year over the last 10, several types in that time. Averaged about 5 months/annum in my own bed.
...after tax/pension/benefits etc. I currently receive no per diem (and I will never consider these part of the pay packet, that's how one gets talked into taking less pay)
I added the quotes as they have reinforced my happiness with flying Sikorsky/Eurocopter products vice Airbus/Boeing.
Wingswinger,
One of my friends works at a bank were it is a dismissible offence to discuss wages.
Talk about keeping the common peasants in their place.
I think open discussion about who gets what and why can only help give us an idea of how badly (or well) off we are.
FIS.
One of my friends works at a bank were it is a dismissible offence to discuss wages.
Talk about keeping the common peasants in their place.
I think open discussion about who gets what and why can only help give us an idea of how badly (or well) off we are.
FIS.
have you noticed the wide disparity of annual hours flown vs total pay?
As low as 250 hrs per yr up to 1200
Anyone good at graphs can show hours against pay for the sample? Might make interesting reading for those bumping up to max hours.
At 250 hours a year I could do a window cleaning round too and really make money
As low as 250 hrs per yr up to 1200
Anyone good at graphs can show hours against pay for the sample? Might make interesting reading for those bumping up to max hours.
At 250 hours a year I could do a window cleaning round too and really make money
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Last but not least, everyone should remember what it took to get to this point. In 1990 I was making GBP 650 gross (not much tax on that) but steadily climbing. I made a career change and in 1999 it was a wopping GBP 1000 gross again. All flying
It is a long road to hoe and if one is considering it, remember the cost for the family and yourself to get to one of the positions you read about here.
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Flybe Turboprop scales
BombardQ40Qier Q400 Captain
Q 400 Captain Paypoint
FY08/09
0
53500
1
54246
2
54991
3
55736
4
56481
5
57227
6
57972
7
58718
8
59462
9
60208
10
60953
11
61699
12
62443
13
63189
14
63934
15
64680
16
64680
17
64680
Bombardier Q400 First Officer
Q400 F/O Paypoint
FY08/09
0
25068
1
27950
2
29677
3
31405
4
31977
5
32549
6
33121
7
33693
8
34266
9
34838
10
35410
11
35982
12
36554
13
37127
14
37699
15
38271
16
38271
17
38271
+ £1.90 /hr Flight duty pay = £3000 - £3500
Turboprop TRI/TRE on Jet Salary + 16% advertised as a £90k package including pension contributions etc + flight pay
Turboprop line trainers on Jet Salary + 10% + flight pay
MMMMM! - that didn't paste too well!
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Lear45 & CL604 - 605 FO Corporate Charter
salary
$3350 net per month FO year 1
$4700 net per month Capt year 1
+ up to 4% of gross pay in matched retirement savings (not pension, we don't have one)
away from home about 8 days per month, usually work a total of about 10 days per month.
Great company, fun flying, lots of time off (without taking vacation), great medical dental
Good schedule, and great people....
salary
$3350 net per month FO year 1
$4700 net per month Capt year 1
+ up to 4% of gross pay in matched retirement savings (not pension, we don't have one)
away from home about 8 days per month, usually work a total of about 10 days per month.
Great company, fun flying, lots of time off (without taking vacation), great medical dental
Good schedule, and great people....
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Working for Italian company on B737, this month $17000US, average for the summer. Plus 13 days off/month.........but must pay for own hotac. E-mail from wife says she is cutting my pocket money though!
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captain on Air France, A320 family, TRI, flying for AF since 92 , captain since 2001
i take home 10000 euros a month, ALL taxes paid.
48 days vacation per year
750 flight hours a year
you can add 20% when graduating to long haul flights
i take home 10000 euros a month, ALL taxes paid.
48 days vacation per year
750 flight hours a year
you can add 20% when graduating to long haul flights
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Easyjet SFO/UK Based
After 8% contribution to my pension (added to the 7% of the company's) and 200£ paid towards share schemes I take home on a good month between 2,900£ and 3,100£. It used to be better when the pound was stronger to the euro!
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737zaf,
Which scheme did you enter easyjet on? TRSS, Cadet or DEP. I would have thought a DEP SFO would get a bit more than that but I guess without the pension and share schemes you would have quite a bit more.
Im also an ezy UK based SFO and take home something between £3300 and £3500 usually. That is without the pension and share contributions though. And max hours!
Which scheme did you enter easyjet on? TRSS, Cadet or DEP. I would have thought a DEP SFO would get a bit more than that but I guess without the pension and share schemes you would have quite a bit more.
Im also an ezy UK based SFO and take home something between £3300 and £3500 usually. That is without the pension and share contributions though. And max hours!
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National Aviation Authority Inspector (E Europe)
560 GBP take home + first class health care and excellent subsistence when away. Total must come to more than an FR line training cadet
Add to this work as a freelance examiner (60 GBP per hour take home), consultant (50GBP per hour take home), instructor (40 GBP per hour take home) and lecturer (20 GBP per hour take home).
Total monthly earnings up to 2500 GBP plus benefits.
560 GBP take home + first class health care and excellent subsistence when away. Total must come to more than an FR line training cadet
Add to this work as a freelance examiner (60 GBP per hour take home), consultant (50GBP per hour take home), instructor (40 GBP per hour take home) and lecturer (20 GBP per hour take home).
Total monthly earnings up to 2500 GBP plus benefits.
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EMIRATES TRI/CAPT
APP 62000 dhs per month 14200 of that is housing allowance paying off the mortgage.. based on 75 hours flying with flight pay..
app 17000USD/month or 8600 GBP per month in my pay packet..
Any overtime above 78 block hours xtra 525 dhs per hour.. can earn xtra 500 GBP or 900USD per month..
not too bad but inflation here is a real kick in the guts..
APP 62000 dhs per month 14200 of that is housing allowance paying off the mortgage.. based on 75 hours flying with flight pay..
app 17000USD/month or 8600 GBP per month in my pay packet..
Any overtime above 78 block hours xtra 525 dhs per hour.. can earn xtra 500 GBP or 900USD per month..
not too bad but inflation here is a real kick in the guts..
68 year old offshore Eurocopter 332L captain in China.
£8,900 equiv/month net. 650hrs/annum, two months leave, no travel, no benefits apart from accident insurance and licence renewal.
(plus three pensions)
£8,900 equiv/month net. 650hrs/annum, two months leave, no travel, no benefits apart from accident insurance and licence renewal.
(plus three pensions)